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Post by psychokiller on Sept 7, 2013 22:09:45 GMT -5
This is a new edition of Keep 5, Fire 5 that I usually do once or twice a year. I'm always interested to see who everyone would keep & who you would fire.
If you had to sign five of them to 5 year deals, and the five you fire can't return until 5 years later, who would you keep & who would you get rid of?
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Post by psychokiller on Sept 7, 2013 22:35:44 GMT -5
I'd keep Randy Orton, Wade Barrett, Sheamus, Dolph Ziggler, & Antonio Cesaro
I like Fandango, but I just don't see him staying fresh long term. Big E is decent, but the 5 I chose to keep are just more valuable to have around. Bray Wyatt's gimmick is good, but he's terrible in the ring in my opinion. He can only go so far with mediocre in ring talent. Ryback is awful to me, so I'd have no problem with him being off my TV for good. The Miz is terrible as a face, & his character is very stale. I'd rather see the 5 I chose to stay in the company over him.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Sept 7, 2013 22:37:20 GMT -5
From least useless to most useless:
Sheamus: Already a big star, with plenty still to contribute. Randy Orton: In spite of his failed drug tests and not infrequent injuries, an even bigger star, with plenty still to contribute provided he keeps his shit together. Bray Wyatt: Phenomenal on the mic, the most exciting new debut in years. Fandango: Great gimmick, solid all-around performer, already has a crowd-pleasing meme attached to him. Ryback: As badly as he's fallen off, he got massively over once, and he's still young enough that with the right push, I can see him doing it again. Big E. Langston: Has lots of potential. Sucks that he just barely didn't make the cut for the five to keep, but the others are closer to sure things, while Big E. could be a hit or could fizzle out. Dolph Ziggler: He's talented in the ring... like a lot of other guys. He's a big hit with the fans obsessed with treating pro wrestling like serious business... like a lot of other guys. In other words, he's pretty superfluous. The Miz: Does he still have any mainstream recognition left over from his reality TV days? Other than that and his skill at making promotional appearances, he doesn't have much going for him anymore. Antonio Cesaro: Got a big push, failed to get over, floundering in the midcard. Puts on good matches. Replacable. Wade Barrett: Got a big push, failed to get over, floundering in the midcard. Mediocre overall. Replacable.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Sept 7, 2013 22:40:46 GMT -5
I'd keep Cesaro, Big E., Dolph, Fandango, and Barrett. I was torn between Bray Wyatt and Wade, but all Wyatt's got are cool promos. He's not really adding anything to the show for me. Granted, if I were making this decision based on business and not my own personal tastes, then I'd have to cut Cesaro and Barrett in order to keep Orton and Sheamus.
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Post by psychokiller on Sept 7, 2013 22:44:56 GMT -5
From least useless to most useless: Sheamus: Already a big star, with plenty still to contribute. Randy Orton: In spite of his failed drug tests and not infrequent injuries, an even bigger star, with plenty still to contribute provided he keeps his shit together. Bray Wyatt: Phenomenal on the mic, the most exciting new debut in years. Fandango: Great gimmick, solid all-around performer, already has a crowd-pleasing meme attached to him. Ryback: As badly as he's fallen off, he got massively over once, and he's still young enough that with the right push, I can see him doing it again. Big E. Langston: Has lots of potential. Sucks that he just barely didn't make the cut for the five to keep, but the others are closer to sure things, while Big E. could be a hit or could fizzle out. Dolph Ziggler: He's talented in the ring... like a lot of other guys. He's a big hit with the fans obsessed with treating pro wrestling like serious business... like a lot of other guys. In other words, he's pretty superfluous. The Miz: Does he still have any mainstream recognition left over from his reality TV days? Other than that and his skill at making promotional appearances, he doesn't have much going for him anymore. Antonio Cesaro: Got a big push, failed to get over, floundering in the midcard. Puts on good matches. Replacable. Wade Barrett: Got a big push, failed to get over, floundering in the midcard. Mediocre overall. Replacable. I disagree completely about Wade Barrett. When he was with Nexus he was extremely over as a heel. The problem with Barrett is right after he lost to Cena at the TLC PPV in 2010, he was booked like complete garbage since. I don't understand why they book him like crap, when he's good on the mic, can wrestle, and is a legit bad ass.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 7, 2013 22:55:50 GMT -5
I'd keep Cesaro, Fandango, Bray Wyatt, Ziggler, and Barrett. They all have potential to be huge
While I am fond of the Miz, he's not needed in a full time capacity. He's loyal enough to the WWE that he won't go to TNA to scratch his wrestling itch (and his pseudo celebrity status means he doesn't have to), and I can bring him back for one-offs such as "special episodes" or as a surprise entrant for the Royal Rumble any time I want. Big E is an entertaining personality, but hasn't shown me enough as to keep him. Randy Orton - He's had his time, it's time to see if others can step up Sheamus - I don't think he's as bad as he's made out to, but there's nothing about him that makes me want to keep him. Ryback
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Post by Error on Sept 7, 2013 22:56:02 GMT -5
First 4 to keep were easy: Cesaro - Amazing in the ring and that can always be used. Plus I think they can still turn him loose in the ring and have a pretty over face. Langston - Future World Champ right here. He's got it all. Wyatt - He's entertaining and can they have yet to scratch the surface. Ziggler - He can stay over no matter what they do to him.
Number 5 was the tough one but I went with: Orton- Still think he is one of the top 5 guys in WWE in every category. As for the rest: 6. Sheamus - It was between him and Orton and I went with Orton since he's currently healthy. 7. Ryback - He might be delivering but I think as a special guy he's done for so that put him lower on the list. 8. Fandango - I think boat sailed when he got concussed. 9. Miz - Time has come and gone which is sad.
First to fire was easy as well: Wade Barrett: Nothing about him is special. He's an accent and that is it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2013 22:59:26 GMT -5
I'd keep The Miz, Wade Barrett, Dolph Ziggler, Big E Langston, and Sheamus. I'm sort of hesitant to let Fandango and Bray Wyatt go, but the former seems to have hit his peak already and the latter while I like the guy I don't at all care for his gimmick or what he's doing, so...
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Post by celticjobber on Sept 7, 2013 23:08:46 GMT -5
I'd keep Antonio Cesaro, Big E Langston, Bray Wyatt, Dolph Ziggler, and Randy Orton.
I don't really like or see much potential in the other five guys.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 7, 2013 23:31:43 GMT -5
Keep
Bray, Wade, Cessaro, Fandango and Ryback.
Fire
Miz, Sheamus, Orton, Ziggler and Big E
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 7, 2013 23:45:18 GMT -5
I went with:
Orton Cesaro Barrett Langston Ziggler
Hated not picking Wyatt, but I felt stronger about those five.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2013 23:51:19 GMT -5
Antonio Cesaro, Bray Wyatt, Dolph Ziggler, Randy Orton and Wade Barrett.
Disappointed to leave out Fandango and Big E but I just feel the others have more value.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 7, 2013 23:54:09 GMT -5
Cesaro/Wyatt/Dolph/Barrett are all personal favorites of mine I can't do without, that last choices was hard though. I like Big E has a lot of potential, I feel stupid releasing a guy like Randy Orton though. I went with Orton in the end.
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Post by RIHT on Sept 7, 2013 23:54:10 GMT -5
Orton, Cesaro, Big E, Dolph, and Wyatt. Miz is boring, Sheamus is boring, Barrett is booked to be boring, Fandango is booked to be boring, and Ryback is booked to be boring.
If they booked Cesaro to have a karaoke gimmick while building up Miz to perfection as a huge star, one could choose Miz over Cesaro. Booking is what makes the difference, and that's WWE's fault.
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Post by Instant Classic on Sept 8, 2013 0:08:28 GMT -5
Keep Cesaro, Barrett, Ziggler, Wyatt, and Orton
It was between Barrett and Sheamus but I had to go with Barrett.
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Post by stealthamo on Sept 8, 2013 0:16:37 GMT -5
Keep: Cesaro, Big E, Bray, Dolph, Sheamus
Fire: Fandango, Orton, Ryback, Miz, Barrett
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Post by Clueless Steve on Sept 8, 2013 0:28:43 GMT -5
Keep: Barrett, Cesaro, Ziggler, Wyatt, and Fandango. Fire: Curtis Axel 5 times.
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Post by Totorob101 on Sept 8, 2013 3:41:06 GMT -5
Fire
Sheamus Orton Miz Ryback Fandango
Keep
The Rest
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Post by CM Parish on Sept 8, 2013 3:50:48 GMT -5
I went with Orton, Wyatt, Cesaro and Ziggler.
Had a hard time picking between the two Big Guys as I like them both, but in the end went with Ryback purely because he hadn't had as many votes as Big E.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Sept 8, 2013 5:06:13 GMT -5
Ziggler, Cesaro, Langston, Barrett and Orton. Fandango just missed the cut.
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