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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 8, 2013 18:59:18 GMT -5
AJ Styles is a good hand, and wrestling needs those to make stars of tomorrow. They brought in Harley Race in his 50's in '86, and no one batted an eye. Finlay, also 50ish, was putting on great matches in 2006. These types of guys (and AJ is only 36) are NEEDED in the business to work with and groom tomorrow's talent. That's their role.
AJ will never be WWE Champion, but to say he has no place in today's WWE is the epitome of not understanding pro wrestling, its history, and how it's always worked. AJ would be an amazing road teacher.
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Post by Reflecto on Sept 8, 2013 19:14:57 GMT -5
You can't consider the "he'd have to go to NXT" fact for Styles as well, without also considering that even if Styles is 36, if he debuted on NXT tomorrow, he'd immediately be the most over man on the show [just like how most of the other big indy standouts were immediately insanely over on NXT- and none of them were as recognizable stars on a national scale as Styles is right now]. Combined with his talent, he would be a very quick WWE debut just due to those two things alone.
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Post by Doctor Of Style on Sept 8, 2013 19:17:33 GMT -5
AJ Styles is a good hand, and wrestling needs those to make stars of tomorrow. They brought in Harley Race in his 50's in '86, and no one batted an eye. Finlay, also 50ish, was putting on great matches in 2006. These types of guys (and AJ is only 36) are NEEDED in the business to work with and groom tomorrow's talent. That's their role. AJ will never be WWE Champion, but to say he has no place in today's WWE is the epitome of not understanding pro wrestling, its history, and how it's always worked. AJ would be an amazing road teacher. I think they'd give him a spot like they gave Dean Malenko. A decent run in the midcard, eventually transitioning to road agent.
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 8, 2013 19:24:52 GMT -5
You can't consider the "he'd have to go to NXT" fact for Styles as well, without also considering that even if Styles is 36, if he debuted on NXT tomorrow, he'd immediately be the most over man on the show [just like how most of the other big indy standouts were immediately insanely over on NXT- and none of them were as recognizable stars on a national scale as Styles is right now]. Combined with his talent, he would be a very quick WWE debut just due to those two things alone. Sure you could. HHH in a recent interview indicated that everyone needs to go through developmental, so it's a given that he would to, since he's not Sting and hasn't been with the WWE before. Whether he'll spend a lot of time there is questionable (I think it'd be long enough for them to figure out what to do with him), but he'd at least be stopping in. Whether his indy status will truly translate to instant stardom in the WWE is a much bigger question, because TNA isn't nearly on the level WCW was when it was true for the latter (nor are the TV fans nearly as vocal).
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Post by Reflecto on Sept 8, 2013 19:37:53 GMT -5
You can't consider the "he'd have to go to NXT" fact for Styles as well, without also considering that even if Styles is 36, if he debuted on NXT tomorrow, he'd immediately be the most over man on the show [just like how most of the other big indy standouts were immediately insanely over on NXT- and none of them were as recognizable stars on a national scale as Styles is right now]. Combined with his talent, he would be a very quick WWE debut just due to those two things alone. Sure you could. HHH in a recent interview indicated that everyone needs to go through developmental, so it's a given that he would to, since he's not Sting and hasn't been with the WWE before. Whether he'll spend a lot of time there is questionable (I think it'd be long enough for them to figure out what to do with him), but he'd at least be stopping in. Whether his indy status will truly translate to instant stardom in the WWE is a much bigger question, because TNA isn't nearly on the level WCW was when it was true for the latter (nor are the TV fans nearly as vocal). Not my point. Of course he "would" have to go through developmental- I'm not saying that he wouldn't. What I AM saying is: We already know that a lot of the big indy standouts who made it to NXT [Zayn, Neville, Ohno, ARGUABLY Harper (granted, he was over more because he was part of the Wyatt Family and not because of his own talents) and Paige/Emma/Bayley for the female standouts] tend to immediately become some of the most over wrestlers on NXT, and it transfers to them instantly becoming the hottest prospects on the show, which transfers to them becoming high on the list of "next to be promoted to Raw/Smackdown." Styles is coming into WWE as a more well-known star than all six of those wrestlers were, which stands to reason he'd instantly be insanely over on NXT when he does appear there- which further stands that in all likeliness, Styles would probably get on the fast-track from the moment he makes his NXT debut.
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 8, 2013 19:49:54 GMT -5
Sure you could. HHH in a recent interview indicated that everyone needs to go through developmental, so it's a given that he would to, since he's not Sting and hasn't been with the WWE before. Whether he'll spend a lot of time there is questionable (I think it'd be long enough for them to figure out what to do with him), but he'd at least be stopping in. Whether his indy status will truly translate to instant stardom in the WWE is a much bigger question, because TNA isn't nearly on the level WCW was when it was true for the latter (nor are the TV fans nearly as vocal). Not my point. Of course he "would" have to go through developmental- I'm not saying that he wouldn't. What I AM saying is: We already know that a lot of the big indy standouts who made it to NXT [Zayn, Neville, Ohno, ARGUABLY Harper (granted, he was over more because he was part of the Wyatt Family and not because of his own talents) and Paige/Emma/Bayley for the female standouts] tend to immediately become some of the most over wrestlers on NXT, and it transfers to them instantly becoming the hottest prospects on the show, which transfers to them becoming high on the list of "next to be promoted to Raw/Smackdown." Styles is coming into WWE as a more well-known star than all six of those wrestlers were, which stands to reason he'd instantly be insanely over on NXT when he does appear there- which further stands that in all likeliness, Styles would probably get on the fast-track from the moment he makes his NXT debut. WEll, you said that we couldn't take "He'd have to go to NXT" as fact, I was simply saying it was something we should be able to take as fact. This is particularly true when you consider the track record of people who completely skipped the developmental process (and I'd consider original NXT as a graduated developmental system) has been poor. Whether he'd spend a lot of time there is a different question entirely, and I'd agree that I think he'd spend less time than the average new hire. But I don't think anyone who hasn't worked for WWE before except for Sting would completely skip the process now. And as good as AJ is, he's still not Sting.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Sept 8, 2013 20:19:45 GMT -5
Why would they have to start at ground zero with AJ? It's not like WWE and Impact have no crossover audience. I'm sure most wrestling fans watch both. Look at community creations on the games and AJ is one of the most downloaded. Guys used to be able to keep their name. It would be the only way for it to work. Put him into the upper midcard right away, like they did with Jericho. Imagine the matches AJ could have with Punk, Bryan and Ziggler? And anyone that thinks he's too old, look at Christopher Daniels. Well into his 40s and still doing amazing work.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 8, 2013 21:09:56 GMT -5
Batista was like 36 when he won the WHC. And left the company at the ripe age of 41. I would mark out really hard if AJ Styles went to the WWE and even the most casual of fans I know know who he is. Like as someone said debut him in a smark city and he will get over for life in the wwe Batista also was the most over guy on the roster in 2005. He debuted in 2002. Won the tag titles. He got so over he was getting pops for beating Jericho, Benoit, shelton, and Edge. Booking a guy Batista is a differrent from booking Styles. Styles would be used as a jobber. Which is where he would be in wwe. I wouldn't put him over any main guy. I doubt he would have much fan fare. Most people associate tna with being shit.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 9, 2013 0:32:16 GMT -5
I wouldn't even put him in NXT. If he needs to get up to speed on this mythical "WWE style" that is apparently such a challenge for new signings to master, he can do it behind closed doors, before he debuts.
I addressed all the other parts of it
He doesn't need to be built up in terms of wrestling ability. He could easily adapt. WWE is not that much different to TNA in terms of actual wrestling. A suplex in TNA is a suplex in WWE.
Of course there would be. So....use a different booking style. Not rocket science.
I wasn't defending Del Rio's push, but rather saying that age 36 is no limit. Yes, he was younger than Styles, but Styles won't need years of development. They can get him over quickly.
A few years? They can get 5-7 years out of AJ Styles. He's in pretty good shape. As for young guys, they can bring them in too. There's no reason why bringing in AJ Styles would somehow prevent them from making other stars too. They can have more than one.
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Post by thegame415 on Sept 9, 2013 2:22:59 GMT -5
I'd love to see Karma return as AJ's partner/ bodyguard. Have AJ abuse the partnership to build up to an AJ/Karma match at WM.
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Post by sportatorium on Sept 9, 2013 13:58:09 GMT -5
I'm not personally dying to see AJ Styles in WWE, but there isn't much downside. He can be in developmental for a short time. He can come up as a face or heel, preferably heel w/someone to talk for him. He's too good for TNA, & is someone who will put people over & make them look good.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Sept 9, 2013 15:13:42 GMT -5
Does AJ Styles' age matter that much? Batista was much older than the standard starting age, and he turned out great for them.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 9, 2013 15:21:34 GMT -5
Batista started at 33 and main evented at 36
DDP, Finlay, and Boogeyman are the guys who got late starts in wwe
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