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Post by kamotengkahoy on Sept 8, 2013 6:37:23 GMT -5
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Post by Cronant on Sept 8, 2013 6:42:54 GMT -5
If nothing else, Vince is all about strong faces. It must hurt.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 7:18:50 GMT -5
So I take it he doesn't watch WWE much, because this feud blows.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 8, 2013 7:30:25 GMT -5
So much wrong with WWE logic on AJ Styles. 36 years old is nothing. You don't need to start from scratch with a guy with his experience. They wasted a lot of time with Punk and Bryan before they realised they were worth pushing. Del Rio is 36, Sheamus is 35, RVD is 42. None of their NXT people are ready-made stars. They'll all need significant pushes to get them over.
It NEVER looks good to have large groups of wrestlers standing together looking scared. That's what killed "the Alliance". They looked like jabronis when Austin would be standing in front of them bullying them. This angle does not need to include everyone. It should be about a core group of wrestlers. People like Tensai and Brodus shouldn't even be on the Corporation's radar, let alone being worried about speaking out or helping Daniel Bryan
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 8:03:53 GMT -5
They are right on AJ Styles. His ship has sailed a couple years ago and now WWE has plenty of NXT guys who are younger than him and possess at least the same ability, if not being even better than good old Mr. Styles.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 8, 2013 8:15:25 GMT -5
His ship is the same age or younger than guys they are pushing now. Potential NXT stars (who really don't have the same ability at all, and certainly don't have the experience of AJ Styles for the most part) can join too. Plenty of space on the roster for them and AJ Styles, if WWE so desired.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Sept 8, 2013 8:16:02 GMT -5
They don't really need AJ when they have people like Adrian Neville who can do what he does, but better and are younger.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 8, 2013 8:17:09 GMT -5
They don't really need AJ when they have people like Adrian Neville who can do what he does, but better and are younger. They could have both. They need all the quality they can get.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 8:20:08 GMT -5
His ship is the same age or younger than guys they are pushing now. Potential NXT stars (who really don't have the same ability at all, and certainly don't have the experience of AJ Styles) can join too. Plenty of space on the roster for them and AJ Styles, if WWE so desired. How will his ship do after a year on NXT? And when he debuts from zero on WWE TV at the age of 37? People that are pushed atm have already been on WWE TV for years.
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 8, 2013 8:28:12 GMT -5
So much wrong with WWE logic on AJ Styles. 36 years old is nothing. You don't need to start from scratch with a guy with his experience. They wasted a lot of time with Punk and Bryan before they realised they were worth pushing. Del Rio is 36, Sheamus is 35, RVD is 42. None of their NXT people are ready-made stars. They'll all need significant pushes to get them over. I think you sort of missed the point in focusing solely on age and ignoring every other part of it. RVD has a decade of being over and is not brand new to the WWE audience. Yes, he's 41, but he doesn't have to be built from the ground up. AJ would be. Sheamus was in his early 30's when he was first called up. He's also a hoss, so there's a core difference in how they would be booked. Del Rio's push hasn't exactly set the world on fire has it? I'm a fan of the guy and even I realize he's been a flop. Almost no one cares about him, and he was also younger than AJ Styles when he entered. TNA's tv audience is small compared to WWE's. They would have to build him for their audience, and doing that for someone who might have only a few years left in their prime just isn't worth it when they have a lot of young guys they could do that same thing for and get more years out of. Cherry picking guys who are older now than AJ is, but weren't when they debuted doesn't really prove anything.
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Post by Cronant on Sept 8, 2013 9:14:22 GMT -5
I do kinda want to see what they'd rename with, you know, with that big AJ tat an all.
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Post by CubsFan71 on Sept 8, 2013 9:20:28 GMT -5
They are right on AJ Styles. His ship has sailed a couple years ago and now WWE has plenty of NXT guys who are younger than him and possess at least the same ability, if not being even better than good old Mr. Styles. I'd have to disagree with that. Yeah he's 36, but watching his matches, its obvious that not only can the guy still go, but, he can still easily keep up with the younger guys in TNA. I think AJ Styles would be a great addition to the roster. Unfortunately I see a name change if it happens. No way is Vince going to allow two AJs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 9:33:42 GMT -5
They are right on AJ Styles. His ship has sailed a couple years ago and now WWE has plenty of NXT guys who are younger than him and possess at least the same ability, if not being even better than good old Mr. Styles. I'd have to disagree with that. Yeah he's 36, but watching his matches, its obvious that not only can the guy still go, but, he can still easily keep up with the younger guys in TNA. I think AJ Styles would be a great addition to the roster. Unfortunately I see a name change if it happens. No way is Vince going to allow two AJs. He might be able to keep up with younger guys but why focus on a guy who's old and can't speak to save his life when you got NXT wrestlers who are as good if not better and are all 7-10 years younger. When you have to allocate pushes what's the benefit giving it to a guy like AJ and have him for a couple years when there's so much untapped potential with guys like Zayn, Neville, Woods, Grey, Graves, etc.? AJ Styles is not better than any of those guys, he's your indy guy from mid 00's who can wrestle and can't cut a promo. Even if some of NXT guys end up as busts at least they have time to work on their weaknesses while AJ Styles is what you see now, that's what you get.
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Post by Waffel113 on Sept 8, 2013 9:36:47 GMT -5
I do kinda want to see what they'd rename with, you know, with that big AJ tat an all. They'd probably just call him Allen Jones, his birth name.
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Post by CubsFan71 on Sept 8, 2013 9:40:54 GMT -5
I'd have to disagree with that. Yeah he's 36, but watching his matches, its obvious that not only can the guy still go, but, he can still easily keep up with the younger guys in TNA. I think AJ Styles would be a great addition to the roster. Unfortunately I see a name change if it happens. No way is Vince going to allow two AJs. He might be able to keep up with younger guys but why focus on a guy who's old and can't speak to save his life when you got NXT wrestlers who are as good if not better and are all 7-10 years younger. When you have to allocate pushes what's the benefit giving it to a guy like AJ and have him for a couple years when there's so much untapped potential with guys like Zayn, Neville, Woods, Grey, Graves, etc.? AJ Styles is not better than any of those guys, he's your indy guy from mid 00's who can wrestle and can't cut a promo. Even if some of NXT guys end up as busts at least they have time to work on their weaknesses while AJ Styles is what you see now, that's what you get. I agree he can't cut a promo for shit. Easy solution: Make him a Paul Heyman guy. Paul can be his mouthpiece and, unlike McGilligoof, AJ has the talent to back up what Heyman says
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 8, 2013 9:42:37 GMT -5
I don't see AJ going because while not WWE level. He far to established to start over with a name change. At less in wrestling standards. AJ already been on National world wide TV and PPV. While not close to Main Stream but in wrestling to many people know who AJ is.
The thing about ability. The guy been doing PPVs since 2002 and was on some kind of TV since then. What NXT going to do for him? Nothing. Yes he is 36 because he still wrestle the same style and because he worked a lighter then the WWE schedule and injury wise hasn't suffered a major injury. There is no reason. The turn away would be for AJ to change him name and get re established under that new name. Which no promise of a ME push like he gets in TNA.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 9:42:49 GMT -5
He might be able to keep up with younger guys but why focus on a guy who's old and can't speak to save his life when you got NXT wrestlers who are as good if not better and are all 7-10 years younger. When you have to allocate pushes what's the benefit giving it to a guy like AJ and have him for a couple years when there's so much untapped potential with guys like Zayn, Neville, Woods, Grey, Graves, etc.? AJ Styles is not better than any of those guys, he's your indy guy from mid 00's who can wrestle and can't cut a promo. Even if some of NXT guys end up as busts at least they have time to work on their weaknesses while AJ Styles is what you see now, that's what you get. I agree he can't cut a promo for shit. Easy solution: Make him a Paul Heyman guy. Paul can be his mouthpiece and, unlike McGilligoof, AJ has the talent to back up what Heyman says Anyone's better than McHennigcutty.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 8, 2013 9:51:22 GMT -5
they really don't need AJ. I'm sure he's an asset they could make use of, but it's not like bringing him in is going to usher a new boom period, especially when they already have lots of talented guys they aren't using right already.
as for the Vince thing, i hope that's true because if this otherwise great angle has one major failing it's making the roster stand around with their thumbs up their ass going "WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING!... should we do something?"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 9:51:41 GMT -5
I don't think Styles would take that much build-up to make him a big deal. Just go the Punk route, run some vignettes hyping him up and then debut him in a smarky town where he'll undoubtedly get a huge pop, then he'd probably immediately have some momentum behind him that they could build off of. I wouldn't have any trouble buying him diving straight into the US / Intercontinental scene and while he'd likely not be ready to go straight after the WWE title or anything he'd probably be established enough to go for the World one within a few months.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 9:51:43 GMT -5
They are right on AJ Styles. His ship has sailed a couple years ago and now WWE has plenty of NXT guys who are younger than him and possess at least the same ability, if not being even better than good old Mr. Styles. As far as sheer talent, not many from NXT are on AJ's level. Sami Zayn, Neville, maybe Ohno. AJ is 6-8 years older than those guys though. I think it's more that WWE doesn't see much potential in him as a character, and with his age/experience he's probably not into the Developmental thing and would want more money than that. They also might see what they perceive as "flaws" in his wrestling style they'd have to iron out. Probably a similar case with Austin Aries.
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