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Post by J is Justice on Sept 8, 2013 15:31:26 GMT -5
Just like the Bret Hart thread, let's see if we can make a list of the top 10 worst Shawn Michaels matches.
1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10.
One that comes to mind - not really a bad match, but more like completely average (mostly dissapointing) - is his SummerSlam match with Perfect.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Sept 8, 2013 15:56:09 GMT -5
Also, his match with Hogan where he purposely oversold like crazy. I mean it's funny, but showed that deep down Shawn can still be an unprofessional dick. Also, I'm sure some of his early AWA matches would qualify. Michaels is naturally gifted so even early on he was pretty good, but not the quality we would later get from Shawn.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 8, 2013 15:58:02 GMT -5
Do we call when he drop the European title to HHH a match? Another one that was just ok was in 96 he faced Yokozuna when he was way obese at this point. It was some weird one night only Cornette managed him after he turned face.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 8, 2013 16:19:44 GMT -5
Two of his Summerslam matches, 1996 with Vader and 2005 with Hulk Hogan, the petulance shown in both are why I'll never consider him one of the greatest of all time. There is always some excuse for his behavior or as to why he couldn't put someone over but at the end of the day, a great worker goes out there and gives the best possible match and program he can give on the big stage, but Shawn chose to act like s spoiled child instead.
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Post by TGM on Sept 8, 2013 16:48:09 GMT -5
Tatanka at Wrestlemania 9. Slow, plodding and finished with a lame DQ or count out.
I just went through Michaels wikipedia page and had such a hard time finding him in anything bad.
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Post by Larryhausen on Sept 8, 2013 17:26:13 GMT -5
The Hogan match is in my top 10 Best HBK matches.
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Post by thegame415 on Sept 8, 2013 18:00:10 GMT -5
Vs Diesel at WM 11
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Post by DoubleDare on Sept 8, 2013 18:55:05 GMT -5
vs jim duggan raw 93.
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Post by Joshie el Gato Rey on Sept 8, 2013 19:12:15 GMT -5
Vs Batista in 2008, Lumberjack match on Raw. I remember Shawn was off really bad that night. Dave was having to do the working it seemed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 19:30:36 GMT -5
Two of his Summerslam matches, 1996 with Vader and 2005 with Hulk Hogan, the petulance shown in both are why I'll never consider him one of the greatest of all time. There is always some excuse for his behavior or as to why he couldn't put someone over but at the end of the day, a great worker goes out there and gives the best possible match and program he can give on the big stage, but Shawn chose to act like s spoiled child instead. Wait, we're talking about the Hogan/Michaels feud and Shawn is the one who wouldn't put someone over/was acting like a child?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 19:39:39 GMT -5
I'm not gonna lie, I LOVE that Hogan match at Summerslam. Hogan is basically Captain America right? It makes sense he'd be able to throw Shawn around like a pinball. I wish MORE wrestling was sold in such an over the top way. It's a comic book man. Go big or go home.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 8, 2013 19:47:34 GMT -5
Two of his Summerslam matches, 1996 with Vader and 2005 with Hulk Hogan, the petulance shown in both are why I'll never consider him one of the greatest of all time. There is always some excuse for his behavior or as to why he couldn't put someone over but at the end of the day, a great worker goes out there and gives the best possible match and program he can give on the big stage, but Shawn chose to act like s spoiled child instead. Wait, we're talking about the Hogan/Michaels feud and Shawn is the one who wouldn't put someone over/was acting like a child? Does anyone honestly believe Shawn would have sold Hogan's offense like he did were he the one booked to come out victorious? Please. Shawn threw his toys out of the pram because he came up against someone better at the backstage games than he is.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Sept 8, 2013 19:58:37 GMT -5
Vs. Sid at the Royal Rumble '97. One of the only occurances I can think of where HBK in his prime gets a big, hyped-up major PPV match and it just winds up mediocre and forgettable.
Oh, and Hogan vs. Michaels is a classic that both men should be proud of, as much as smarks with an axe to grind against both men try to convince themselves the old school '80s heel-type selling came from backstage politicing.
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Sept 8, 2013 20:01:49 GMT -5
Yup exactly. And the whole "I found god I'm a new man" is just bullshit, it's a gimmick. Shawn matured a little after he quit being a junkie, but deep down he's just a spoiled prick. I don't buy the Bret Hart reconciliation neither I think he's totally hypocrite, but that's another subject. As far a really BAD matchs, he had very few, the SOB is gifted edit: (forgot to quote dysco inferno by the way)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 20:19:30 GMT -5
Two of his Summerslam matches, 1996 with Vader and 2005 with Hulk Hogan, the petulance shown in both are why I'll never consider him one of the greatest of all time. There is always some excuse for his behavior or as to why he couldn't put someone over but at the end of the day, a great worker goes out there and gives the best possible match and program he can give on the big stage, but Shawn chose to act like s spoiled child instead. Wait, we're talking about the Hogan/Michaels feud and Shawn is the one who wouldn't put someone over/was acting like a child? How did Hogan act like a child? Michaels tried to play politics with the master. He lost. It was Michaels that acted like a child. Hogan didn't have to job to Michaels, and Vince agreed with that, otherwise it wouldn't have happened the way it did. Michaels didn't get what he wanted and threw a hissy fit. That is the definition of unprofessional. I can't believe there are people out there that still support Shawn on that.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Sept 8, 2013 20:21:51 GMT -5
Oh, and Hogan vs. Michaels is a classic that both men should be proud of, as much as smarks with an axe to grind against both men try to convince themselves the old school '80s heel-type selling came from backstage politicing. No. Just no. Hogan is actually my favorite performer in wrestling of all time so I don't exactly fit into your generalization about smarks who dislike the match. HBK turned his selling in the match into a complete joke pure and simple. You can tell Hogan isn't amused by it several times throughout the match just by the expression on his face. Sure, there is a wide variety of different ways people can sell, but to say what HBK did in this match is comparable to the best bumpers of the 1980s is just wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 20:36:52 GMT -5
Wait, we're talking about the Hogan/Michaels feud and Shawn is the one who wouldn't put someone over/was acting like a child? How did Hogan act like a child? Michaels tried to play politics with the master. He lost. It was Michaels that acted like a child. Hogan didn't have to job to Michaels, and Vince agreed with that, otherwise it wouldn't have happened the way it did. Michaels didn't get what he wanted and threw a hissy fit. That is the definition of unprofessional. I can't believe there are people out there that still support Shawn on that. Except that Hogan went back on what was originally agreed. Hogan beats Shawn at SummerSlam, they have a rematch at Unforgiven. That didn't happen, except for the part where Hogan won of course.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 8, 2013 20:45:24 GMT -5
Wait, we're talking about the Hogan/Michaels feud and Shawn is the one who wouldn't put someone over/was acting like a child? How did Hogan act like a child? Michaels tried to play politics with the master. He lost. It was Michaels that acted like a child. Hogan didn't have to job to Michaels, and Vince agreed with that, otherwise it wouldn't have happened the way it did. Michaels didn't get what he wanted and threw a hissy fit. That is the definition of unprofessional. I can't believe there are people out there that still support Shawn on that. I recall that HBK got mad because Hogan at the last min back out of the rematch where Michaels was going to get a win over him. So HBK lost his shit and did his brat child ways. Plus Hogan wanted the "97" HBK to begin with. So that what HBK gave him. At less that what HBK tells everyone in the DVDs. As for 97 against Sid, wasn't Michaels sick during that match? But then again as big the build for that match was, did anybody really expect a 5 star classic against Sid? You can count on one hand good Sid matches.
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Post by Jiren on Sept 8, 2013 21:00:54 GMT -5
vs Mr Perfect at Summerslam 93
Given the people involved you'd expect a great match, Nope it was ASS
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Sept 8, 2013 21:43:48 GMT -5
Rockers vs. Orient Express at WM6?
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