StuntGranny®
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Sept 12, 2013 13:34:16 GMT -5
While I hate how he turned into a stooge for the WWE on Twitter, JR most likely deserved a lot better than this. It's a shame it's not Vince McMahon retiring instead.
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Post by jp49er80 on Sept 12, 2013 13:34:52 GMT -5
Good luck to him.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Sept 12, 2013 13:35:59 GMT -5
Ross was still good and he was (justifiably) upset at being benched, especially when he is still huge among the fans and the folks in the locker room.
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Post by Bootista on Sept 12, 2013 13:54:32 GMT -5
Jim Ross is not responsible for Flair being a moron and showing up crocked.
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SEAN CARLESS
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 12, 2013 14:32:15 GMT -5
For one, I don't believe the story going around that Jim Ross retired because of the 2K14 think. It was like what two, three weeks ago? I highly doubt it took this long for repercussions (if there was any). I understand people have this mindset that Vince McMahon is an evil tyrant and he hate's Jim Ross, but I highly doubt he retired because of what happened last month. If anything, his voice and commentary was becoming lackluster and he should have retired years ago. I thought he did. And, I bet you, if he retired a year from now, people would still think it had something to do with Vince McMahon. Except that's not at all what happened. He was completely entwined in the WWE developmental system, oversaw a lot in NXT, and even announced on occasion. He posted a couple of weeks ago how excited he was to be working with WWE's future and for his future WWE opportunities. Hell, he even mentioned how much he wished he was still announcing on RAW at said 2K14 presser. Even if the 2K14 thing wasn't the reason he's gone, by his very own statements, this wasn't a man winding down. That's where the speculation comes in that it wasn't amicable. And there's far more proof (years of proof) on the 'Vince is a dick' side than the naive and idiotic "He should have retired years ago" stance. He may not be as good as he was, but he's still light years ahead of anyone who's there right now.
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Lardlad
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Post by Lardlad on Sept 12, 2013 19:41:17 GMT -5
JR is going to be on the Steve Austin show again...
Steve Austin @steveaustinbsr
Talking to @jrsbbq tomorrow on the #SAS. Send your questions to questions@steveaustinshow.com. #GOAT #WWE
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fw91
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Post by fw91 on Sept 12, 2013 20:39:02 GMT -5
yeah they probably fired him, just so vince can get his jollys. Idk how he put up with it for all these years. He must have made a lot of money
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 20:40:02 GMT -5
JR is going to be on the Steve Austin show again... Steve Austin @steveaustinbsr Talking to @jrsbbq tomorrow on the #SAS. Send your questions to questions@steveaustinshow.com. #GOAT #WWE This is going to be good.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 22:42:46 GMT -5
I don't actually believe the news that he's sacked for a 2K games press conference (which I watched and it was funny/decent), truth be told, the man's over 60, has had stress his entire life, has been slow on the draw on commentary on the last few guest appearances and probably doesn't have much more to add on the product at his age. It may be true that he's forced out, but it's not like he's a mid-30s top tier on screen talent any more; he hasn't been that for years. Plus it doesn't say anything about future endeavours, and Jim Ross seems to be stubborn enough to not just accept being forced to retire. Seems to be an agreement on both sides at worst. JR's note was very cryptic. He didn't bury the WWE, nor did he denounce reports as to "why" he was retiring. And I think that's because his BBQ sauce is still available through WWE's own site. He's being careful. Them being middleman is saving him on expenses. That's a great point. I admit my bias in not appreciating his guest calls may be making me think "eh, probably just an agreed realisation of a poor show" so I'll have to consider this more. Respect to the man for being the soundtrack to some of my favourite on screen memories, will always be the most recognisable commentator in the wrestling world, and as far as his on screen character & abilities go he deserved the respect he gets from all of us.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 12, 2013 22:49:55 GMT -5
For one, I don't believe the story going around that Jim Ross retired because of the 2K14 think. It was like what two, three weeks ago? I highly doubt it took this long for repercussions (if there was any). I understand people have this mindset that Vince McMahon is an evil tyrant and he hate's Jim Ross, but I highly doubt he retired because of what happened last month. If anything, his voice and commentary was becoming lackluster and he should have retired years ago. I thought he did. And, I bet you, if he retired a year from now, people would still think it had something to do with Vince McMahon. Except that's not at all what happened. He was completely entwined in the WWE developmental system, oversaw a lot in NXT, and even announced on occasion. He posted a couple of weeks ago how excited he was to be working with WWE's future and for his future WWE opportunities. Hell, he even mentioned how much he wished he was still announcing on RAW at said 2K14 presser. Even if the 2K14 thing wasn't the reason he's gone, by his very own statements, this wasn't a man winding down. That's where the speculation comes in that it wasn't amicable. And there's far more proof (years of proof) on the 'Vince is a dick' side than the naive and idiotic "He should have retired years ago" stance. He may not be as good as he was, but he's still light years ahead of anyone who's there right now. That's fair, but as a guy that was/is in the "it was a long time coming" camp; I still think it was at least as far as on-screen is concerned. It was pretty clear his last couple years that at least as far as announcing goes, he'd lost five steps. He did great on occasional guest spots, but on a weekly basis, he'd fallen far from his zenith. I can agree though that he'd still be a valuable resource behind the scenes, and can agree on the "Vince is a dick" thing as well however.
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