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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 17:11:25 GMT -5
Or do wrestling companies like WWE need to evolve the way their stories unfold?
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Sept 13, 2013 17:15:05 GMT -5
Wrestling fans admit they're wrong?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 17:16:23 GMT -5
Wrestling fans admit they're wrong? Exactly we are never wrong MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 17:17:18 GMT -5
I don't understand why exactly wrestling fans should be expected to wait six months for something to wind up being good. It's not like people do that with other shows generally; if a show sucks for 23 straight episodes of its season, you're usually not going to hear people bitching about how people who doubt the season finale will be any good aren't giving it a fair chance or need to learn to be patient or that it'll all work out in the end.
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Post by Cry Baby on Sept 13, 2013 17:44:53 GMT -5
I think that some wrestling fans do need to admit they're impatient. With any other show, you wouldn't expect the good guy and the bad guy to face off in the second episode of the series. I've been on other boards and websites where people have complaining after one week that so-and-so hasn't gotten their comeuppance or saying why is so-and-so just putting up with this instead of just beating them down?
Storylines need to build. Fair enough in wrestling they do it a lot quicker that a normal TV series, but still. Seeing people complain about storylines not moving fast enough after a week or two and then complaining that the WWE doesn't put enough stock in angles is a bit ridiculous.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Sept 13, 2013 17:47:42 GMT -5
I don't understand why exactly wrestling fans should be expected to wait six months for something to wind up being good. It's not like people do that with other shows generally; if a show sucks for 23 straight episodes of its season, you're usually not going to hear people bitching about how people who doubt the season finale will be any good aren't giving it a fair chance or need to learn to be patient or that it'll all work out in the end. Odd, niche audiences tend to appreciate these type of things. Hence the bitching you hear about why cult shows getting cancelled when the general public "don't get it" like Arrested Development and Community.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 17:51:15 GMT -5
Only if WWE will admit that they run only a handful of angles that end with a good payoff.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 17:54:25 GMT -5
There's a difference between "needing to be patient" and "actively criticizing an evolving storyline."
If people were simply saying, "Ugh - hurry up and finish the story!" then yeah, within reason (like a story taking an unreasonably long time) they need to be patient.
But if they're criticizing the WAY the story is unfolding, the methods the writers are using, the repetitiveness of the arcs - then that's all fair game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 18:05:04 GMT -5
Is this like an AA meeting?
Hi I'm cesaro's no joe goddard, and I'm impatient.
ahhhhh feels good man
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Post by fart on Sept 13, 2013 18:05:40 GMT -5
No wrestling fans don't have to admit anything the way no one has to admit anything unless theres a trial or extreme guilt and that stuff is either individual isolated. Groups of strangers dont make announcments. Strangers dont know each other hence theyre strangers otherwise theyd be friends or enemies or neutral. And who isnt impatient anymore. The worlds impatient. Im not impatient though I tell you so I have nothing like that to say. I am patient because if the product turns me off I turn it off and try again and it might the same but sooner or later I'll dig it and get back. I try my best to take virtues seriously despite my name being fart I have a heart and feelings too. Not everyone wears the same shoe. Which is good cuz some feet are smellier than others and some have nail polish and others have corns.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 13, 2013 18:08:39 GMT -5
Yes... and yes...
Sometimes the WWE stretches things out way way too long... especially with the amount of wrestling per week.
other times the fans ARE really impatient.
For instance ... RAW the day after Money in the Bank 2011 I saw people complaining that Punk wasn't on the show... not a few people... a lot of them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 18:10:41 GMT -5
other times the fans ARE really impatient. For instance ... RAW the day after Money in the Bank 2011 I saw people complaining that Punk wasn't on the show... not a few people... a lot of them. See, now I know what you're saying, but is that impatience or just really wanting to see your favorite wrestler. Like, that's the GOOD kind of impatience.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 18:14:30 GMT -5
Yes... and yes... Sometimes the WWE stretches things out way way too long... especially with the amount of wrestling per week. other times the fans ARE really impatient. For instance ... RAW the day after Money in the Bank 2011 I saw people complaining that Punk wasn't on the show... not a few people... a lot of them. I bet those people are the ones that microwave Pop Tarts.
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Post by Arrow on Sept 13, 2013 18:19:03 GMT -5
I don't understand why exactly wrestling fans should be expected to wait six months for something to wind up being good. It's not like people do that with other shows generally; if a show sucks for 23 straight episodes of its season, you're usually not going to hear people bitching about how people who doubt the season finale will be any good aren't giving it a fair chance or need to learn to be patient or that it'll all work out in the end. If it's not good, then one shouldn't wait for it to be good. I agree with that. But that said, it's not that uncommon for people to complain about an otherwise well-booked storyline just because it's not concluded at the nearest opportunity. That's a criticism I don't agree with.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Sept 13, 2013 18:21:46 GMT -5
Do I need to whip out the Let's See Where This Goes Guys picture again?
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 13, 2013 18:29:11 GMT -5
We are at week iv of orton/bryan and people want it to end at noc? Why?
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Post by Chip on Sept 13, 2013 18:29:23 GMT -5
other times the fans ARE really impatient. For instance ... RAW the day after Money in the Bank 2011 I saw people complaining that Punk wasn't on the show... not a few people... a lot of them. See, now I know what you're saying, but is that impatience or just really wanting to see your favorite wrestler. Like, that's the GOOD kind of impatience. I think this is a major part of a larger issue currently. It's really hard to tell if people are talking about or criticizing a story line based on their fandom of a certain wrestler involved or the writing and execution of said story line. Essentially, the difference between a fan and an armchair booker. It doesn't help that a large amount of people will dip into armchair booking-esque statements to support their desires as a fan, quoting the ratings breakdowns and YouTube likes in an effort to support their desire for the pay-off to happen earlier. A lot of the time, it seems like people refuse to just admit they are fans invested in a story line, it's weird.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Sept 13, 2013 18:33:08 GMT -5
STOP DEBATING THIS AND GIVE ME THE GODDAMNED ANSWER
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Post by kidglov3s on Sept 13, 2013 18:36:45 GMT -5
Wrestling fans need to learn how to co-exist with each other.
There are people who are basically uncritical of wrestling. Wrestling is wrestling and they like wrestling. There are people who are very critical of wrestling (like me!), they feel like they've seen good wrestling and they've seen bad wrestling and if they feel like they're seeing good wrestling turn bad or bad wrestling perpetuate itself they're going to bitch about it.
This is ok, this is fine. There's an entire spectrum between these two points, and I think we could all work better at accepting each other's differences of opinion and perspective without feeling compelled to fold on our inclinations one way or another.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Sept 13, 2013 18:43:54 GMT -5
I think there should be a compromise between the two. You can't expect exciting moments each and every single week because that's a good way to burn your audience out fast, thus making it that much harder to keep them captivated. You have to stretch things out to make them more meaningful. Usually the longer a storyline goes on the more interest you build, as long as it's a story worth following.
But I can also realize that you can't stretch things out forever, because you risk turning off your audience by making them wait too long for a satisfying resolution. And even worse if the ending isn't satisfying at all, because it makes all the people feel like they wasted their time investing into your storyline only to be rewarded with that sort of ending. And once spurned, it'll make them that much harder to get invested into something again.
You can't please everybody, but you should try your damnedest to please as many people as you can.
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