Malcolm
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Post by Malcolm on Sept 14, 2013 16:28:13 GMT -5
Seriously, they need to do something about Del Rio.
Anyone remember that one post about him having a mustache and acting like a villain from a Spanish soap opera? WWE needs to do that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 16:29:19 GMT -5
His win just might be the most pointless Royal Rumble win of all-time. What exactly did his win accomplish? He got a world title shot at Mania... in which he not only lost, but in a match that opened the show. The pointlessness of his Rumble win was pretty much amplified. And to boot there was no chance for him to get any follow up or a win back because Edge almost immediately retired, making it even more pointless.
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Post by Essential1 on Sept 14, 2013 16:30:05 GMT -5
He didn't need it and was too fresh on the scene. He doesn't even mention it ever.
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Post by buttersock on Sept 14, 2013 17:06:45 GMT -5
He won the first 40 Man rumble by being a late entrant who took everyone's finisher, botched a closeline, and threw out a comedy act to win the thing. Bad writing. Everything before him entering was good stuff though.
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Post by Snowman on Sept 14, 2013 17:12:40 GMT -5
This is so amazing that this was a subject on a British TV show. Wish I was on the show I would have won. The only other final I would have win was when they did manic street preachers top 40 hits
Anyone got a clip of it? Will it be on bbc Iplayer?
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Post by TGM on Sept 14, 2013 17:33:55 GMT -5
Can't believe I missed this.
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Post by RedDevil on Sept 14, 2013 18:53:57 GMT -5
Anyone got a clip of it? Will it be on bbc Iplayer? I just watched it on iPlayer - it's called Pointless Celebrities and was broadcast on earlier on Saturday. I'm actually impressed they took the topic on - though we all obviously would've been desperate to have a crack at it in that situation, but the ladies made a decent go of it despite not knowing a great deal about wrestling.
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Post by Snowman on Sept 14, 2013 19:04:00 GMT -5
Anyone got a clip of it? Will it be on bbc Iplayer? I just watched it on iPlayer - it's called Pointless Celebrities and was broadcast on earlier on Saturday. I'm actually impressed they took the topic on - though we all obviously would've been desperate to have a crack at it in that situation, but the ladies made a decent go of it despite not knowing a great deal about wrestling. Oh I found it I have no idea who the women were though (guess they really were pointless celebrities) I think she was a bit gutted when she saw lex luxer's name that she didn't say him
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Sept 14, 2013 19:04:02 GMT -5
God damn, the one day my Dad doesn't watch it. Honestly, I wouldn't have even remembered he won it if asked. If trying to give an obscure answer, I probably would've said Vince or Sheamus.
Now KOTR winners, that'd be a hard one! I'd probably go for Billy Gunn, seeing as his win was pointless.
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Post by fart on Sept 14, 2013 19:11:54 GMT -5
They should have Dew Rio vs Taker at WM,consciously infuriating fans everywhere, and at the last second announce it's carreer on the line match. Taker chokeslams him off the stage, 'To Hell,' wins, announced Rio is fired irl, everyone happy.
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Post by Capt. Internet Darling on Sept 14, 2013 19:41:42 GMT -5
WHAT?
Pointless is my favourite show... if this was my final I would have dominated.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Sept 14, 2013 20:31:18 GMT -5
They should have had Santino win. Would have been memorable shocking and you could always write out his title shot with a match or a vicious Del Rio beating
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Sept 14, 2013 21:34:00 GMT -5
Del Rio obviously has a lot of value. I blame the booking in this case completely, and the reason I say that is because Del Rio is capable of doing anything they ask of him, and to me that's the standard for whether or not it's fair to blame the worker. I've always thought they booked him perfectly for like the first two weeks of his run starting with his debut and Smackdown, but from there it's been all one step forward then two steps back. He would be tough to book though because he's a natural heel but Ricardo Rodriguez is over as a face, which is I'm sure why they split them up and put Rodriguez with RVD. It's a little jarring, but it also makes a weird kind of sense. I really grow tired of seeing the booking blamed for Del Rio's lack of heat. You know who else has had some of the crappiest booking ever in WWE? Undertaker. Go back and look at some of the stupid shit he's been involved in, same goes for Kane. And yet, they're always popular and always get a reaction. Del Rio doesn't have the ability to turn lemons into lemonade. That's why he sucks. WWE hands him a lemon, and he goes out there and makes his segments as sour as possible for the viewing audience.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Sept 14, 2013 21:35:35 GMT -5
It should be a crime the way all that turned out. If they didn't plan on doing anything with Del Rio past that point, he should've never won the Rumble; instead they had him do it, choke at Mania and keep choking up until SummerSlam and by then, all his momentum had been pissed away.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 21:36:50 GMT -5
Del Rio obviously has a lot of value. I blame the booking in this case completely, and the reason I say that is because Del Rio is capable of doing anything they ask of him, and to me that's the standard for whether or not it's fair to blame the worker. I've always thought they booked him perfectly for like the first two weeks of his run starting with his debut and Smackdown, but from there it's been all one step forward then two steps back. He would be tough to book though because he's a natural heel but Ricardo Rodriguez is over as a face, which is I'm sure why they split them up and put Rodriguez with RVD. It's a little jarring, but it also makes a weird kind of sense. I really grow tired of seeing the booking blamed for Del Rio's lack of heat. You know who else has had some of the crappiest booking ever in WWE? Undertaker. Go back and look at some of the stupid shit he's been involved in, same goes for Kane. And yet, they're always popular and always get a reaction. Del Rio doesn't have the ability to turn lemons into lemonade. That's why he sucks. WWE hands him a lemon, and he goes out there and makes his segments as sour as possible for the viewing audience. Pretty much. Yeah, his booking's poor, but del Rio's gotten a hell of a lot more mic time and more screentime than someone like Kofi has ever gotten, but Kofi's over despite just sitting in the midcard kicking his way back and forth between the Intercontinental and US titles. Alberto has had four World / WWE title runs and someone like Fandango who just debuted in April and mostly takes part in comedy segments and runs away from fights is vastly more over than him.
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Sept 14, 2013 21:38:24 GMT -5
He should have retired Edge at Mania bottom line. It was his destiny.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 21:51:37 GMT -5
I really grow tired of seeing the booking blamed for Del Rio's lack of heat. You know who else has had some of the crappiest booking ever in WWE? Undertaker. Go back and look at some of the stupid shit he's been involved in, same goes for Kane. And yet, they're always popular and always get a reaction. Del Rio doesn't have the ability to turn lemons into lemonade. That's why he sucks. WWE hands him a lemon, and he goes out there and makes his segments as sour as possible for the viewing audience. Pretty much. Yeah, his booking's poor, but del Rio's gotten a hell of a lot more mic time and more screentime than someone like Kofi has ever gotten, but Kofi's over despite just sitting in the midcard kicking his way back and forth between the Intercontinental and US titles. Alberto has had four World / WWE title runs and someone like Fandango who just debuted in April and mostly takes part in comedy segments and runs away from fights is vastly more over than him. Ehhh...if you concede that his booking has sucked for quite a while now, why put a "but" on the end and be like "it shouldn't matter because Kofi stays over?" ADR ain't Kofi and I don't think it's convincing to expect him to be. Not everybody is going to stay over despite booking, nor should that be a requirement. Like, why even hand a guy bullshit in the first place? That hampers his ability to make money and supposedly it's all about making money. ADR's booking is the shits and really has been since that pointless loss to Edge at WM. If you think he's boring in the ring, then whatever, but we can't ignore that the dude did have crowd reaction when he's got direction. Dude's been booked on auto-pilot and that's a pretty big damn deal considering the spot he's supposed to occupy. I've been defending ADR a lot lately and I'm not even a fan of the guy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 22:42:44 GMT -5
So ADR's bad booking doesn't matter because Undertaker? Jesus that is seriously the shittiest argument I've ever seen on this board.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 0:33:35 GMT -5
I wouldn't say his run has been filled with bad booking all the way. From his debut till the Rumble win, I'd say he was booked pretty good. Built up at a nice pace, the gimmick looked to be getting a reaction... Then they forced him into a main event spot. Since then, he's been in many spots where he had the opportunity to get over, get a reaction from the crowd, justify his place on the card and it hasn't happened. He was pushed too hard, too fast and unlike most of the time that happens, he wasn't pushed down the card to rebuild his credibility. When your announcer is the only thing about you getting a reaction, something drastically needs to change. I say all of this as a Del Rio fan.
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Post by The OP on Sept 15, 2013 2:03:19 GMT -5
So ADR's bad booking doesn't matter because Undertaker? Jesus that is seriously the shittiest argument I've ever seen on this board. lol, yeah this conversation has taken a turn for the ridiculous. Del Rio has never failed to get a reaction even with the crappy booking anyway, so how did that suddenly become a talking point? And I'll say something else, I'll give Ricardo Rodriguez a lot of credit for having a great announcing voice and being a great gimmick for Del Rio, but that's all he is. He's like a human version of Undertaker's urn or Hacksaw's 2x4, and saying "he's not over, his ring announcer is" that's like saying somebody's not over but their gimmick is, it really doesn't make sense if you think it all the way through. Ricardo loses value without Del Rio, not the other way around.
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