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Post by wildojinx on Sept 17, 2013 0:08:26 GMT -5
Is it just me, or have we consistently had hot crowds with lots of huge crowd reactions for a while now? Seriously, these crowds remind me of attitude-era audiences, albiet without the more juvenile elements.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 0:10:05 GMT -5
Detroit was hit and miss for NoC. But extremely so. When they were hot they were red hot, but when they were cold, it was pin drop quiet.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 0:12:29 GMT -5
Last time they were in Cleveland, I remember the crowd being pretty sucky. Tonight, they were awesome.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Sept 17, 2013 0:15:33 GMT -5
Yes, some of those chicks in the audience are smoking! Although half the time I have to remind myself that they're probably only like 16 or so. Whoops, you meant "hotter" as in more vocal. Nevermind.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Sept 17, 2013 0:16:30 GMT -5
And next week they'll be in Chicago so I expect the trend to continue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 0:25:18 GMT -5
A lot has to do with pandering to the base. But, that can be an effective strategy, because said base gets excited and makes for a better show, and they might even try to get their friends on board since it's a product they can believe in. I'm a lot more likely to get my friends to watch now than I would've been in, say, 2009. "Dude, remember Triple H and Shawn Michaels? Well they're hanging out with this little person that they actually try to portray as a leprechaun! And ZZ Top is gona be there! You gotta watch!"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 0:30:25 GMT -5
What works too is now you kinda have a face at least 80% of the audience can get behind, fighting a heel who is threatening and uses his powers competently. AND THERE'S STAKES THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT! All that usually helps. A lot has to do with pandering to the base. But, that can be an effective strategy, because said base gets excited and makes for a better show, and they might even try to get their friends on board since it's a product they can believe in. I'm a lot more likely to get my friends to watch now than I would've been in, say, 2009. "Dude, remember Triple H and Shawn Michaels? Well they're hanging out with this little person that they actually try to portray as a leprechaun! And ZZ Top is gona be there! You gotta watch!" That line would make your friends not want to watch? DUDE, the only way I got my friends to watch was by telling them all the ridiculous shit they'd be doing on the show. It made great Rifftrax material.
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Post by celticjobber on Sept 17, 2013 0:36:48 GMT -5
I have a feeling this trend will stop in about two weeks on RAW.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Sept 17, 2013 0:37:58 GMT -5
I could do without the random JBL/King/Randy Savage chants, but otherwise I like it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 0:41:50 GMT -5
What works too is now you kinda have a face at least 80% of the audience can get behind, fighting a heel who is threatening and uses his powers competently. AND THERE'S STAKES THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT! All that usually helps. A lot has to do with pandering to the base. But, that can be an effective strategy, because said base gets excited and makes for a better show, and they might even try to get their friends on board since it's a product they can believe in. I'm a lot more likely to get my friends to watch now than I would've been in, say, 2009. "Dude, remember Triple H and Shawn Michaels? Well they're hanging out with this little person that they actually try to portray as a leprechaun! And ZZ Top is gona be there! You gotta watch!" That line would make your friends not want to watch? DUDE, the only way I got my friends to watch was by telling them all the ridiculous shit they'd be doing on the show. It made great Rifftrax material. This. It feels weird to see the top story being about the universally beloved face vs. the universally hated heel.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 0:54:51 GMT -5
I could do without the random JBL/King/Randy Savage chants, but otherwise I like it. Attributional bias kicked in for me tonight since Raw was in my hometown, so I was able to see some good in the chants. It makes Raw feel like a big party, where the fans buy a ticket and look forward to going and meeting up with other weirdo wrestling fans that like to chant inane shit and be silly. It's creating sort of an ECW-ish atmosphere at the shows, it's just fun. The crowd tonight still managed to be into the 4-way tag while chanting for JBL and Michael Cole, so it didn't do any harm.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 0:58:59 GMT -5
They sang Big Show's theme. That alone makes that crowd awesome.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Sept 17, 2013 1:03:23 GMT -5
I'm sick of every crowd chanting for the announcers during a random match once per show
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Post by thegame415 on Sept 17, 2013 3:38:30 GMT -5
Because of the cities. Toronto, Detroit, Cleveland are all old-school cities.
Wait till Raw comes to Biloxi in two weeks.
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Post by "American Nightmare" B.B. Bart on Sept 17, 2013 12:15:10 GMT -5
I could do without the random JBL/King/Randy Savage chants, but otherwise I like it. Attributional bias kicked in for me tonight since Raw was in my hometown, so I was able to see some good in the chants. It makes Raw feel like a big party, where the fans buy a ticket and look forward to going and meeting up with other weirdo wrestling fans that like to chant inane shit and be silly. It's creating sort of an ECW-ish atmosphere at the shows, it's just fun. The crowd tonight still managed to be into the 4-way tag while chanting for JBL and Michael Cole, so it didn't do any harm. If I remember correctly, they even chanted "That was awesome" in response to Cesaro doing his Giant Swing.
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Post by kidglov3s on Sept 17, 2013 12:19:44 GMT -5
Detroit was hit and miss for NoC. But extremely so. When they were hot they were red hot, but when they were cold, it was pin drop quiet. The crowd really wanted a great wrestling show, and were given Curtis Axel and a string of dumb finishes mostly with heels winning. When RVD did the thumbs or CM Punk came out or Daniel Bryan came out people were really stoked but even Bryan's win was tempered by the booking because everyone expected HHH to come out.
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Post by RedSmile on Sept 17, 2013 12:34:23 GMT -5
The NoC crowd only seemed interested in CM Punk, Bryan, and RVD when he pointed to himself.
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Post by kidglov3s on Sept 17, 2013 12:36:37 GMT -5
The NoC crowd only seemed interested in CM Punk, Bryan, and RVD when he pointed to himself. A lot of things in WWE kind of suck. CM Punk, RVD and Daniel Bryan are pretty awesome, a lot of people can't pretend that Curtis Axel is as exciting. I think if there was one thing that really killed the crowd it was the booking for the RVD match, ending like it did basically without a finish. Even if he had tapped out it would not have been as frustrating.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Sept 17, 2013 14:26:03 GMT -5
I have a feeling this trend will stop in about two weeks on RAW. Aw, man Corpus Christi again?!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 14:32:33 GMT -5
Last time they were in Cleveland, I remember the crowd being pretty sucky. Tonight, they were awesome. The night started a bit rough - the YES! chants at the beginning of the show seemed sparser than usual. But at the end of the show, they were VERY much larger and louder.
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