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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 19, 2013 22:31:41 GMT -5
This may be slightly pre-Attitude Era, so it can be moved as needed; plus the title sounds way more inflammatory that the thread actually is.
So I'm watching the King of the Ring dvd, and they've got a match on there between Shawn and Bulldog during Shawn's boyhood dream period where Jose Lothario is there (so that would be what like '96?)
Owen is on commentary with Vince and I can't remember who else, but it's weird cuz three or four times during the match they have Owen talk about Lothario in outright racist terms "cheating Mexican" that kinda thing. I was sorta half watching the match, and as soon as I heard that, looked up and like.. wait did Owen.. and he did it again.
It was jarring as all hell.
I should say I'm positive it wasn't Owen's idea, and he was a despicable heel at the time, but still I was surprised to hear it from him. Like it's not different than Heenan talking shit about Tito Santana all the time and such, just jarred me hearing Hart with it.
Who knew that (the character) Owen was racist at that time?
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Post by The Man They Call Asher on Sept 19, 2013 22:45:28 GMT -5
You hear that? They're chanting U-K! U-K! U-K!
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 19, 2013 22:48:00 GMT -5
You hear that? They're chanting U-K! U-K! U-K! Yep. That was great. |
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Post by JTG Fan on Sept 20, 2013 9:13:33 GMT -5
So Mexicans can't be cheaters?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 9:17:53 GMT -5
My favorite part of that match is the random, inexplicable fact that a PPV ended with the visual of an alliance of Shawn Michaels, Ahmed Johnson, and the Ultimate Warrior standing tall together. Just a couple of weeks before the full formation of the nWo at that.
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Post by CM Parish on Sept 20, 2013 9:26:48 GMT -5
So Mexicans can't be cheaters? Anyone can be anything, but when you refer to them by their race/country/ethnicity etc it's not cool. Being Mexican isn't being a "race", it's no different than being an "American", therefore it's probably more Xenophobic than Racist, but still. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 10:12:38 GMT -5
My favorite part of that match is the random, inexplicable fact that a PPV ended with the visual of an alliance of Shawn Michaels, Ahmed Johnson, and the Ultimate Warrior standing tall together. Just a couple of weeks before the full formation of the nWo at that. Yeah but to be fair, they were setting up for Ahmed/Warrior/HBK vs Camp Cornette at the next PPV but Warrior left again and was replaced by Sid. |
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Post by Lancers on Sept 20, 2013 10:19:49 GMT -5
Speaking of jarring, Youtube Jerry Lawler Attitude Era Goldust Promo.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Sept 20, 2013 10:33:14 GMT -5
Theres a lot worse things in wrestling than that..
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 20, 2013 11:35:02 GMT -5
Theres a lot worse things in wrestling than that.. Certainly. I wasn't putting it on any sorta scale of bad things. It just surprised me how random that Owen calling Jose Lothario a dirty Mexican outta nowhere was. |
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 20, 2013 11:39:21 GMT -5
Owen was hilarious on commentary on that show.
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Post by The Baltimore Staircase on Sept 20, 2013 11:45:51 GMT -5
It's a little stereotypical but I'd hardly consider it shocking.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 20, 2013 11:48:32 GMT -5
It's the way it was back then. Mexicans ate tacos, Samoans would carry chickens and black guys had hard heads.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 21, 2013 2:12:16 GMT -5
It doesn't seem that shocking to me. I think at Mania 6? Ventura said Tito should have given Barbarian some of his food, so he'd have to leave the match and you ain't right for a week after. Actually, they said a lot of things about Tito over the years.
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Post by The Ichi on Sept 21, 2013 3:12:28 GMT -5
Knowing Owen, this was probably just him in ribbing mode.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Sept 21, 2013 8:24:43 GMT -5
Yeah heels saying borderline racists things was the norm back then. It was almost 20 years ago. We can'tjudge them by today's acceptable standards.
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Post by hassanchop on Sept 21, 2013 9:37:38 GMT -5
You hear that? They're chanting U-K! U-K! U-K! Well, Bulldog did say he didn't like the fans chanting USA when he was tag partners with Luger. |
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Post by Jiren on Sept 21, 2013 9:45:20 GMT -5
I love his commentary when they show his loss to Mero
*Owen jumps off the apron and clocks Meri on the back of the head with his cast*
Owen: I slipped, I went to congratulate him and I slipped (Even though the video is showing Owen looking smug after hitting him)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2013 10:03:06 GMT -5
It's the way it was back then. Mexicans ate tacos, Samoans would carry chickens and black guys had hard heads. And the Japanese ate raw fish before every match. Not a model of political correctness, but I enjoyed Owen's commentary from that event, particularly in his defense of Goldust "kissing" Ahmed Johnson. |
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Sept 21, 2013 11:34:13 GMT -5
Racist Owen Hart sounds like a New Legacy Inc character.
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