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Post by JTG Fan on Sept 26, 2013 22:08:59 GMT -5
I don't like to say it, because I completely came around on him a few months after his initial singles run and enjoyed the hell out of everything he did, especially Calves 'N Abs. But while I don't blame him nearly as much as I blame bad booking because Bully really has tried, but let's call a spade a spade (or an ace an ace): This title reign blows. I'm not sure if it would be better or worse if TNA were still doing monthly PPVs, but I would lean towards worse. The match with Anderson has been the high point and even then it wasn't a very high point. A 2nd Roode title reign or a Daniels reign would have been much better than what we have got.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Sept 26, 2013 22:09:49 GMT -5
Bully is a tremendous heel but yeah, the booking and Aces & Eights has killed both of his reigns.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 22:11:08 GMT -5
No one can survive the stink of Ace's and 8's. It's just brutal.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 26, 2013 22:19:13 GMT -5
I had high hopes that Bully would have a standout title run. Now I'm wishing it would end already.
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Post by cabbageboy on Sept 26, 2013 22:22:49 GMT -5
I don't even know what he is doing at the moment. In theory he should be feuding with AJ now but AJ is now cannon fodder for a Dixie Carter heel turn and that match is barely being mentioned. Bully seems more like he's about to feud with Knux over the soul of Aces and Eights. In fact what IS the BFG card at this point?
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Post by kidglov3s on Sept 26, 2013 22:26:57 GMT -5
I don't even know what he is doing at the moment. In theory he should be feuding with AJ now but AJ is now cannon fodder for a Dixie Carter heel turn and that match is barely being mentioned. Bully seems more like he's about to feud with Knux over the soul of Aces and Eights. In fact what IS the BFG card at this point? I don't even know. What was scary to me about Impact tonight was that for the most part it seemed like they were just finding something for the guys still in the company to do and winding down old angles.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 22:28:52 GMT -5
You can say that this reign is bad, but look at it from this perspective: at least it's not Chris Sabin.
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Post by Some Guy on Sept 26, 2013 22:34:22 GMT -5
I don't even know what he is doing at the moment. In theory he should be feuding with AJ now but AJ is now cannon fodder for a Dixie Carter heel turn and that match is barely being mentioned. Bully seems more like he's about to feud with Knux over the soul of Aces and Eights. In fact what IS the BFG card at this point? The main event is Chavo and Shawn vs James Storm and the other guy...I think his name is generic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 1:48:52 GMT -5
Its not Bully's fault, the whole Aces and Eights angle should have never happened. Who has it got over? No one.
TNA current situation is a giant mess and no one seems to be doing anything.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Sept 27, 2013 2:06:49 GMT -5
It's flopped harder than I did when I suffered from erectile dysfunction after going on new medication.
...or maybe that happened because I invited Tenay and Taz over to call the action.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Sept 27, 2013 2:16:40 GMT -5
Bully is a tremendous heel but yeah, the booking and Aces & Eights has killed both of his reigns. Having two reigns doesn't help either. He should have had one,long dominant reign with the title before losing to AJ at BFG. I love Sabin but his reign really meant nothing in the long run & took away from Bully & his. Being with the Aces & 8's really hasn't helped his cause either; that group is stale as hell & and the sooner it's done with, the better for his career.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 27, 2013 3:22:26 GMT -5
Why DID they have Sabin have that weak ass win and subsequent non-run? It didn't elevate him, instead making him look like a fluke-y idiot, and it derailed any momentum Bully had, which he hasn't recovered yet.
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Post by Shark on Sept 27, 2013 3:30:19 GMT -5
The biggest problem is that he's yet to have that signature feud. A champion is only as good as his challenger and Bully had had very forgettable feuds. TNA's had this problem a lot lately. They gave Aries the title win and gave him no one to feud with. Roode was kind of the same way in that his big foe was supposed to be James Storm, but TNA booked Storm into oblivion. TNa needs to create some interesting feuds. Here we are, 3 weeks from their biggest show of the year and their world title match participants have yet to share a single promo. Next week we will get one and by then we'll be 2 weeks from BFG. TNA has seriously flopped with building to this show. And this was supposed to have been avoided by dropping all these PPVs!
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Post by ICBM on Sept 27, 2013 10:36:48 GMT -5
To be fair nobody I remember in a long time, had a really good title run. Styles got muffed when Hogan came in. Sting's are lackluster. Jeff Hardy muffed his with drugs before he got much heat. Bobby Rhoode had one going but the natural payoff of a rematch with Storm, got curtailed. AA actually did alright but didn't draw either. So I dunno if I should blame Bully or tna uncreative
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 27, 2013 12:39:09 GMT -5
It all has to do with his faction dying out before bfg. Now it is like nobody can buy him keeping the belt away from aj styles.
His run before losing to sabin was good. Why did he need to lose?
Why are they killing his faction before bfg?
Are they going to swerve us with knux, wes, and garrett powerbombing aj styles so bubba stays champ?
At this point story makes no sense. Bubba hates tna and has tried to take over and destroy it. AJ hates tna and will try his best to kill tna.
Why would I want either to be champ?
Hell if i was booking i would have had kennedy win the bfg series and start builind dissension within aces and 8s.
Anderson wins at bfg, then on impact bubba and the cronies beat up anderson and kick him out. Then we are off to the races as anderson swears to take down the club one guy at a time.
Easy ass booking. Too bad tna didn't re-sign him.
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Post by bob on Sept 27, 2013 14:01:11 GMT -5
I don't even know what he is doing at the moment. In theory he should be feuding with AJ now but AJ is now cannon fodder for a Dixie Carter heel turn and that match is barely being mentioned. Bully seems more like he's about to feud with Knux over the soul of Aces and Eights. In fact what IS the BFG card at this point?Bully Ray vs AJ Styles for the TNA world title also Kurt Angle is going to return that night and that's all that is announced and considering Bound For Glory is on October 20 that's pretty sad/stupid of them
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 14:02:34 GMT -5
The more that I think about it the more that I feel that the dreaded Budget Cutter and Angle's rehab stint have also laid waste to BFG booking.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 27, 2013 16:28:53 GMT -5
Why DID they have Sabin have that weak ass win and subsequent non-run? It didn't elevate him, instead making him look like a fluke-y idiot, and it derailed any momentum Bully had, which he hasn't recovered yet. Because TNA wanted to be unpredictable and gave Sabin a Lex Luger type of reign. Sabin's win would had meant something if he didn't look like a weak bitch against Bully. When the only way you could beat Bully was via outside interference and a hammer shot, you're doomed. Especially when you're suppose to be the face. Bully wasn't over enough to shrug off the lost and him winning back the title was a forgone conclusion. And Sabin wasn't elevated and is actually worst off before he won the title.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 27, 2013 16:30:58 GMT -5
The more that I think about it the more that I feel that the dreaded Budget Cutter and Angle's rehab stint has also lain waste to BFG booking. Somebody put a curse on TNA because they have the worst luck.
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Post by sunnytaker on Sept 27, 2013 21:19:03 GMT -5
Why DID they have Sabin have that weak ass win and subsequent non-run? It didn't elevate him, instead making him look like a fluke-y idiot, and it derailed any momentum Bully had, which he hasn't recovered yet. Because TNA wanted to be unpredictable and gave Sabin a Lex Luger type of reign. Sabin's win would had meant something if he didn't look like a weak bitch against Bully. When the only way you could beat Bully was via outside interference and a hammer shot, you're doomed. Especially when you're suppose to be the face. Bully wasn't over enough to shrug off the lost and him winning back the title was a forgone conclusion. And Sabin wasn't elevated and is actually worst off before he won the title. only thing i can think of is that it was just an excuse to give Sabin a reason to turn heel since TNA knew he'd be cheered on his return after all the bad injury luck he suffered. so that got him the x-division title, then they had to remember "option C" (which may be their version of money in the bank cash-ins as it's gone 2 for 2 now). the title "reign" seemed more of a thank you than anything- or to possibly try to divert attention from the AJ BFG win most were expecting because "instead of the surefire match with bully now it's sabin!" but of course Bully got it back which made any other reason for a sabin title run a waste unless it was to lead to a heel turn for him. of course velvel is still a face so trying to figure out if she's supposed to be TNA's Miss Elizabeth (apologies Liz) now or what?
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