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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Oct 4, 2013 0:58:19 GMT -5
I have an idea. How about NO to inducting the Poffo family? That sounds right.
Inducting the three of them would tarnish the HOF and they just put Bruno in for crying out loud. No need to go backwards now.
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Post by celticjobber on Oct 4, 2013 1:00:38 GMT -5
I have an idea. How about NO to inducting the Poffo family? That sounds right. Inducting the three of them would tarnish the HOF and they just put Bruno in for crying out loud. No need to go backwards now. I would argue that not having Randy Savage in the WWE Hall of Fame "tarnishes" it more than putting his brother and father into it would. Especially when unworthy wrestlers like Chris and Mike Von Erich and Koko B. Ware have been inducted already.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Oct 4, 2013 1:13:38 GMT -5
I have an idea. How about NO to inducting the Poffo family? That sounds right. Inducting the three of them would tarnish the HOF and they just put Bruno in for crying out loud. No need to go backwards now. I would argue that not having Randy Savage in the WWE Hall of Fame "tarnishes" it more than putting his brother and father into it would. Especially when unworthy wrestlers like Chris and Mike Von Erich and Koko B. Ware have been inducted already. But that's Randy's problem. No point in holding his HOF spot hostage because he wants to put his unworthy family in there too. The Von Erichs were worthy of it because their name was a HUGE brand in one of the hottest territories ever. The Poffos? Mmmmmyeah, not so much. Just Savage. Then, Now, Forever, etc.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 4, 2013 2:15:26 GMT -5
I would argue that not having Randy Savage in the WWE Hall of Fame "tarnishes" it more than putting his brother and father into it would. Especially when unworthy wrestlers like Chris and Mike Von Erich and Koko B. Ware have been inducted already. But that's Randy's problem. No point in holding his HOF spot hostage because he wants to put his unworthy family in there too. The Von Erichs were worthy of it because their name was a HUGE brand in one of the hottest territories ever. The Poffos? Mmmmmyeah, not so much. Just Savage. Then, Now, Forever, etc. Seriously, what is it to you if the whole family goes in? Tarnishes a HOF with Vince's limo driver, Pete Rose and Drew Carey, which isn't even a Hall of Fame. I've said it before, but it's not like if the whole family goes in it'll be 45 minutes of Angelo and Lanny and then they go, "Also, some guy...Ricky, I think he was." and they do a 3 minute induction. Randy will get the lionshare of the attention. His wishes, as we know them, are fullfilled and your life carries on just as it was before, except when you look at Wikipedia it has the Poffo Family. Worst thing WWE ever did was invite the fans into the ceremony, now they think the HOF is for them and not for the wrestlers.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Oct 4, 2013 8:41:41 GMT -5
But that's Randy's problem. No point in holding his HOF spot hostage because he wants to put his unworthy family in there too. The Von Erichs were worthy of it because their name was a HUGE brand in one of the hottest territories ever. The Poffos? Mmmmmyeah, not so much. Just Savage. Then, Now, Forever, etc. Seriously, what is it to you if the whole family goes in? Tarnishes a HOF with Vince's limo driver, Pete Rose and Drew Carey, which isn't even a Hall of Fame. I've said it before, but it's not like if the whole family goes in it'll be 45 minutes of Angelo and Lanny and then they go, "Also, some guy...Ricky, I think he was." and they do a 3 minute induction. Randy will get the lionshare of the attention. His wishes, as we know them, are fullfilled and your life carries on just as it was before, except when you look at Wikipedia it has the Poffo Family. Worst thing WWE ever did was invite the fans into the ceremony, now they think the HOF is for them and not for the wrestlers. Don't get wrong, it's incredibly stupid that Drew Carey is in the celebrity wing of the HOF. But I guess my gripe with the Poffos is that it doesn't make sense. It starts a trend of "if you do it for them, you have to do it for me too" where everyone's family starts demanding to go into the HOF. Even though not every family is worth it. It takes control away from WWE to make those decisions. And yeah, again, now that Bruno is in there, it feels like a legit HOF now. And the Poffos will only water it down all over again.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Oct 4, 2013 10:04:02 GMT -5
I have an idea. How about NO to inducting the Poffo family? That sounds right. Inducting the three of them would tarnish the HOF and they just put Bruno in for crying out loud. No need to go backwards now. Just my opinion, but Edge, Koko B. Ware, and Trish Stratus are in there. The Poffo family going in is in no way any worse than those three.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 10:12:23 GMT -5
They should just do a deal. Macho goes in one year alone, then X amount of years later, they do the whole family. It doesn't take a 'Genius' to work out that compromise. They could do it the same year. Only the hardest of hardcores would want to see the Poffo family induction, a lot of people want to see Macho go in, just have Macho headline and have the Poffo's as the secondary induction. I'd be fine with having Macho inducted by himself and with the Poffo family in the same year. He's one of the few guys you could do a double induction in the same year with and no one would care at all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 10:13:34 GMT -5
I have an idea. How about NO to inducting the Poffo family? That sounds right. Inducting the three of them would tarnish the HOF and they just put Bruno in for crying out loud. No need to go backwards now. Just my opinion, but Edge, Koko B. Ware, and Trish Stratus are in there. The Poffo family going in is in no way any worse than those three. Amen to that, brother.
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Post by cabbageboy on Oct 4, 2013 10:29:33 GMT -5
Why is Edge a bad HOF pick? I'm not sure about the "induct him immediately after he retires" aspect, but from 1998-2011 the guy was quality no matter where he was on the card. With Trish, eh. I'm not sure how to rate women wrestlers in history. Now Koko? That one is a joke.
I think the problem most have with the idea of the Poffos going in together is that no one really cares about Angelo or Lanny. No one views either as a HOF type, whereas Randy Savage is 1st ballot in a legit HOF. It would be like inducting Cal Ripken Sr. and Billy Ripken along with Cal. With the Von Erichs there isn't that one guy that truly stands out. One could argue that none except Fritz (who had the longevity) belong in, yet it seems odd to not have some combo of Kerry, Kevin, and David. Chris and Mike obviously don't belong in.
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Post by Ganon83 on Oct 4, 2013 11:11:53 GMT -5
If it happens, Elizabeth needs to at least be in the same class
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 14:00:22 GMT -5
Why is Edge a bad HOF pick? I'm not sure about the "induct him immediately after he retires" aspect, but from 1998-2011 the guy was quality no matter where he was on the card. I think that "induct him immediately after he retires" aspect was what made it feel wrong. It didn't feel as much like an earned accolade as it did like a push/angle. Edge still felt like a current wrestler at the time, and, IMO, it brought the HOF and the current product a little too close together. There's no doubting that he was a HOF contender - eventually. I admit that it feels to me that a large part of a wrestler's legacy is how well it stands up over a little bit of time, but I can understand that a HOF-worthy career is a HOF-worthy career. However, it felt much more like an angle to me, and even though arguing the legitimacy of the WWE HOF is all but laughable, it still seems like current angles should stay far, far away from it. There's also the idea that guys who are getting up in years still deserve a spot, and we saw how that played out with Savage, among others.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 4, 2013 15:27:06 GMT -5
The HOF is meaningless, but as long as it exists, Macho should be in it. I don't care who else needs to be inducted to make it happen, he has to be in it.
Miss Elzabeth too.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Oct 4, 2013 16:56:45 GMT -5
They should put them all in. Why does WWE act like they have integrity all of a sudden? And Angelo and Lanny are famous, if only by association. Some of the people that have made it in, I've never heard of despite being a wrestling fan for 30 years.
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Post by Paco on Oct 4, 2013 18:05:14 GMT -5
Screw this Koko hate. It's not a Hall of Win-Loss records. It's a Hall of FAME. I've heard more Koko B. Ware references in pop culture than I can count. Dude was memorable.
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Post by celticjobber on Oct 6, 2013 2:07:29 GMT -5
I have an idea. How about NO to inducting the Poffo family? That sounds right. Inducting the three of them would tarnish the HOF and they just put Bruno in for crying out loud. No need to go backwards now. Just my opinion, but Edge, Koko B. Ware, and Trish Stratus are in there. The Poffo family going in is in no way any worse than those three. I agree with Koko being a joke, and perhaps Edge went in too soon (but make no mistake, he deserved an induction more than most). But Trish Stratus is pretty much the best overall Diva in the company's history (though AJ could eventually displace her). There's no question that she belongs in their Hall of Fame.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 6, 2013 2:08:31 GMT -5
Seriously, what is it to you if the whole family goes in? Tarnishes a HOF with Vince's limo driver, Pete Rose and Drew Carey, which isn't even a Hall of Fame. I've said it before, but it's not like if the whole family goes in it'll be 45 minutes of Angelo and Lanny and then they go, "Also, some guy...Ricky, I think he was." and they do a 3 minute induction. Randy will get the lionshare of the attention. His wishes, as we know them, are fullfilled and your life carries on just as it was before, except when you look at Wikipedia it has the Poffo Family. Worst thing WWE ever did was invite the fans into the ceremony, now they think the HOF is for them and not for the wrestlers. Don't get wrong, it's incredibly stupid that Drew Carey is in the celebrity wing of the HOF. But I guess my gripe with the Poffos is that it doesn't make sense. It starts a trend of "if you do it for them, you have to do it for me too" where everyone's family starts demanding to go into the HOF. Even though not every family is worth it. It takes control away from WWE to make those decisions. And yeah, again, now that Bruno is in there, it feels like a legit HOF now. And the Poffos will only water it down all over again. Ok, let's run through legit wrestling families. Harts, Von Erichs, Vachons, Rhodes, Poffo, Armstrong, Ortons......off the top of my head I'm out already.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 6, 2013 2:25:45 GMT -5
Ok, let's run through legit wrestling families. Harts, Von Erichs, Vachons, Rhodes, Poffo, Armstrong, Ortons......off the top of my head I'm out already. Personally, I'd rank the Poffos above the Armstrongs and Ortons, but below the rest.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 2:37:10 GMT -5
But that's Randy's problem. No point in holding his HOF spot hostage because he wants to put his unworthy family in there too. The Von Erichs were worthy of it because their name was a HUGE brand in one of the hottest territories ever. The Poffos? Mmmmmyeah, not so much. Just Savage. Then, Now, Forever, etc. Seriously, what is it to you if the whole family goes in? Tarnishes a HOF with Vince's limo driver, Pete Rose and Drew Carey, which isn't even a Hall of Fame. I've said it before, but it's not like if the whole family goes in it'll be 45 minutes of Angelo and Lanny and then they go, "Also, some guy...Ricky, I think he was." and they do a 3 minute induction. Randy will get the lionshare of the attention. His wishes, as we know them, are fullfilled and your life carries on just as it was before, except when you look at Wikipedia it has the Poffo Family. Worst thing WWE ever did was invite the fans into the ceremony, now they think the HOF is for them and not for the wrestlers. I think it's all about the execution. I'm not against it as a means of tarnishing the family name, or the Hall of Fame. It's just that realistically, Randy Savage is all the fans really want. I don't have a problem with all of the Poffos all getting in there, but I wouldn't want Randy Savage inducted underneath a Poffo family blanket. Randy Savage deserves to be remembered on his own for his contributions. Lanny Poffo was a memorable guy, Angelo has his place in wrestling history, but Randy Savage still has a presence today and influenced a ton of guys currently wrestling. I'm not even really saying this with an entitlement of "this is what I want, so it must come to pass. I realize that the Hall of Fame isn't the most prestigious honor based on who's already been inducted so in the end what's gonna happen is gonna happen whether anyone likes it or not. But it is still a great resource for getting some real closure for a lot of guys in the WWE and I just find it to be more appropriate for Macho Man to be remembered as the force he was on his own before throwing the family in with him. Even if they wanna induct them all on the same night I think is alright, but not all at once. Let Lanny accept for himself and Angelo, then let Macho Man get top billing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 2:39:52 GMT -5
The Hall Of Fame simply exists to sell some extra tickets on WrestleMania weekend. Because of that, I see no reason why Angelo and Lanny couldn't be in. If it means that Macho is in, I'm all for it. They inducted Sunny for Yeezus' sake! SUNNY?!!! For the record, I'd have no problem with Todd being inducted.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Oct 6, 2013 2:42:24 GMT -5
Ok, let's run through legit wrestling families. Harts, Von Erichs, Vachons, Rhodes, Poffo, Armstrong, Ortons......off the top of my head I'm out already. Personally, I'd rank the Poffos above the Armstrongs and Ortons, but below the rest. Either way, there's only one Armstrong in the HOF. One Orton. One Rhodes. One Vachon. Two Harts. The Von Erich's were inducted, as I said, because they were a brand and performed together all the time. So, again, it would be too arbitrary to suddenly induct the entire Poffo family when it simply does not make sense.
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