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Post by Bravo Echo November on Oct 11, 2013 10:23:56 GMT -5
While I am agitated that they've cut back on pyro, show openings, and different set designs, those are all minuscule. You never have to settle for anything OP, you can always change the channel or come on here for results/opinions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 10:45:48 GMT -5
I'm really enjoying WWE right now. When I'm not, I don't watch it. There's plenty of wrestling out there that a lot of people don't give a chance because they aren't a wrestling fan, they're a WWE fan. They want the high production values and TV style wrestling. There's nothing wrong with that. It's not what I'm into though. I take breaks when I'm not liking WWE (Hell, I did this year until this Bryan thing started) and I only watch what I like (NXT and Raw)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 10:49:24 GMT -5
Just take a break from WWE for a bit, watch some other stuff for a while, check WWE out some months later.
I do it all the time.
I know when a lot of people think of companies other than WWE they're assuming they'll be watching the main event between 140 lb Indyflips Thomas and his bitter rival Chainwrestling Fred in their 9th 60 minute time limit draw, but there's really plenty of "regular" wrestling out there too.
Or just plain don't watch wrestling for a bit, which is also fine. You'll like it when you start watching again.
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Post by The Man They Call Asher on Oct 11, 2013 10:57:30 GMT -5
This whole Best for Business storyline is fine. But I haven't watched a full show that wasn't NXT since Summerslam. It's not because I don't like the way the story is going (this is some of Triple H's best work in years IMO), it's because I just don't care to see the matches because I feel like they've all been done to death. Bryan/Orton XVII is something I just don't want to see, and the Punk/Heyman feud blew its load at Summerslam with that awesome Punk/Lesnar match, nothing else in this feud will top that match. And outside of NXT, those are the only two things happening that are worth paying attention to.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 11:06:30 GMT -5
Because every single smark in the entire world could throw all their discretionary income at a different promotion and it wouldn't matter.
The WWE has grown to powerful. It killed it's prey. It stands alone atop the hill. It poaches at will. It dictates the terms.
You don't have to feed it. You can support the RoHs and Chikaras of this world, but nothing short of a miracle can stop the beast now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 11:10:12 GMT -5
WWE's not at their best right now, but speaking as a long-time fan, they've been far, far worse in the past. Sure, the undercard is basically directionless, but that's been a problem for years now, and the talent they have these days is so much better it's not even funny - I'd much sooner have people like the Wyatt Family, the Usos, Dolph Ziggler, and Damien Sandow having pointless matches than the likes of Snitsky, Heidenreich, Orlando Jordan, and the Basham Brothers.
There's some semblance of a tag division now, both midcard champions are involved in major feuds (even if the belts themselves are afterthoughts), and Bryan goddamn Danielson is the face of the company.
But as others have said OP, you don't need to "settle" for anything if you don't want to. Ring of Honor has a free weekly TV show available on their website, and there's all sorts of present-day lucha and Japanese stuff on YouTube. There are all sorts of alternatives if you're burnt out.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 11, 2013 11:16:29 GMT -5
Because every single smark in the entire world could throw all their discretionary income at a different promotion and it wouldn't matter. The WWE has grown to powerful. It killed it's prey. It stands alone atop the hill. It poaches at will. It dictates the terms. You don't have to feed it. You can support the RoHs and Chikaras of this world, but nothing short of a miracle can stop the beast now. But why be so concern about taking down WWE? Coca Cola is the number one selling beverage in the world. Doesn't mean I only have to drink Coke and not sample other drinks because they control the business. They can still be on top of the food chain and others still thrive. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 11:29:55 GMT -5
Because every single smark in the entire world could throw all their discretionary income at a different promotion and it wouldn't matter. The WWE has grown to powerful. It killed it's prey. It stands alone atop the hill. It poaches at will. It dictates the terms. You don't have to feed it. You can support the RoHs and Chikaras of this world, but nothing short of a miracle can stop the beast now. But why be so concern about taking down WWE? Coca Cola is the number one selling beverage in the world. Doesn't mean I only have to drink Coke and not sample other drinks because they control the business. They can still be on top of the food chain and others still thrive. It's not that anyone truly wants for their destruction, it's more wanting them to be able to be "checked." When The Monday Night Wars were on high, they were encouraged to always be mindful of their product, lest they start falling behind. Now they have no such rival. They can put the the thing on autopilot and be just fine. Not to say they don't care about what they're doing, just that there's no real desperation to being the best anymore. |
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Post by Long A, Short A on Oct 11, 2013 14:42:09 GMT -5
I'm curious, how much has the "Best for Business" angle changed your feelings on WWE? Speaking for myself, ever since it's started I've pretty much tuned out all together. I find the whole thing insulting, honestly. The "best for business" stuff gets on my first, middle, and last nerve. I feel like I'm being lectured and chastised every week because I don't like what I'm "supposed" to like. BTW I will not take a break or change the channel because those are just dismissive distractions that don't change the product. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 11, 2013 15:26:14 GMT -5
You don't have to settle for anything. If you are unhappy with what you are seeing, you have every right to change the channel. Can't do that. So you don't watch, but are asking whether we should settle? Why's it make any odds to you then? You seem to not like anything about the current product, even the things people currently like. I don't think settling is anything to do with it. You don't watch, because you don't like the show. That's kind of the end of it, isn't it? Don't even watch it on DVR anymore. |
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Oct 11, 2013 15:45:57 GMT -5
It's sad that whether or not I watch WWE's product (which I have done only once since the Raw when John Cena challenged Daniel Bryan to a match at Summerslam) that the quality of the product will not change.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 16:25:25 GMT -5
I'm curious, how much has the "Best for Business" angle changed your feelings on WWE? Speaking for myself, ever since it's started I've pretty much tuned out all together. I find the whole thing insulting, honestly. The "best for business" stuff gets on my first, middle, and last nerve. I feel like I'm being lectured and chastised every week because I don't like what I'm "supposed" to like. BTW I will not take a break or change the channel because those are just dismissive distractions that don't change the product. How do you feel that WWE is lecturing you? The whole "best for business" spiel is quite bluntly being presented as condescension coming from a corrupt, arrogant authority figure. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 11, 2013 16:44:46 GMT -5
I will always crack up at people who talk about how dissatisfied they are with WWE but won't even give more than a passing glance at TNA or the indies. OK, if you watch one of their shows and you don't like it, fine. Nobody is saying you have to. But to say that you won't even give it a chance...like, are you real? Do you REALLY not see the massive flaw in your logic? If you honestly are that dissatisfied with WWE but don't even want to give the alternatives a chance, maybe this whole pro-rasslin' thing isn't for you and you should just find a different hobby.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 11, 2013 19:36:29 GMT -5
People are acting like watching WWE is the equivalent of being in a long, loveless marriage. Guess what? You can get a divorce and find happiness elsewhere. You don't have to be in love being miserable unless that is what brings you joy. does that make TNA the ugly hooker you see on the side and make wear a paper bag on her head so you can pretend she's the girl you never asked out in high school? |
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Post by Sparkybob on Oct 11, 2013 21:13:50 GMT -5
People are acting like watching WWE is the equivalent of being in a long, loveless marriage. Guess what? You can get a divorce and find happiness elsewhere. You don't have to be in love being miserable unless that is what brings you joy. does that make TNA the ugly hooker you see on the side and make wear a paper bag on her head so you can pretend she's the girl you never asked out in high school? Come on, no need to bring Claire Lynch into this. |
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Post by revolver86 on Oct 11, 2013 21:44:45 GMT -5
I swear, I'm loving the direction of things. But my viewership has declined since Summerslam. That was the last night my bar, with all my wrestling friends, stopped showing wrestling, and then my first girlfriend broke up with me the next day. It sucks, because what I hear is going on is right up my alley, but I'm just too depressed to do just about anything, right now  |
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