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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 21, 2013 22:40:58 GMT -5
After last night...scorch the earth on this motherf***er. Try again, better luck next time.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 22, 2013 0:11:41 GMT -5
I doubt anyone would want to buy it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 0:26:25 GMT -5
Let Jeff Jarrett take over and give him the belt.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Oct 22, 2013 1:00:43 GMT -5
I doubt anyone would want to buy it. Yeah, you see people on the net that say they hope WWE buys TNA. I have never once thought McMahon would ever consider it. -Buying TNA & utilizing the footage (ala WCW) would never work. Pretty much everyone who wants a TNA DVD already has it. I've never heard anyone clamoring for a TNA DVD. Whereas, I have heard ppl say they would like a DVD of "this" or "that" of WCW. -There would not be any gain roster-wise. It'd be more worth it for WWE to wait for contracts to expire & pick up the two or three guys that would be an asset to their midcard. I'm not a TNA hater. Those are facts. I worked with (not for) the company earlier this year, they have a lot of great, kind people working for them behind the scenes. I would like to see a true alternative to the WWE out there (TNA is neither an alternative or competition to). I believe that more wrestling companies on TV creates more exposure for wrestlers, more job opportunities for wrestlers, and the potential of more star wrestlers. However, TNA hasn't done any of those things besides providing employment for wrestlers. I would hate to see TNA go out of business. It would be great if SPIKE just bought TNA, changed it's name, and ran it on it's own. Refocus it as a TV "show" (forget the touring, etc, for a bit). Build it up & it's characters, before taking the TV show on the road & then expanding in to house shows as well. Yes, that would be pretty much starting from scratch in many respects, but that would be better than a hastily thrown together reboot.
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Post by 67 more on Oct 22, 2013 3:56:03 GMT -5
I say make the most of the rest of the year. Give us one last AJ/Daniels match, have AJ drop the title to Daniels, and have him be the last TNA champ. Close at the beginning of next year. Either that, or force Dixie and the idiots feeding her bullcrap (BISCHOFF) out and let someone else run the show. At this rate, ANYONE could do better than them. Chris Daniels is 43 and weighs probably under 200 pounds... Rey Mysterio is a 3-time WWE world champion. Daniel Bryan is a 4-time world champion. Chris Sabin is a former TNA Champion. Austin Aries is a 3-time world champion. AJ Styles is a 5-time world champion. This isn't the 80s, we've got past the size barrier. Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, DDP, Undertaker all won world titles in their 40s. Christopher Daniels is one of the best wrestlers in the world in-ring and on the mic. There is zero reason why Daniels should not have held the TNA title at some point.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 22, 2013 6:48:17 GMT -5
I sHe and the idiots feeding her bullcrap (BISCHOFF) out and let someone else run the show. At this rate, ANYONE could do better than them. Chris Daniels is 43 and weighs probably under 200 pounds... he's also been among the top.2 or 3 most entertaining guys there for the company's entire history.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Oct 22, 2013 7:45:07 GMT -5
I doubt anyone would want to buy it. Yeah, you see people on the net that say they hope WWE buys TNA. I have never once thought McMahon would ever consider it. -Buying TNA & utilizing the footage (ala WCW) would never work. Pretty much everyone who wants a TNA DVD already has it. I've never heard anyone clamoring for a TNA DVD. Whereas, I have heard ppl say they would like a DVD of "this" or "that" of WCW. -There would not be any gain roster-wise. It'd be more worth it for WWE to wait for contracts to expire & pick up the two or three guys that would be an asset to their midcard. I'm not a TNA hater. Those are facts. I worked with (not for) the company earlier this year, they have a lot of great, kind people working for them behind the scenes. I would like to see a true alternative to the WWE out there (TNA is neither an alternative or competition to). I believe that more wrestling companies on TV creates more exposure for wrestlers, more job opportunities for wrestlers, and the potential of more star wrestlers. However, TNA hasn't done any of those things besides providing employment for wrestlers. I would hate to see TNA go out of business. It would be great if SPIKE just bought TNA, changed it's name, and ran it on it's own. Refocus it as a TV "show" (forget the touring, etc, for a bit). Build it up & it's characters, before taking the TV show on the road & then expanding in to house shows as well. Yes, that would be pretty much starting from scratch in many respects, but that would be better than a hastily thrown together reboot. This is everyone's pipedream. With the exception of a network head being a moneymark like Turner, it wouldn't happen. Spike makes television shows. FX doesn't pay to bring Louis CK to your town to do comedy. The less reliant they can be on Spike the better their chance of survival. Louis CK is a hot comedy act and could probably fill an arena better than Hulk Hogan at this point in their respective careers, but it doesn't benefit either party. What benefits them is the looser relationship. Louis does his tours on his own and it promotes his television show and the television show brings people out to see him. That's how wrestling runs best too.
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Post by Rave on Oct 22, 2013 8:06:41 GMT -5
Chris Daniels is 43 and weighs probably under 200 pounds... he's also been among the top.2 or 3 most entertaining guys there for the company's entire history. And really, let's face it. If the freaking Bro-Mans being tag champs is any indication, TNA is now in the time of "Why not?". They've thrown pretty much everyone they can at the problem of them not attracting fans, why not make Daniels the champ and part of the company focal point for a while? He could run with it, be the centerpiece of EGO, and the three of them could fend off all challengers 'til a suitable face (Magnus?) can step up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 8:09:33 GMT -5
Just pull the plug so we can have Jeff Hardy and Angle back in WWE and Magnus and couple other guys/girls in NXT. Others will make more money on indies than those 300$ they get per appearance in TNA.
And most importantly let Hulk be without a job until he tucks his tail and gets a WWE contract that actually is appropriate for a man his age/relevance/ability.
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Post by SOR on Oct 22, 2013 10:30:34 GMT -5
Chris Daniels is 43 and weighs probably under 200 pounds... He weighs 225 pounds. That's more than AJ and Jeff Hardy weigh and it's only 7 years the difference in age. He's billed at 225. It's a work nobody weighs what the ring announcer says they do. It's usually add 15-20 pounds. Basically my point is he's very thin and definitely looks it. I'm all for small guys getting a title run if they're in shape and look after themselves but Daniels clearly does not. Chris Daniels is 43 and weighs probably under 200 pounds... Rey Mysterio is a 3-time WWE world champion. Daniel Bryan is a 4-time world champion. Chris Sabin is a former TNA Champion. Austin Aries is a 3-time world champion. AJ Styles is a 5-time world champion. This isn't the 80s, we've got past the size barrier. Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, DDP, Undertaker all won world titles in their 40s. Christopher Daniels is one of the best wrestlers in the world in-ring and on the mic. There is zero reason why Daniels should not have held the TNA title at some point. Everyone except Sabin that you've listed is bigger then Daniels. Age definitely comes into it because a lot of people on this board are anti Kurt Angle winning the World Title who is only about a year and a half older then Daniels. In my opinion, Daniels is one of the more overrated guys out there in TNA. He is far from one of the best in the world on ring and on mic. He's decent on the mic and he's good in the ring but I could list at least 10 guys who are better then him in those 2 categories. People want to see him with a World Title because he's a good wrestler but he's an incredibly poor entertainer. When I watch him I cringe and want to turn off the broadcast. Obviously this is my opinion but yeah, I don't "get" Daniels He should be an X-Division guy or tag guy until he retires. Thank god that the people within TNA agree with me.
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Post by 67 more on Oct 22, 2013 12:52:29 GMT -5
He weighs 225 pounds. That's more than AJ and Jeff Hardy weigh and it's only 7 years the difference in age. He's billed at 225. It's a work nobody weighs what the ring announcer says they do. It's usually add 15-20 pounds. Basically my point is he's very thin and definitely looks it. I'm all for small guys getting a title run if they're in shape and look after themselves but Daniels clearly does not. Rey Mysterio is a 3-time WWE world champion. Daniel Bryan is a 4-time world champion. Chris Sabin is a former TNA Champion. Austin Aries is a 3-time world champion. AJ Styles is a 5-time world champion. This isn't the 80s, we've got past the size barrier. Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, DDP, Undertaker all won world titles in their 40s. Christopher Daniels is one of the best wrestlers in the world in-ring and on the mic. There is zero reason why Daniels should not have held the TNA title at some point. Everyone except Sabin that you've listed is bigger then Daniels. Age definitely comes into it because a lot of people on this board are anti Kurt Angle winning the World Title who is only about a year and a half older then Daniels. In my opinion, Daniels is one of the more overrated guys out there in TNA. He is far from one of the best in the world on ring and on mic. He's decent on the mic and he's good in the ring but I could list at least 10 guys who are better then him in those 2 categories. People want to see him with a World Title because he's a good wrestler but he's an incredibly poor entertainer. When I watch him I cringe and want to turn off the broadcast. Obviously this is my opinion but yeah, I don't "get" Daniels He should be an X-Division guy or tag guy until he retires. Thank god that the people within TNA agree with me. Daniels isn't in shape? Doesn't look after himself? What show are you watching? If anyone's anti-Angle, it's because of his health. Daniels has shown no sign of the physical breakdown that Angle has. Rey Mysterio is certainly not bigger than Daniels, aside from width perhaps. I appreciate you may not enjoy him but to call Daniels a poor entertainer is ridiculous.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 22, 2013 13:25:08 GMT -5
he's also been among the top.2 or 3 most entertaining guys there for the company's entire history. And really, let's face it. If the freaking Bro-Mans being tag champs is any indication, TNA is now in the time of "Why not?". They've thrown pretty much everyone they can at the problem of them not attracting fans, why not make Daniels the champ and part of the company focal point for a while? He could run with it, be the centerpiece of EGO, and the three of them could fend off all challengers 'til a suitable face (Magnus?) can step up. Honestly, I'm entertained by the Bro Mans (or at least Robbie E)so them winning doesn't bug me. Daniels and Kaz don't need the titles Chavo and Hernandez aren't over, nor is Gunner and James Storm has had 2 or 3 fairly serious injuries recently. While giving EGO the belts would have been perfectly fine with me, Robbie and Jesse get a bigger rub from winning the titles than EGO.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Oct 22, 2013 13:31:50 GMT -5
I feel your pain, ICBM. I know it might be a pipe dream but I wished Disney would buy TNA and do a complete overhaul of the promotion. Change the name, fire the deadweight and cancer, hire people who know what they are doing, and change the tv content. Basically, work the Disney magic. A wrestling promotion that is family friendly would excel in their corporate brand. That would be Vince's worst nightmare and possibly disastrously funny. Of course there's absolutely no reason for them to buy TNA if they're going to change the name. 1. Disney owning TNA giving Vince nightmares would be a great thing for fans of both TNA and WWE as witnessed by the Monday. Night Wars. 2. Just call it Impact Wrestling.
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Post by machomuta on Oct 22, 2013 16:03:38 GMT -5
Chris Daniels is 43 and weighs probably under 200 pounds... So what? He could probably still kick your ass in a real fight. Do you only want steroid freaks as champions??
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Post by Michael Coello on Oct 22, 2013 16:41:22 GMT -5
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Post by gnr123 on Oct 22, 2013 16:48:43 GMT -5
I say make the most of the rest of the year. Give us one last AJ/Daniels match, have AJ drop the title to Daniels, and have him be the last TNA champ. Close at the beginning of next year. Either that, or force Dixie and the idiots feeding her bullcrap (BISCHOFF) out and let someone else run the show. At this rate, ANYONE could do better than them. Chris Daniels is 43 and weighs probably under 200 pounds... For once I agree with you. There's no point in giving the belt to a 43 year old who hasn't done much of anything in TNA to begin with.
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Post by chazraps on Oct 22, 2013 17:08:54 GMT -5
Not taking shots at anyone, but why does it seem like the loudest "JUST KILL IT! LET IT DIE!" opinions come from the voices who haven't followed it for years?
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Post by chazraps on Oct 22, 2013 17:10:32 GMT -5
He's billed at 225. It's a work nobody weighs what the ring announcer says they do. It's usually add 15-20 pounds. Basically my point is he's very thin and definitely looks it. I'm all for small guys getting a title run if they're in shape and look after themselves but Daniels clearly does not. Everyone except Sabin that you've listed is bigger then Daniels. Age definitely comes into it because a lot of people on this board are anti Kurt Angle winning the World Title who is only about a year and a half older then Daniels. In my opinion, Daniels is one of the more overrated guys out there in TNA. He is far from one of the best in the world on ring and on mic. He's decent on the mic and he's good in the ring but I could list at least 10 guys who are better then him in those 2 categories. People want to see him with a World Title because he's a good wrestler but he's an incredibly poor entertainer. When I watch him I cringe and want to turn off the broadcast. Obviously this is my opinion but yeah, I don't "get" Daniels He should be an X-Division guy or tag guy until he retires. Thank god that the people within TNA agree with me. Daniels isn't in shape? Doesn't look after himself? What show are you watching? If anyone's anti-Angle, it's because of his health. Daniels has shown no sign of the physical breakdown that Angle has. Rey Mysterio is certainly not bigger than Daniels, aside from width perhaps. I appreciate you may not enjoy him but to call Daniels a poor entertainer is ridiculous. Best to just ignore anything SOR says about Daniels. It seems he's holding some bizarre grudge against him for some reason.
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Post by Glitch on Oct 22, 2013 17:18:26 GMT -5
I doubt anyone would want to buy it. Yeah, you see people on the net that say they hope WWE buys TNA. I have never once thought McMahon would ever consider it. -Buying TNA & utilizing the footage (ala WCW) would never work. Pretty much everyone who wants a TNA DVD already has it. I've never heard anyone clamoring for a TNA DVD. Whereas, I have heard ppl say they would like a DVD of "this" or "that" of WCW. While there wouldn't necessarily be that big of a market for sought after TNA DVDs, owning the footage would help make complete DVDs of wwe stars. R-truth is a good example. He was K-kwik when he left wwe and his career while there was actually pretty damn short. He not only spent like 8 years in Tna, but the name and gimmick of "Truth" was where he came up with it. A DVd of Truth would make a hell of a lot sense with that big gap filled in. Plus I bet Vince could easily buy TNA for a steal if it came up. It wouldn't inconvenient him too much to buy it.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 22, 2013 17:18:38 GMT -5
Not taking shots at anyone, but why does it seem like the loudest "JUST KILL IT! LET IT DIE!" opinions come from the voices who haven't followed it for years? That, I actually do have a big problem with. If you don't watch the show, fine but how can you honestly that it should die if you haven't watched consistently in years?
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