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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Oct 27, 2013 20:59:52 GMT -5
So if Bischoff does buy it does this mean we will be getting TNA road wild.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 27, 2013 21:02:17 GMT -5
I'd be fine with it. With one man at the helm, no committee members to appease and a background in marketing wrestling, you could do worse in a buyer. Think about th compromises you have to do when dealing with a committee that answer to the whims of a non-wrestling owner in Dixie Carter. Everybody will have their own favorite and everybody will have to get paid off. One guy runs the show than it is one way period. By proxy continuity is assured. Vince McMahon has made billions in wrestling doing things his way Bischoff had carte blanche power in WCW to do whatever he wanted and he f***ed it all up by doing nothing while the WWF flew by them and he was eventually fired. A big part of the problem was contracts. I am not Eric's biggest fan, by any means, but when you had Luger with a title run in his contract, Hogan with creative control of his character, and other contracts that needed to be reviewed each and every time, his hands were tied. He was contractually obligated to push Hogan and some others.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Oct 27, 2013 21:06:52 GMT -5
@newlegacyinc the rumors are true. we are buying TNA. impact will now be 2 hours of scott steiner playing video games. you're welcome. they've been reading my dream journal
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 27, 2013 21:07:19 GMT -5
@newlegacyinc the rumors are true. we are buying TNA. impact will now be 2 hours of scott steiner playing video games. you're welcome. We eagerly await the cross-promotional PPV with Hogan vs. Flair.
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Post by ICBM on Oct 27, 2013 21:11:06 GMT -5
Or the co- branding with Sons of Anarchy
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Post by Emmet Russell on Oct 27, 2013 21:12:50 GMT -5
I'd honestly trust Bischoff to turn things around for the better, so I'd be fine with it. I'm curious why you think so? I wouldn't trust Bischoff with anything at this point - unless you want to see Garett as TNA champion, this isn't a good idea.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2013 21:14:19 GMT -5
I'd honestly trust Bischoff to turn things around for the better, so I'd be fine with it. I'm curious why you think so? I wouldn't trust Bischoff with anything at this point - unless you want to see Garett as TNA champion, this isn't a good idea. I'm saying that more so compared to the Carters.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Oct 27, 2013 21:17:19 GMT -5
Guys, what do you think the TNA pizza oven costs?
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Post by Emmet Russell on Oct 27, 2013 21:19:18 GMT -5
I'm curious why you think so? I wouldn't trust Bischoff with anything at this point - unless you want to see Garett as TNA champion, this isn't a good idea. I'm saying that more so compared to the Carters. Maybe I just hate Bischoff with a passion, but I don't think that's true. He hasn't had a good idea since the original NWO & i'm at the point of hating him as an on-screen character. I'm now under the impression though that Dixie made herself an on-screen character so that when TNA is sold, she's still got a position in the company.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 27, 2013 21:20:36 GMT -5
Bischoff had carte blanche power in WCW to do whatever he wanted and he f***ed it all up by doing nothing while the WWF flew by them and he was eventually fired. A big part of the problem was contracts. I am not Eric's biggest fan, by any means, but when you had Luger with a title run in his contract, Hogan with creative control of his character, and other contracts that needed to be reviewed each and every time, his hands were tied. He was contractually obligated to push Hogan and some others. There's one thing you're overlooking here, he was the one that gave them those contracts in the first place so the problems he faced were problems of his own creation and there is absolutely no evidence that he has learned anything from the damage he did to WCW. I'm now under the impression though that Dixie made herself an on-screen character so that when TNA is sold, she's still got a position in the company. Why would she do that? She's an experienced PR person with an incredibly wealthy family willing to buy her a business so she has something to do. Being a heel on TV actually damages her more than it helps and smacks of a Bischoff idea rather than something she herself was pushing for given how few storylines she's been involved with in her time running TNA.
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Post by JTG Fan on Oct 27, 2013 21:23:39 GMT -5
I'd honestly trust Bischoff to turn things around for the better, so I'd be fine with it. I'm curious why you think so? I wouldn't trust Bischoff with anything at this point - unless you want to see Garett as TNA champion, this isn't a good idea.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Oct 27, 2013 21:24:07 GMT -5
I'm curious why you think so? I wouldn't trust Bischoff with anything at this point - unless you want to see Garett as TNA champion, this isn't a good idea. Saving the business.
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Post by SOR on Oct 27, 2013 21:26:50 GMT -5
Guys I can confirm that the Carters want to sell TNA. I just purchased it and it now belongs to me. First order of business is bringing Eric and Hulk back but this time, with 100% control *Cue the nooooo's* I'm saying that more so compared to the Carters. Maybe I just hate Bischoff with a passion, but I don't think that's true. He hasn't had a good idea since the original NWO & i'm at the point of hating him as an on-screen character. I'm now under the impression though that Dixie made herself an on-screen character so that when TNA is sold, she's still got a position in the company. What about all the good ideas WCW had when nWo began to die down in late 97?
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Post by Emmet Russell on Oct 27, 2013 21:33:20 GMT -5
Okay, he maybe had a few more ideas than I gave him credit for, but his main idea was the NWO - which was taken from Japan. I just don't think he's got any good ideas left in the tank at this point, much like Russo. I would much prefer they sign someone who's new & has fresh ideas with a passion for wrestling. At least it would be something different.
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Post by Error on Oct 27, 2013 21:36:16 GMT -5
Bischoff has shown he is a creative nothing whose best idea is "throw money at it" so I don't see how him buying TNA does anything but give it a few more years before he is bankrupt and shuts it down or sells it. Beside that, he has had damn near complete control (the only times he's lost out being when his idea to go against Vince failed and now the traveling show failed and forced the Carters to make changes) since he arrived in 2010 and we've seen what that has done for TNA. If TNA is to survive, a sale to Viacom (SPIKE) or to someone with a TV outlet would be their best bet I'd wager.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Oct 27, 2013 21:45:39 GMT -5
First off, I wonder who will be a future World Champion if that's the case.
However, I'm not a fan of Easy E buying it. Maybe if he was just the promoter and had a booker to do things for him, it could be a bit better. I think he's become one of those guys who is just set in his ways and won't think of any new ideas or concepts.
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Post by SOR on Oct 27, 2013 21:46:24 GMT -5
Okay, he maybe had a few more ideas than I gave him credit for, but his main idea was the NWO - which was taken from Japan. I just don't think he's got any good ideas left in the tank at this point, much like Russo. I would much prefer they sign someone who's new & has fresh ideas with a passion for wrestling. At least it would be something different. The stealing the nWo idea thing from Japan is complete myth. The show people say he stole it from featured an invasion angle similar to WCW Vs WWF rather then nWo. There was no black and white or big baby face turning heel or anything like that. It was just a pretty basic invasion angle. If anything if you want to say Bischoff stole the basic idea of it that's fine but his ideas are what made the nWo so memorable and great.
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Post by Talent Name on Oct 27, 2013 21:48:14 GMT -5
Guys it was actually bought by Titor Conglomerate
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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 27, 2013 21:57:08 GMT -5
Okay, he maybe had a few more ideas than I gave him credit for, but his main idea was the NWO - which was taken from Japan. I just don't think he's got any good ideas left in the tank at this point, much like Russo. I would much prefer they sign someone who's new & has fresh ideas with a passion for wrestling. At least it would be something different. Bischoff's two biggest contributions to wrestling were that he shook up the TV formula by actually having the entire card consist of name wrestler versus name wrestlers instead of name wrestler versus no name jobber, and that he helped further the "reality TV" direction wrestling was starting to go in at the time by booking events as if they were unscripted, thereby upping the drama. Bischoff's biggest weaknesses are that he relies way too much on pre-established talent and has no idea how to groom new talent to eventually take their place. He also has a tendency to repeat himself and recycle the same handful of ideas over and over instead of trying to add something new and different to it. Bischoff is one of those "if its not broke don't fix it" types, rather than a "if its worn out it should be replaced" types.
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Post by SOR on Oct 27, 2013 22:20:34 GMT -5
Just a couple guys that Eric Bischoff had no idea how to groom and did nothing for: SpoilerNot to mention breathing much needed life into peoples careers like Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Lex Luger, Randy Savage, Scott Hall and Sting
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