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Post by celticjobber on Oct 29, 2013 19:18:54 GMT -5
Have him grow a beard and join the Wyatt family.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Oct 29, 2013 20:00:14 GMT -5
Hopefully they remember what he did so well before & reposition him that way. He could be a perfect mouthpiece for Hunter & Steph. Let him be an obnoxious heel. Burying him for a bad babyface run would be like deciding Jerry Seinfeld isn't worth hiring because he was cast as a dark figure in an Aronofsky film. The odd thing about Miz was that when he was heel, they booked his matches like he was a baby face. I remember during the WWE Title tournament post-CM Punk pipebomb, he won every single match clean. Later that year during MiTB when he got injured, he got a big pop for running down to compete in the match despite his injury. It's kinda weird. When he was at his apex as a heel (2010 - 2011), they booked him virtually the way they should be booking him now: inside the ring, he was the perpetual guy in peril, always the guy expected to lose but found a way to win; outside the ring, he was cheesy and fun. What is he as a face right now? This completely unbelievable "SRS badass" who seems to hover between unbearably "face funny" and transparently overpowered. Miz is pretty much just one of many cases of the WWE Special: They stumble upon something that makes people cheer someone even as a heel, then they take everything that makes them likable and make them face.  |
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Oct 29, 2013 20:38:46 GMT -5
the guy is done. He should do like Morrisson, just go away for a long while so that people want to see him again.
Steph's mean promo on him then Show knocking him out while people were cheering was so pathetic I almost felt sad for the guy. The only heat he receive is X-Pac heat, apart from that, stunned silence or polite indifference.
Being dismembered in front of his freakin parents in his hometown couldn't even gain him a little bit of sympathy.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Oct 29, 2013 20:49:25 GMT -5
the guy is done. He should do like Morrisson, just go away for a long while so that people want to see him again. Steph's mean promo on him then Show knocking him out while people were cheering was so pathetic I almost felt sad for the guy. The only heat he receive is X-Pac heat, apart from that, stunned silence or polite indifference. Being dismembered in front of his freakin parents in his hometown couldn't even gain him a little bit of sympathy. I don't know what was worse about that Big Show/Miz TV segment: the part where Big Show not only didn't do the whole "Big Sob" thing before knocking him out, but knocked him out without hesitation, or the part where the audience cheered him getting knocked out. |
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Post by mizerable on Oct 29, 2013 21:26:00 GMT -5
I'll say this, I'm not a fan of the guy...but I do think he's taken steps to evolve into a better character.
First and foremost, he got rid of the Kindergarten haircut which looked extra ridiculous with the suit. But now, he has more of a playboy look to him.
Secondly, as much as I think he's cringeworthy...I think Miz is a better face character over heel character. Since he was never really booked as a chickeshit heel, I hated the fact that he looked as competent as he did, despite not seeming as competent in the ring. Whereas a face, he can stand his ground and it makes sense. On top of that, I think he's better off in the ring being the guy that sells. As a heel, this is why he was such a mess to watch, because he'd control 75% of the match and he just could not make it seem realistic.
It's a shame that a heel turn is likely coming, because I'll admit that while he shouldn't EVER touch the main event, he's tolerable as a midcard face, even though the fans haven't taken to him.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 29, 2013 21:27:42 GMT -5
Miz is my favorite wrestler in the current roster, but if he never won a world title again, I'd be okay with it. But if Miz isn't going to be in the world title hunt, let him actually DO SOMETHING instead of floating in limbo. Let him chase a midcard title. I loved Miz as Intercontinental Champion. He made that title look somewhat relevant and it didn't feel like it was just a consolation prize to keep him busy or a prop to get him over. Or team him with someone. Miz is an amazing tag competitor who has chemistry with everyone he works with. I'd love to see him re-united with Alex Riley as a face team. If Miz isnt getting back in the main event, then use what little notoriety he has to actually boost the midcard instead of keeping him in purgatory.
It's like WWE can't decide whether they want him as a main eventer, a midcarder, or a jobber so they jerk him around and try to make him fill all of those roles at once.
I honestly see nothing wrong with MizTV although the execution of it is horrible. Instead of piggybacking Miz on the top storylines, or just throwing him to the wolves to get his ass kicked, MizTV should be used as a device to get the midcard over. I'd love to see MizTV with Fandango, Ryder, PTPs, 3MB, Santino, or A-Ry as guests. Maybe use it as a sneak peek for NXT talents, and have Miz interview Tyler Breeze or Sami Zayn.
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Post by Bootista on Oct 29, 2013 21:28:45 GMT -5
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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 29, 2013 21:29:31 GMT -5
Make Mizco Inferno his permanent gimmick
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Oct 30, 2013 0:44:53 GMT -5
Make Mizco Inferno his permanent gimmick That was seriously the most entertaining thing he's done since the Awesome Truth broke up. |
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Oct 30, 2013 1:15:22 GMT -5
I'll say this, I'm not a fan of the guy...but I do think he's taken steps to evolve into a better character. First and foremost, he got rid of the Kindergarten haircut which looked extra ridiculous with the suit. But now, he has more of a playboy look to him. Secondly, as much as I think he's cringeworthy...I think Miz is a better face character over heel character. Since he was never really booked as a chickeshit heel, I hated the fact that he looked as competent as he did, despite not seeming as competent in the ring. Whereas a face, he can stand his ground and it makes sense. On top of that, I think he's better off in the ring being the guy that sells. As a heel, this is why he was such a mess to watch, because he'd control 75% of the match and he just could not make it seem realistic. It's a shame that a heel turn is likely coming, because I'll admit that while he shouldn't EVER touch the main event, he's tolerable as a midcard face, even though the fans haven't taken to him. Miz's problem is two-fold. I swear, one of the worst things I've EVER seen was in the lead up to 27 and he gave Cena the Skull Crushing Finale on the outside of the ring. It looked so stupid and was so unbelievable looking that I laughed at it. He looked like a dwarf trying to lock it onto Cena. I'll be honest, I've never liked the Miz, when he comes on screen I groan and I laughed my ass off when Big Show knocked him out, but I definitely have some respect for him because he clearly has turned it around and is at least tolerable to a lesser extent. I disagree with you though. Miz is a horrendous face. Even the kids boo him. I do agree about his heel character as it was booked so strangely. I see Miz being a bit stuck. I think Miz would be best served as a heel in a supporting role. The one area the Miz is very capable of is talking. He'd be a better Brad Maddox than Brad Maddox. His current face run is horrible whereas his heel role had some real highlights, he never should've sniffed the main event. What Id do: Next week on Raw I'd have Miz do what Kane basically did. Have a backstage segment where Miz walks into the office and tells the authority he'll do whatever they ask and blah blah blah. |
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Post by HBL on Oct 30, 2013 1:28:28 GMT -5
I think he might still somehow end up on the side of the authority.
Yeah,got decapitated by Orton and all,but it's the WWE.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Oct 30, 2013 2:15:57 GMT -5
Whatever you think of his current position, I fail to see how it's his fault.
It didn't help when Flair came in to give him a rub then immediately vanished again, which kinda negated the point.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 30, 2013 2:22:16 GMT -5
Whatever you think of his current position, I fail to see how it's his fault. It didn't help when Flair came in to give him a rub then immediately vanished again, which kinda negated the point. I can't really blame WWE for the Flair thing. They never really intended for Flair to be his manager or anything. They just wanted him to make a couple of appearances for some nostalgia themed shows. I think Miz doing the figure four is fine. But it should just be a transitional move, that he only uses to beat jobbers, not an actual finisher. |
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Post by Abdullah on Oct 30, 2013 4:08:55 GMT -5
I think the best course of action for him as a babyface is to cut out Miz TV. I honestly think most fans in the audience like him, but they don't want to hear him talk all the damn time. MizTV is a symptom of a larger problem. I'd honestly believe someone higher-up has it in for the guy. He always loses whatever mini-storyline he gets, he floats from one feud to the next, and he gets verbally dismissed without the slightest chance for retaliation. I'm pretty sure that's a method to kill anyone's heat. I get that Miz isn't liked around here, but if Bryan were booked like this then not even the most optimistic posters could spin it to something positive. They've been stomping on Miz's relevancy to where I honestly doubt he'll regain it anytime soon. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 30, 2013 4:35:05 GMT -5
Sometimes I wish WWE would just end Miz's suffering. No more putting him on the spot just to humiliate him. Just officially demote him and let him have fun and be free as an "irrelevant" midcarder. I'd rather watch Miz hamming it up in ridiculous comedy segments than watch him get his ass kicked week in and week out only for it to lead nowhere.
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Post by pepsitwist on Oct 30, 2013 4:43:19 GMT -5
Impact Zone.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Oct 30, 2013 4:59:46 GMT -5
Turn him heel again and team him with Bo Dallas as the "World's Greatest Wrestlers"
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Oct 30, 2013 5:21:42 GMT -5
I'd honestly believe someone higher-up has it in for the guy. He always loses whatever mini-storyline he gets, he floats from one feud to the next, and he gets verbally dismissed without the slightest chance for retaliation. I'm pretty sure that's a method to kill anyone's heat. I wouldn't be surprised if there's this feeling backstage that they put a lot of time and effort into building him up as a star and it didn't pay off, so now what little crediblity Miz's got left is going to be used as a punching bag to elevate the guys who kick his ass, physically and verbally. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 30, 2013 5:53:00 GMT -5
Hopefully, away
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Oct 30, 2013 8:01:26 GMT -5
Turn him heel again and team him with Bo Dallas as the "World's Greatest Wrestlers" Great idea. But don't turn him heel, just pretend he and Bo are faces and have Cole be super excited by the duo. The ensuing heat created by this association could melt medium sized countries. |
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