BigBadZ
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Post by BigBadZ on Nov 9, 2013 5:35:32 GMT -5
Hero didn't want it bad enough. If he did, he wouldn't have a couch potato physique. Throw in his underwhelming charisma and mic skills, and I applaud WWE on trimming the fat (no pun intended). I don't believe Hero is, or ever was, anywhere near one of the top 50 wrestlers in the U.S., and he never deserved a spot in WWE. It was always clear to me that Cesaro was the star of the team. Sure enough, Cesaro's a significant player in WWE while Hero's on his way back to working the high school gyms in towns with five-digit populations. TNA might give him a look due his name value, but I hope they don't.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 5:44:59 GMT -5
He sucked big time in NXT. If you didn't know who he was prior to NXT you'd think that he's just another boring wrestler with no charisma who will never make it and is just wasting a spot in developmental.
In what 2 years (?) he had a couple interesting weeks in the feud vs Regal.
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Post by machomuta on Nov 9, 2013 5:51:42 GMT -5
No big loss. About time they fired his lazy ass.
Now he can go back to being a Indy God in PWG.
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Post by Crusty Ruffles on Nov 9, 2013 6:00:11 GMT -5
The amount of hate in the last few pages is really surprising. Sorry he had to come up through the indies before he got signed....?
I think what this amounts to is something fairly similar to a Colt Cabana situation. Hero had his loyal fans that were absolutely thrilled that he got signed. There's no question he was talented (obvious by the deal in the first place) and was looked at by a good chunk of people as a sure thing. But once he got into the WWE system, for whatever reason, he was not a fit. It's not a lack of talent, drive, or anything like that. Sometimes things just don't click. It's a shame, but it's probably just not meant to be. Now that he's been in the WWE system, he can charge a little more making the indie rounds and maybe get a spot over in Japan again. It's not the WWE, but not the end of the world either.
To me, it's just a shame. I think he could've done some good things on the main roster.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Nov 9, 2013 6:09:28 GMT -5
Remember, if you ever fail at something...you just didn't want it bad enough. If you got a crappy hand in the genetics game, remember, you just didn't want it bad enough. Triple h should use that in a promo.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 9, 2013 6:11:30 GMT -5
Remember, if you ever fail at something...you just didn't want it bad enough. If you got a crappy hand in the genetics game, remember, you just didn't want it bad enough. Triple h should use that in a promo. If you didn't knock up the right woman, you just didn't want it bad enough.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 6:30:09 GMT -5
I'm familiar with his work pre-WWE contract and the guy was damned good if a bit inconsistent in match quality, which I somewhat expect outside WWE due to differing styles in different companies/countries, so that's not necessarily a criticism of great proportions.
However as a fan...he wasn't what he once was whilst in NXT. I don't care to speculate on if he was "too fat for a wrestler" or not (on this weeks NXT he wasn't, he looked much better) as that doesn't really bother me, but the quality of his promos, his matches, hell, even his name were all shadows of his former greatness.
I've not read through all of the thread so I apologise if someone's already said it but maybe he simply wasn't built for the WWE, in match style or in personality or something. It did feel like his run in NXT bar the general everyone-has-a-good-day-with-Regal moments was pretty terrible. On a roster with the likes of SJK/Graves & Sami Zayn and a few damned good gimmick guys I'm not actually that surprised.
Is it a pity it didn't work out? Yeah, but can anyone honestly say that he'll be missed from the NXT TV show? That's not a criticism of Hero given I've seen the guy live and travelled to see him specifically but clearly something wasn't working out, it showed in the ring, and seemed to be telling in his absence from TV.
Will be glad to see him working through stuff on the independents again though, I'm sure he'll show the form he did pre-WWE.
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Post by bearned on Nov 9, 2013 6:34:00 GMT -5
I don't think WWE were ever going to use him properly so it's for the best I guess.
Kind of sucks as I think he has the talent to be a solid addition to the main roster.
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on Nov 9, 2013 7:00:16 GMT -5
He already was athletic enough. There's no reason for the gym bullshit So, no cool ass rolling elbows on the main roster?
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Post by 543Y2J on Nov 9, 2013 7:08:16 GMT -5
It hasn't been right since they gave him the new name when he first got to the company. It's a shame that he probably won't make it to the heights of Punk, Bryan, Rollins, Ambrose, Cesaro or even Zayn now, along with his other friends in the company. Different circumstances yes, but can we add Hero in with McGuinness as incredible talents who wanted it but just had cases of bad luck?
He had some brilliant matches in ROH/PWG, that I absolutely love. vs Rollins (specifically at Bitter friends, Stiffer Enemies 2 a great ROH event), vs Bryan (Hell Freezees Over), ofcourse the all out brawls with Punk in IWA MS, the Human Tornado feud in PWG, the list goes on and on. Yes even though I am a fan of the guy, I would not rate him as high as Bryan or Punk (in indies) but he is still an incredible talent that has been wasted and misused. Yes part of the blame could be said to go to him, as his KOR tag partner Cesaro is doing amazingly, but I think it is a two way street as to how far you can go in the WWE, up to you and them.
I am looking forward to his PWG return! Great event to come back at!
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Nov 9, 2013 7:18:13 GMT -5
Hero didn't want it bad enough. If he did, he wouldn't have a couch potato physique. Throw in his underwhelming charisma and mic skills, and I applaud WWE on trimming the fat (no pun intended). I don't believe Hero is, or ever was, anywhere near one of the top 50 wrestlers in the U.S., and he never deserved a spot in WWE. It was always clear to me that Cesaro was the star of the team. Sure enough, Cesaro's a significant player in WWE while Hero's on his way back to working the high school gyms in towns with five-digit populations. TNA might give him a look due his name value, but I hope they don't. You know, for someone called Wrestling Love, you're showing a lot of hate right here. Anyway, this sucks. Always enjoyed his Indy work, and his stuff on NXT with Regal was fantastic!
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Nov 9, 2013 7:29:23 GMT -5
I just woke up to this thread.
Out of alllllllllllllll of the booboos wwe has out on the screen over the years whether it be roid monsters or blobs or immobile goofs or green as grass never-gonna-bes, they release Chris f***ing Hero for what has got to be one of the dumbest f***ing reasons in the world when he is light years beyond the half the current roster and has had awesome matches with the guys they feature on the tv heavily.
Not gonna say I'm pissed but I'm tired of this bullshit.
I had a slight feeling that even with all of the mess reportedly going on with Ryback I bet Vince and Co were having a circle jerk during that Cena and Ryback match wishing that everybody was built like that and the crowd would eat it up every week.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 9, 2013 7:38:19 GMT -5
Really hope we don't get hundreds of "He coulda been the next (Blank)!" comments now. This....could get ugly. Man, a wrestler other people liked was released and they're upset about it; I hope you can survive. Gee whiz, touchy.
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on Nov 9, 2013 7:42:47 GMT -5
in WWE
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 9, 2013 7:46:19 GMT -5
in WWE Somebody photoshop Triple H's face and a Sledgehammer in there.
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Post by ratetankmark on Nov 9, 2013 8:00:25 GMT -5
I wonder why the wrestling fan is stereotyped with "Whine, Cry, Bitch, Moan, Whine and Cry!" If some people can insult Heroes fanbase I think this doesn't seem that bad.
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Post by Steveweiser on Nov 9, 2013 8:03:13 GMT -5
Credit: PWInsider.com
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on Nov 9, 2013 8:08:09 GMT -5
I i i think there were tears in my eyes while i was making this
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Post by Hawk Hart on Nov 9, 2013 8:14:01 GMT -5
I watched NXT last night and though Hero had a great match and looked great so this is a real surprise. This sucks since I was a huge fan of the guy in his ROH/PWG days but he'll land on his feet.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 9, 2013 8:20:15 GMT -5
Kind of new this was coming eventually when he disappeared and the photos of him wearing indy-esque tights. Good talent but hehas openly stated how much he hates the gym.
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