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Post by Essential1 on Nov 9, 2013 8:22:16 GMT -5
What's Thor Thunder doing in the Impact zone?
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Post by 543Y2J on Nov 9, 2013 8:25:33 GMT -5
I just woke up to this thread. Out of alllllllllllllll of the booboos wwe has out on the screen over the years whether it be roid monsters or blobs or immobile goofs or green as grass never-gonna-bes, they release Chris f***ing Hero for what has got to be one of the dumbest f***ing reasons in the world when he is light years beyond the half the current roster and has had awesome matches with the guys they feature on the tv heavily. Not gonna say I'm pissed but I'm tired of this bullshit. I had a slight feeling that even with all of the mess reportedly going on with Ryback I bet Vince and Co were having a circle jerk during that Cena and Ryback match wishing that everybody was built like that and the crowd would eat it up every week. Yes! Exactly! Summerslam Axxess match featuring Eva Marie www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3HuqrrRjP0I know the Divas and Male wrestlers have different variables to them on who get's to the main roster or not, how far they go, in ring etc etc, but the fact that EVA MARIE is still hired by this company and is fast tracked to the main roster/given a win on Raw, while being green as f***, having no in ring experience, passion/drive for the business etc, infuriates me. While at the same time Hero has spent 10+ years in the indies honing his craft working for a burger and a beer, sleeping god knows where and becoming a quality in ring talent/overall talent for the most part...only to get released. It's just insane!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 8:37:52 GMT -5
I just woke up to this thread. Out of alllllllllllllll of the booboos wwe has out on the screen over the years whether it be roid monsters or blobs or immobile goofs or green as grass never-gonna-bes, they release Chris f***ing Hero for what has got to be one of the dumbest f***ing reasons in the world when he is light years beyond the half the current roster and has had awesome matches with the guys they feature on the tv heavily. Not gonna say I'm pissed but I'm tired of this bullshit. I had a slight feeling that even with all of the mess reportedly going on with Ryback I bet Vince and Co were having a circle jerk during that Cena and Ryback match wishing that everybody was built like that and the crowd would eat it up every week. Yes! Exactly! Summerslam Axxess match featuring Eva Marie www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3HuqrrRjP0I know the Divas and Male wrestlers have different variables to them on who get's to the main roster or not, how far they go, in ring etc etc, but the fact that EVA MARIE is still hired by this company and is fast tracked to the main roster/given a win on Raw, while being green as f***, having no in ring experience, passion/drive for the business etc, infuriates me. While at the same time Hero has spent 10+ years in the indies honing his craft working for a burger and a beer, sleeping god knows where and becoming a quality in ring talent/overall talent for the most part...only to get released. It's just insane! Yeah but to be fair... Eva Marie's boobies > Chris Hero's boobies
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 9, 2013 8:39:48 GMT -5
Completely unrelated to the topic at hand, but... That was what people were blowing up about when that happened? I mean, I agree that she has no place in a match situation until she gets MUCH further training, but... I'll be honest, I'm not really seeing a botch there. Poor execution, yes, but no botch. I hadn't actually seen that until now, so I was expecting to see her trying to pin Tamina on her stomach or something.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 9, 2013 8:49:13 GMT -5
Completely unrelated to the topic at hand, but... That was what people were blowing up about when that happened? I mean, I agree that she has no place in a match situation until she gets MUCH further training, but... I'll be honest, I'm not really seeing a botch there. Poor execution, yes, but no botch. I hadn't actually seen that until now. I think the 'botch' is that she won over someone slightly better than her or something.
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Post by Juice on Nov 9, 2013 8:49:14 GMT -5
Hate to be this guy. But I really hope TNA gives him a shot. I haven't watched that promotion much since Hogan era began, but with the supposed reboot and selling rumors. A guy like Hero should be someone they bring in and build the company around.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 9, 2013 8:50:41 GMT -5
Hate to be this guy. But I really hope TNA gives him a shot. I haven't watched that promotion much since Hogan era began, but with the supposed reboot and selling rumors. A guy like Hero should be someone they bring in and build the company around. As long as they have guys like Hardy and Styles. That ain't happening. Hero would be a solid guy on the roster but I don't think he's a 'build the company around him' guy.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Nov 9, 2013 8:51:47 GMT -5
Completely unrelated to the topic at hand, but... That was what people were blowing up about when that happened? I mean, I agree that she has no place in a match situation until she gets MUCH further training, but... I'll be honest, I'm not really seeing a botch there. Poor execution, yes, but no botch. I hadn't actually seen that until now. Don't know if you meant to say she had poor execution on purpose being that you are the Excellence of Execution, but lol non the less. To think Eva stayed in the outside of the ring doing crowd taunts to build up to her special and that's what happened is a glorious fail. But the divas discussion is a 30 page thread if it's own.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Nov 9, 2013 8:53:27 GMT -5
Damn it, Chris!! You should had just lifted some weights and none of this would had happened. Without Cesaro to push him in the gym, he fell back to old tricks. And WWE has little patience for slackers and the chronic injured. Speaking of which, is Richie Steamboat still in NXT? I haven't seen him in over a year since he injured his back.
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Post by Juice on Nov 9, 2013 8:57:04 GMT -5
Hate to be this guy. But I really hope TNA gives him a shot. I haven't watched that promotion much since Hogan era began, but with the supposed reboot and selling rumors. A guy like Hero should be someone they bring in and build the company around. As long as they have guys like Hardy and Styles. That ain't happening. Hero would be a solid guy on the roster but I don't think he's a 'build the company around him' guy. My post is assuming that Big names are out of the company if it is to be sold. Though Styles has always been a favorite of mine, it's clear that they never intended him to be THE guy. Russo was the one who pushed him the most. had Dixie really wanted him to be the guy she would have made Hogan and company continue to push him after that terrible Ric flair phase. Furthermore even though I love the early years of the company the most. Styles as The guy this late in the game is the equivelent of having cena as the guy in WWE. Sure Styles and Joe, Ego and Abyss have had amazing matches together, I am a huge fan of all of them. But moving forward they need new faces to build around. That would just be "status quot" Chris Hero can easily come in and get a Samoa Joe style push. He would be a fresh face, a known name and huge deal. easily someone to start building a new foundation for a new direction that is desperately needed.
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Post by mrjl on Nov 9, 2013 9:00:03 GMT -5
Damn it, Chris!! You should had just lifted some weights and none of this would had happened. Without Cesaro to push him in the gym, he fell back to old tricks. And WWE has little patience for slackers and the chronic injured. Speaking of which, is Richie Steamboat still in NXT? I haven't seen him in over a year since he injured his back. I think he's still recovering, back injuries can linger As for Hero, honestly I don't see the big deal. His fans will now get back to seeing him as a top star on the indies. Things didn't work out is all.
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Post by mrjl on Nov 9, 2013 9:04:09 GMT -5
*smashes computer* Umm... if he got released for being "fat" I will facepalm so hard that my nose will break. I mean Vince let BIG DADDY V on our TVs SHIRTLESS. BDV was is freak show fat. KO was is unassuming schlub on the street fat. exactly, when someone who isn't morbidly obese is called fat and their conditioning question the point is that they're not in good condition
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Nov 9, 2013 9:12:21 GMT -5
It says "reportedly" but I cannot find anyone other than them reporting it. EDIT: Apparently some place called Marks4Life is claiming to have broken it. So yeah, not buying it. Marks4Life may or may not be a reputable source.
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Post by Juice on Nov 9, 2013 9:19:10 GMT -5
BDV was is freak show fat. KO was is unassuming schlub on the street fat. exactly, when someone who isn't morbidly obese is called fat and their conditioning question the point is that they're not in good condition IN wrestling you either have to be full on fat to be a star or skinny. It's the in between that never seems to get a fair shot. Not that Hero is fat. Flabby in places maybe.
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Post by Loser on Nov 9, 2013 9:26:26 GMT -5
And here it is! Edit: Ah, already posted. Still, this may expose some fans to PWG, which is great.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Nov 9, 2013 9:33:24 GMT -5
exactly, when someone who isn't morbidly obese is called fat and their conditioning question the point is that they're not in good condition IN wrestling you either have to be full on fat to be a star or skinny. It's the in between that never seems to get a fair shot. Not that Hero is fat. Flabby in places maybe. And that's why I don't want to really dig in to thus issue. Cause the Uso's and the Real Americans are two different body types but it comes down to how WWE defines "condition" and how we define it. Especially when the ones defining it came from the era of traing, praying, and a whole bunch of "vitamins" through out the years. It's not just me being a captain save a hero, but I know when logic is held in abeyance in the WWE Universe.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 9, 2013 9:34:50 GMT -5
exactly, when someone who isn't morbidly obese is called fat and their conditioning question the point is that they're not in good condition IN wrestling you either have to be full on fat to be a star or skinny. It's the in between that never seems to get a fair shot. Not that Hero is fat. Flabby in places maybe. So was Barry Windham in the late 80's, and early 90's, and dude was one of the best and most respected wrestlers of his generation. Imagine how many of the most talented wrestlers of yesteryear, guys that drew huge money, became legends, would have been denied work had WWE or anyone had this idiotic underwear model formula in the 80's. It boggles the mind how many guys would have been rejected for not being "cosmetically appealing." What an impossibly shallow world we live in now.
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Post by mrjl on Nov 9, 2013 9:39:25 GMT -5
IN wrestling you either have to be full on fat to be a star or skinny. It's the in between that never seems to get a fair shot. Not that Hero is fat. Flabby in places maybe. So was Barry Windham in the late 80's, and early 90's, and dude was one of the best and most respected wrestlers of his generation. Imagine how many of the most talented wrestlers of yesteryear, guys that drew huge money, became legends, would have been denied work had WWE or anyone had this idiotic underwear model formula in the 80's. It boggles the mind how many guys would have been rejected for not being "cosmetically appealing." What an impossibly shallow world we live in now. I've seen tons of Windham. WCW 92 to around 94 was one of my favorite eras. Windham didn't look heavy to me.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Nov 9, 2013 9:41:45 GMT -5
IN wrestling you either have to be full on fat to be a star or skinny. It's the in between that never seems to get a fair shot. Not that Hero is fat. Flabby in places maybe. So was Barry Windham in the late 80's, and early 90's, and dude was one of the best and most respected wrestlers of his generation. Imagine how many of the most talented wrestlers of yesteryear, guys that drew huge money, became legends, would have been denied work had WWE or anyone had this idiotic underwear model formula in the 80's. It boggles the mind how many guys would have been rejected for not being "cosmetically appealing." What an impossibly shallow world we live in now. Thank goodness whoever developed this mentality company wide in WWE wasn't around in the NWA and WCW, otherwise they likely would've missed out in one of their biggest and hottest draws in Dusty Rhodes too.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 9, 2013 9:41:48 GMT -5
So was Barry Windham in the late 80's, and early 90's, and dude was one of the best and most respected wrestlers of his generation. Imagine how many of the most talented wrestlers of yesteryear, guys that drew huge money, became legends, would have been denied work had WWE or anyone had this idiotic underwear model formula in the 80's. It boggles the mind how many guys would have been rejected for not being "cosmetically appealing." What an impossibly shallow world we live in now. I've seen tons of Windham. WCW 92 to around 94 was one of my favorite eras. Windham didn't look heavy to me. Because he wasn't. He was rawboned and lanky. He was about the same exact size and build as Ohno.
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