mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Nov 9, 2013 9:45:07 GMT -5
one question I have about hero. I don't watch indies or NXT but looking at his top moves list and wiki aren't an absurdly high number of his moves based off the cravate?
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EyeofTyr
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Post by EyeofTyr on Nov 9, 2013 9:47:22 GMT -5
one question I have about hero. I don't watch indies or NXT but looking at his top moves list and wiki aren't an absurdly high number of his moves based off the cravate? Not really. Well, not anymore. Several years back as apart of his obnoxious heel character he did that for a while, but he's long since abandoned pretty much all remnants of it.
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Post by Bootista on Nov 9, 2013 9:47:47 GMT -5
Sucks
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Nov 9, 2013 9:50:40 GMT -5
So was Barry Windham in the late 80's, and early 90's, and dude was one of the best and most respected wrestlers of his generation. Imagine how many of the most talented wrestlers of yesteryear, guys that drew huge money, became legends, would have been denied work had WWE or anyone had this idiotic underwear model formula in the 80's. It boggles the mind how many guys would have been rejected for not being "cosmetically appealing." What an impossibly shallow world we live in now. Thank goodness whoever developed this mentality company wide in WWE wasn't around in the NWA and WCW, otherwise they likely would've missed out in one of their biggest and hottest draws in Dusty Rhodes too. Well. Dusty himself was in charge a lot of the time in those companies. I think he would've been fine.
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EyeofTyr
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Post by EyeofTyr on Nov 9, 2013 9:52:40 GMT -5
Thank goodness whoever developed this mentality company wide in WWE wasn't around in the NWA and WCW, otherwise they likely would've missed out in one of their biggest and hottest draws in Dusty Rhodes too. Well. Dusty himself was in charge a lot of the time in those companies. I think he would've been fine. While that's definitely true for later in his career, it wasn't for when Dusty was getting started. And, if he wouldn't have gotten the breaks he got when he did, I doubt he could've manufactured himself into a draw later on.
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Sparkybob
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Post by Sparkybob on Nov 9, 2013 9:54:25 GMT -5
I really didn't watch much of Ohno but still sucks when somebody loses their job. Hope he can bounce back and continue to have a nice career in the indies.
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mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Nov 9, 2013 10:00:53 GMT -5
Well. Dusty himself was in charge a lot of the time in those companies. I think he would've been fine. While that's definitely true for later in his career, it wasn't for when Dusty was getting started. And, if he wouldn't have gotten the breaks he got when he did, I doubt he could've manufactured himself into a draw later on. back then I don't think skinny guys had much of a chance as barrel chested was one of the preferred looks for wrestlers. Every period has it's biases
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SEAN CARLESS
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 9, 2013 10:04:08 GMT -5
To me, HHH's only flaw as a possible promoter/businessman (other than maybe Verne Gagne-ing himself into things for years to come) is that he's cut from the same cloth as Vince when it comes to a short-sighted view of cosmetic bodybuilding being paramount to a wrestler's success. Most of the top stars in wrestling were NOT shredded or even that good looking. They were usually average sized, athletic-looking, but mostly personality-driven or colorful. Outside of Warrior (who was a living embodiment of a super hero) physiques played little to no part in most wrestlers success. I mean look at three of the most over guys of the 80's and 90's - Ted Dibiase, Jake Roberts and Roddy Piper. The fact none really had a shape at their biggest drawing peak had zero hindrance on their careers.
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nm
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Post by nm on Nov 9, 2013 10:08:12 GMT -5
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Post by Capt. Internet Darling on Nov 9, 2013 10:15:27 GMT -5
I think it's the fact that I won't see him interact with Cesaro/Punk on WWE television that gets me down the most.
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Dragonfly
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Post by Dragonfly on Nov 9, 2013 10:24:41 GMT -5
Hero is Reckless Youth 2K13: A big time Indy talent that, for one reason or another, didn't work out. It's not anybody's fault, really. It's just one of those things.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 10:28:55 GMT -5
Serious bummer here but it'll hurt less when he's back to the indies where we can appreciate his fat ass.
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"Magic" Mark Hurr
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Nov 9, 2013 10:35:17 GMT -5
I can't help but feel a little depressed that we all needed was to have Hero join the Real Americans so we could see Cesaro and Hero work together. A 6 man tag against The Shield could have been legendary. Not to mention with how the tag division has had steller matches lately.
Or when Reigns turns face have Hero replace him to show The Shield has more soldiers and he could wear the body armor.
I just can't process this one.
Well if Price Albert's journey into Tensai doesn't prove that this can end up with Chris Hero returning as Krishima Hagikura five years from now with Sakamoto.
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Post by Waffel113 on Nov 9, 2013 10:36:43 GMT -5
I'll take "Worst News to Wake Up To" for 500.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Nov 9, 2013 10:47:19 GMT -5
Something must have happened?
Don't these NXT cuts usually come in sets?
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Nov 9, 2013 11:12:12 GMT -5
Hero is Reckless Youth 2K13: A big time Indy talent that, for one reason or another, didn't work out. It's not anybody's fault, really. It's just one of those things. So he's going to get kidnapped soon?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 11:14:16 GMT -5
Oh, hey, I called it. I don't recall there ever being that many November releases either, though if anyone is cut, they mostly do it from NXT these days since its roster is probably twice the size of the main one (if you ignore people like Yoshi and Regal who are still listed but basically no longer exist, and ones like JTG and Hawkins who are seemingly never getting TV time again in their lives). I'd say the only name anyone's heard of who's likely all that in danger of being cut any time soon is Ohno. But yeah, I have basically no exposure to this guy outside of like half of a tag match he and Cesaro had with the World's Greatest Tag Team so I have no real opinion on this one way or the other, but it's not terribly surprising.
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Post by Ape Boy on Nov 9, 2013 11:15:23 GMT -5
Remember, if you ever fail at something...you just didn't want it bad enough. If you got a crappy hand in the genetics game, remember, you just didn't want it bad enough. Right, because it was clearly genetics, and not a sub-par diet and workout regimen, which led to Hero's comparatively awful body. It was completely beyond his control. That poor man.
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Post by rybackrulez on Nov 9, 2013 11:16:55 GMT -5
So basically Devitt found his new bullett club member
Chris Hero will do just fine working new japan, aaa, and the indies.
I don't want to see him in tna.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 9, 2013 11:19:18 GMT -5
Passively calling others with a different opinion the "douche squad" makes you no better than these people. I loved watching Hero and was thrilled when he was signed. I'm upset he's released the way he is, because that's his livelihood that got tossed out because he wasn't WWE sculpted. But being cynical isn't solving problems. Making condescending comments about the guy's fans being upset (not his release mind you; but finding pleasure in others dismay over it) is the very definition of douche. Even if I didn't care for someone getting released, I wouldn't mock the guy's fans. That's just being an asshole. Seriously, what enjoyment do people get out of that? "f*** THE INDIES! HE HEADLINED BINGO HALLS BUT COULDN'T"T CUT IN THE WWE UNIVERSE!!! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!" Does that make you feel good? Spoiler alert: it just makes you look like a petty dick. If you don't like the guy but just say that and move the f*** on.
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