deancubed
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Post by deancubed on Nov 14, 2013 13:17:52 GMT -5
There is a huge difference between "being a bust" and "not being able to hold the spot as 'top guy with the WWE Championship'. Miz is far from a bust. Just because he might not be WWE Champ material with the stacked roster they have right now, doesn't mean his career means nothing. He has had a better career than most in the WWE and he's far from retirement. You can't call any former WWE Champ a bust, because their work and career got them into that position in the first place. Miz was a former US, Intercontinental, and multi-time Tag champ before he became a main event WWE Champ. And he will likely be in the Hall of Fame someday based on time served and all the memorable moments he makes as a midcarder. Wrestling is all he wants to do, he's not looking to be an MTV star again, that was a lucky break he had as a kid.
People are already talking about Daniel Bryan having the Hall of Fame locked down already, and that's just ridiculous considering how short his WWE career has been so far. Kofi and Miz are way ahead of Bryan in terms of career accomplishments. All three will be Hall of Famers someday with no injuries, but if Bryan got a career ending injury tomorrow, he'd be another Mr. Kennedy.
A bust as defined by the OP is someone the WWE had high hopes for and then nothing came of them or their potential was wasted. Miz's potential is far from wasted, Del Rio's potential is far from wasted. Both have accomplishments that actually exceed their potential - Del Rio is a former Royal Rumble winner for Pete Rose's sake, Miz has a victory in the main event of Mania against THE John Cena and shared the spotlight with his hero, The Rock. I'm sure even though everyone thinks that match was a huge failure, Miz himself is plenty happy with it, and likely will cherish that memory forever.
A bust has got to be someone like Kizarny, Drew McIntyre, TED DIBIASE JR, Manu, Carlito, half of WWECW, Kharma...
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4real
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Post by 4real on Nov 14, 2013 14:46:36 GMT -5
Nathan Jones gets my vote due to the hype he got before he came in and how rubbish he turned out to be.
Can't believe some people are saying The Miz. The guy became more successful than a lot of fans thought he would ever become in 2006.
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Pushed to the Moon
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Nov 14, 2013 15:08:45 GMT -5
People are already talking about Daniel Bryan having the Hall of Fame locked down already, and that's just ridiculous considering how short his WWE career has been so far. Kofi and Miz are way ahead of Bryan in terms of career accomplishments. All three will be Hall of Famers someday with no injuries, but if Bryan got a career ending injury tomorrow, he'd be another Mr. Kennedy. I'm not even a wild D-Bry fan but I don't know about that. He's has only been with WWE for 3 years and is (technically) a 2 time WWE champ, former world heavyweight champ, US champ and tag team champ. On paper I don't see how Miz has accomplished that much more. Although yeah he's main evented WM and been WWE Champ for more than 5 minutes. And I'm not sure what Kofi has done that makes you rank him so highly.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Nov 14, 2013 15:11:35 GMT -5
They sank a lot of money into Max Moon, only for Konnan to bolt and Paul Diamond to take over the gimmick, turning a $1300 costume into a JTTS.
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Post by Tarik Dee on Nov 14, 2013 15:14:48 GMT -5
Bobby Lashley.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Nov 14, 2013 18:50:35 GMT -5
Can't believe I'm the first person to mention Vladimir Kozlov, they gave him wins over HHH and the UNDERTAKER, put him against the super hot Jeff Hardy, and the guy got nothing, they put so much effort into putting him over and no one here even remembered. The only decent thing he ever did was a skit with Santino a few years later.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 14, 2013 18:55:37 GMT -5
Just because he might not be WWE Champ material with the stacked roster they have right now What WWE has right now is practically the diametric opposite of a stacked roster. They're so desperate for guys the audience gives a damn about that they're using BIG SHOW as the face in one of their biggest angles. Miz's kayfabe accomplishments don't count for much unless he's drawing in interest and money. And considering how far he's tumbled down the card, in spite of still being in his early 30s in what should be the prime of his career, I have to think WWE has decided he wasn't worth the time and effort they put into him. I'd define that as a bust.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Nov 14, 2013 19:23:42 GMT -5
Can't believe I'm the first person to mention Vladimir Kozlov, they gave him wins over HHH and the UNDERTAKER, put him against the super hot Jeff Hardy, and the guy got nothing, they put so much effort into putting him over and no one here even remembered. The only decent thing he ever did was a skit with Santino a few years later. I honest to God don't even remember Vladimir Kozlov. Yeah, he takes this one.
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spagett
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Post by spagett on Nov 14, 2013 19:31:15 GMT -5
I think in terms of the money they're paid and their actual place on the card it's between Tensai and Sin Cara.
Both are on main eventers money, especially Sin Cara, and yet are on the lower end of the mid card.
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Post by Grand Papillon "The Banker" on Nov 14, 2013 20:48:55 GMT -5
Another bust that I forgot to mention is Kronik. They were one of the best tag teams going in the dying days of WCW. They got signed to the WWE, had a program immediately with The Brothers of Destruction, and had a match so bad that they were going to be sent to the minors before they left deciding that working off rust was beneath them.
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Post by tekkenguy on Nov 14, 2013 20:57:12 GMT -5
Luther Reigns. Matt Morgan. Nathan Jones. Kenzo Suzuki. Sean O'Haire. Smackdown had a lot of busts in the mid-2000s.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 14, 2013 22:09:17 GMT -5
Nathan Jones has to be up there in that they paired him up with Taker right away but he was so bad in the ring they had him taken out in a backstage segment before Mania. In a different look, I think Tout was a huge bust for WWE when you hear how much money they invested into it to have twitter come up with Vine around the same time from what I understand in regards to Tout, they got their investment back, so it wasn't a total loss.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 14, 2013 22:12:42 GMT -5
can't believe I forgot Ted Dibiase jr. hell, they gave him a freaking movie and were grooming him for a big face run only to realize that people would rather watch Orton beat the crap out of him.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 14, 2013 22:16:16 GMT -5
can't believe I forgot Ted Dibiase jr. hell, they gave him a freaking movie and were grooming him for a big face run only to realize that people would rather watch Orton beat the crap out of him. Remember when Ted Dibiase Junior was regularly getting competitive TV main events against Cena and Batista? And when Ted Dibiase Junior made Shawn Michaels tap out? And when Legacy split up and Cody immediately got drafted to Smackdown and was back to using generic production music while Ted Dibiase Junior came out on RAW the same night with his dad hyping him up for a new angle and he beat Christian clean?
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Sam Punk
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Post by Sam Punk on Nov 14, 2013 22:25:02 GMT -5
XFL
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Post by Crusty Ruffles on Nov 14, 2013 22:25:58 GMT -5
How about a mention for Brakkus.
Just because.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 14, 2013 22:27:44 GMT -5
can't believe I forgot Ted Dibiase jr. hell, they gave him a freaking movie and were grooming him for a big face run only to realize that people would rather watch Orton beat the crap out of him. Remember when Ted Dibiase Junior was regularly getting competitive TV main events against Cena and Batista? And when Ted Dibiase Junior made Shawn Michaels tap out? And when Legacy split up and Cody immediately got drafted to Smackdown and was back to using generic production music while Ted Dibiase Junior came out on RAW the same night with his dad hyping him up for a new angle and he beat Christian clean? I actually don't remember any of that, which I think says all you need to know I do remember him getting paired with Maryse as some last ditch "please care about this guy" maneuver.
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Post by PrimeTyme on Nov 14, 2013 22:33:30 GMT -5
Luther Reigns. Matt Morgan. Nathan Jones. Kenzo Suzuki. Sean O'Haire. Smackdown had a lot of busts in the mid-2000s. This. You can also add Rene Dupree, Mark Jindrak, Chuck Palumbo, and probably countless others whom I've forgotten to list.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 14, 2013 22:36:02 GMT -5
Guess I'm in the minority but I always thought Cody was gonna be a bigger star than Dibiase Jr.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 14, 2013 22:36:29 GMT -5
Remember when Ted Dibiase Junior was regularly getting competitive TV main events against Cena and Batista? And when Ted Dibiase Junior made Shawn Michaels tap out? And when Legacy split up and Cody immediately got drafted to Smackdown and was back to using generic production music while Ted Dibiase Junior came out on RAW the same night with his dad hyping him up for a new angle and he beat Christian clean? I actually don't remember any of that, which I think says all you need to know I do remember him getting paired with Maryse as some last ditch "please care about this guy" maneuver. I remember him no-selling the Cobra and calmly laying out Santino. I wouldn't say DiBiase was all that bad. He really came out of his shell with the DiBiase Posse stuff. But then the brand split ended and WWE somehow lost the ability to spotlight more than one midcarder at a time.
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