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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 14, 2013 22:39:36 GMT -5
People are already talking about Daniel Bryan having the Hall of Fame locked down already, and that's just ridiculous considering how short his WWE career has been so far. Kofi and Miz are way ahead of Bryan in terms of career accomplishments. All three will be Hall of Famers someday with no injuries, but if Bryan got a career ending injury tomorrow, he'd be another Mr. Kennedy. I'm not even a wild D-Bry fan but I don't know about that. He's has only been with WWE for 3 years and is (technically) a 2 time WWE champ, former world heavyweight champ, US champ and tag team champ. On paper I don't see how Miz has accomplished that much more. Although yeah he's main evented WM and been WWE Champ for more than 5 minutes. And I'm not sure what Kofi has done that makes you rank him so highly. Miz, if you really REALLY want to stretch it, you could make an argument for. But Kofi?! I really want to hear that reasoning because in no realm would I put him above Bryan kayfabe-wise. He's been there longer. That's the only way he beats him out. By that logic, JTG has had a better career than Sheamus.
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Post by tekkenguy on Nov 14, 2013 23:01:49 GMT -5
Luther Reigns. Matt Morgan. Nathan Jones. Kenzo Suzuki. Sean O'Haire. Smackdown had a lot of busts in the mid-2000s. This. You can also add Rene Dupree, Mark Jindrak, Chuck Palumbo, and probably countless others whom I've forgotten to list. I've never seen Dupree, Jindrak, or Palumbo pushed that hard. They were mostly mid-card guys in the tag team division. They never got big pushes as singles stars. Also, they had quite a lot of longevity compared to the guys I mentioned above.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 14, 2013 23:05:49 GMT -5
Guess I'm in the minority but I always thought Cody was gonna be a bigger star than Dibiase Jr. Cody's a guy who my first impression of was completely wrong, because I saw him paired with Dibiase Jr in Legacy and thought he was every bit as boring and generic as Ted, though even back then it seemed really obvious he was a LOT more comfortable on the mic than Dibiase.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 23:07:31 GMT -5
Rikishi King Mabel Mickie James
oh wait my bad... BRACKUS
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Post by Brother-RD on Nov 14, 2013 23:13:10 GMT -5
Warrior. He was supposed to carry that company for as long, if not longer, than Hulkamania. He didn't.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Nov 14, 2013 23:52:53 GMT -5
can't believe I forgot Ted Dibiase jr. hell, they gave him a freaking movie and were grooming him for a big face run only to realize that people would rather watch Orton beat the crap out of him. I remember some the first dirt sheets I read when I was in high school were about him getting a big push after Marine 2 came out, either challenging the Streak or beating Orton for the WWE title at Mania and being groomed as the new face of the company. Good times.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 15, 2013 7:58:56 GMT -5
This. You can also add Rene Dupree, Mark Jindrak, Chuck Palumbo, and probably countless others whom I've forgotten to list. I've never seen Dupree, Jindrak, or Palumbo pushed that hard. They were mostly mid-card guys in the tag team division. They never got big pushes as singles stars. Also, they had quite a lot of longevity compared to the guys I mentioned above. Dupree when he was the first overall draft pick to SD the one year. He spent most of that year feuding with the very popular US Champ John Cena, and was also given time against Rey Rey, RVD, and a chance to make fun of Torrie Wilson when she was the golden girl for WWE still. Having seen Cody's OVW stuff I thought they had set him up to fail when he first got called up. Not that he was a can't miss prospect, but he was heads and shoulders above the other guys down there... and his gear tributes to his dad and brother were pretty cool
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Post by tekkenguy on Nov 15, 2013 9:18:42 GMT -5
I've never seen Dupree, Jindrak, or Palumbo pushed that hard. They were mostly mid-card guys in the tag team division. They never got big pushes as singles stars. Also, they had quite a lot of longevity compared to the guys I mentioned above. Dupree when he was the first overall draft pick to SD the one year. He spent most of that year feuding with the very popular US Champ John Cena, and was also given time against Rey Rey, RVD, and a chance to make fun of Torrie Wilson when she was the golden girl for WWE still. Having seen Cody's OVW stuff I thought they had set him up to fail when he first got called up. Not that he was a can't miss prospect, but he was heads and shoulders above the other guys down there... and his gear tributes to his dad and brother were pretty cool I don't think WWE ever had any high hopes for Dupree. His only purpose seemed to be a filler midcard heel.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Nov 15, 2013 10:59:09 GMT -5
Rikishi King Mabel Mickie James oh wait my bad... BRACKUS Rikishi may have been a bust as a main event level heel, but overall he had a memorable and successful career. The crowd was STILL into him during his last appearence
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 15, 2013 12:38:15 GMT -5
Ted always seemed like he was waiting in line at Target or something.
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Post by tekkenguy on Nov 15, 2013 13:16:17 GMT -5
Rikishi King Mabel Mickie James oh wait my bad... BRACKUS Rikishi may have been a bust as a main event level heel, but overall he had a memorable and successful career. The crowd was STILL into him during his last appearence Rikishi would've worked better as a heel if his history with Too Cool didn't get in the way. I can't imagine how any wrestling fan would buy the fact that a fat dancing guy was the man who ran over Stone Cold at Survivor Series '99.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 22:16:30 GMT -5
can't believe I forgot Ted Dibiase jr. hell, they gave him a freaking movie and were grooming him for a big face run only to realize that people would rather watch Orton beat the crap out of him. Remember when Ted Dibiase Junior was regularly getting competitive TV main events against Cena and Batista? And when Ted Dibiase Junior made Shawn Michaels tap out? And when Legacy split up and Cody immediately got drafted to Smackdown and was back to using generic production music while Ted Dibiase Junior came out on RAW the same night with his dad hyping him up for a new angle and he beat Christian clean? Honest to god, I was watching all that time I remember none of these things besides Cody getting drafted to Smackdown and using his "derrr nerner derrr" music that I associate with Husky Harris to this day. How the f*** did Ted DiBiase Jr. get Shawn Michaels to tap out? Did he try to explain for 9 minutes why he likes tailgaiting or something?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 22:49:33 GMT -5
Carlito is one I definitely feel started strong, upsetting Cena for the US title on his first appearance on Smackdown, and despite some title wins, really went nowhere.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Nov 15, 2013 22:55:55 GMT -5
Rikishi may have been a bust as a main event level heel, but overall he had a memorable and successful career. The crowd was STILL into him during his last appearence Rikishi would've worked better as a heel if his history with Too Cool didn't get in the way. I can't imagine how any wrestling fan would buy the fact that a fat dancing guy was the man who ran over Stone Cold at Survivor Series '99. The idea of evil, dancing rikishi is hillarious and would have been money if he became cartoonishly evil like the big bossman at the end of his career.
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Post by funkycoldmadina on Nov 15, 2013 23:20:22 GMT -5
Marty Jannetty: He gets the big injury angle of late '91/early '92, comes back a year later red hot against Shawn. Beats Shawn for the Intercontinental title. Looks to be on a rival singles run to Michaels. Then, his personal life sidetracked him. Next thing you know, he's forming the New Rockers with Al Snow.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Nov 15, 2013 23:26:31 GMT -5
Can we count the 14 year mission to get Albert over as one? How about: Phantasio, Friar Ferguson, ECW Zombie, Muffy the trainer (Muffy Mouse from Today's Special would be more neat, she would also draw more heat) ?? Big Bossman at the end of his run when he was just "Boss Man" and dressed like Big Bubba again. Public Enemy in WWF, full stop.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Nov 15, 2013 23:27:49 GMT -5
I don't remember her name, but there was a woman with enormous fake boobs who made like one appearance in WWE. It may have been on one of the B-shows with midcarders. I think there surfaced a studio pic of her next to Jerry Lawler. Can anyone find the pic or remember her name? Didn't she appear with the then-heel Oddities (w/Jackyl) on Shotgun or something? Also not sure if she ended up being one of the porn stars the Outsiders had a match with in the start of, you guessed it, the Russo era of WCW.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Nov 15, 2013 23:28:38 GMT -5
Nobody's said Scott Steiner yet? Guy got brought in to huge fan-fair and then proceeded to have two shitty title matches and not even make the WrestleMania card. And I was a huge Steiner fan back then, so it hurt me deeply. I still theorize that he was just there to put HHH over and to destroy another WCW main eventer. Him sucking made that even easier.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Nov 15, 2013 23:31:55 GMT -5
I don't remember her name, but there was a woman with enormous fake boobs who made like one appearance in WWE. It may have been on one of the B-shows with midcarders. I think there surfaced a studio pic of her next to Jerry Lawler. Can anyone find the pic or remember her name? Didn't she appear with the then-heel Oddities (w/Jackyl) on Shotgun or something? Also not sure if she ended up being one of the porn stars the Outsiders had a match with in the start of, you guessed it, the Russo era of WCW. I believe it was on Shutgun, but I can't remember which act she was with, though I thought it was either Oddities, Headbangers, or Kaientai. The woman with the crazy-sized boobs who was with the Outsiders on Nitro was an Asian woman who uses the name Minka. This is not the same woman who was briefly in WWF in 1998.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Nov 15, 2013 23:36:08 GMT -5
Didn't she appear with the then-heel Oddities (w/Jackyl) on Shotgun or something? Also not sure if she ended up being one of the porn stars the Outsiders had a match with in the start of, you guessed it, the Russo era of WCW. I believe it was on Shutgun, but I can't remember which act she was with, though I thought it was either Oddities, Headbangers, or Kaientai. The woman with the crazy-sized boobs who was with the Outsiders on Nitro was an Asian woman who uses the name Minka. This is not the same woman who was briefly in WWF in 1998. It was definitely the Oddities, as she had a "Jackyl me off" t-shirt on.
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