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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 30, 2013 0:52:45 GMT -5
I love his little cocky badass strut when he makes his entrance. It kind of reminds me of how Gangrel used to bob his head as he walked down the ramp.
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Post by nate5054 on Nov 30, 2013 1:01:35 GMT -5
I'm don't have a big opinion on him one way or the other. I do think it was impressive that he bounced back from the Jericho/Rybitch thing though.
I like him better than Shameus FWIW as far as big hosss go.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 30, 2013 1:03:49 GMT -5
I thought he was awesome as a face. Went off him when he turned heel for no reason and WWE had no clue what to do with him. Loved him as "the big guy" and when he teamed with Heyman and still like him now
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Nov 30, 2013 1:21:43 GMT -5
I find the guy quite entertaining, to be honest. That said, I find his skills extremely limited. This is not the type of guy I'd make the face of anything; dude pretty much screams enforcer to me, "dragon guarding the big bad" at best. Even as a face, he'd just be the guy that kills guys for pops.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 1:38:20 GMT -5
Kind of.
He showed an ability to connect with the crowd, got over as hell there for a minute. But, I don't think it would've lasted that long, honestly. He doesn't really have much substance to back it up. Other guys have eaten shit booking-wise and risen from the ashes and been more over than ever. Ryback hit the ground and didn't bounce back up, just hit with a thud and stay there.
As far as him not being like Goldberg...why would thousands of people in arenas chant Goldberg at him, and no one else? There's gotta be some merit to it, whether it be his style or his initial push. It's a combination of both to me.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 30, 2013 1:45:14 GMT -5
Kind of. He showed an ability to connect with the crowd, got over as hell there for a minute. But, I don't think it would've lasted that long, honestly. He doesn't really have much substance to back it up. Other guys have eaten shit booking-wise and risen from the ashes and been more over than ever. Ryback hit the ground and didn't bounce back up, just hit with a thud and stay there. As far as him not being like Goldberg...why would thousands of people in arenas chant Goldberg at him, and no one else? There's gotta be some merit to it, whether it be his style or his initial push. It's a combination of both to me. Ryback has already surpassed Goldberg, and that's without winning any titles. I have a lot more memories of Ryback than I do of Goldberg. I don't remember much about Goldberg apart from having an "epic" entrance and the Streak.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 30, 2013 1:46:48 GMT -5
Kind of. He showed an ability to connect with the crowd, got over as hell there for a minute. But, I don't think it would've lasted that long, honestly. He doesn't really have much substance to back it up. Other guys have eaten shit booking-wise and risen from the ashes and been more over than ever. Ryback hit the ground and didn't bounce back up, just hit with a thud and stay there. As far as him not being like Goldberg...why would thousands of people in arenas chant Goldberg at him, and no one else? There's gotta be some merit to it, whether it be his style or his initial push. It's a combination of both to me. Ryback has already surpassed Goldberg, and that's without winning any titles. I have a lot more memories of Ryback than I do of Goldberg. I don't remember much about Goldberg apart from having an "epic" entrance and the Streak. This begs two questions 1- Your age 2- Whether you ever watched WCW It's one thing to have more memories of Ryback, but surpassed? lol
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Post by Dave the Dave on Nov 30, 2013 1:49:46 GMT -5
Well that's Batista again.....or maybe Mickie James. I'm starting a flame war in 2007 in here! I think Batista had considerably more to offer than Snitksy. Lita's feet and dead babies say other wise. Ryback looks dangerous but he's never hurt Bret Hart or knocked himself out on a ring post. Who's next?
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Post by Dave the Dave on Nov 30, 2013 1:54:35 GMT -5
Kind of. He showed an ability to connect with the crowd, got over as hell there for a minute. But, I don't think it would've lasted that long, honestly. He doesn't really have much substance to back it up. Other guys have eaten shit booking-wise and risen from the ashes and been more over than ever. Ryback hit the ground and didn't bounce back up, just hit with a thud and stay there. As far as him not being like Goldberg...why would thousands of people in arenas chant Goldberg at him, and no one else? There's gotta be some merit to it, whether it be his style or his initial push. It's a combination of both to me. Well people chant Michael Cole during Randy Orton matches sometimes. They chant it cause they think it's cool. He's similar to Bill, but a lot of people are. It's just annoying for people to use it as a slam like A. Goldberg invented power moves and win streaks and bald heads. B. They have been booked the since like f***ing march. He hasn't been like Goldberg at all since then if he was.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 30, 2013 1:57:14 GMT -5
Ryback has already surpassed Goldberg, and that's without winning any titles. I have a lot more memories of Ryback than I do of Goldberg. I don't remember much about Goldberg apart from having an "epic" entrance and the Streak. This begs two questions 1- Your age 2- Whether you ever watched WCW It's one thing to have more memories of Ryback, but surpassed? lol I'm 26 and I've watched WCW regularly up until shortly after Mick Foley "put butts in seats" (although not at that exact moment), and after switching to WWF, I would catch a glimpse at WCW on and off from time to time. I remember the Hardcore Title, David Flair/Stacy Keibler, Booker T losing the right to the letter T, various stables like the Misfits in Action, Filthy Animals (and their Vivrant Thing ripoff theme), Team Canada, the New Blood, the Natural Born Thrillers, and Dusty's ASS, but I remember very little about Goldberg aside from the streak. Well that's wrong, I do have a very vague recollection of WCW trying to make Goldberg into an Austin clone.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Nov 30, 2013 2:00:44 GMT -5
This begs two questions 1- Your age 2- Whether you ever watched WCW It's one thing to have more memories of Ryback, but surpassed? lol I'm 26 and I've watched WCW regularly up until shortly after Mick Foley "put butts in seats" (although not at that exact moment), and after switching to WWF, I would catch a glimpse at WCW on and off from time to time. I remember the Hardcore Title, David Flair/Stacy Keibler, Booker T losing the right to the letter T, various stables like the Misfits in Action, Filthy Animals (and their Vivrant Thing ripoff theme), Team Canada, the New Blood, the Natural Born Thrillers, and Dusty's ASS, but I remember very little about Goldberg aside from the streak. Well that's wrong, I do have a very vague recollection of WCW trying to make Goldberg into an Austin clone. Well he always was a shittier ripoff of Austin, Arn Anderson and George "the animal" Steele.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 2:03:25 GMT -5
Kind of. He showed an ability to connect with the crowd, got over as hell there for a minute. But, I don't think it would've lasted that long, honestly. He doesn't really have much substance to back it up. Other guys have eaten shit booking-wise and risen from the ashes and been more over than ever. Ryback hit the ground and didn't bounce back up, just hit with a thud and stay there. As far as him not being like Goldberg...why would thousands of people in arenas chant Goldberg at him, and no one else? There's gotta be some merit to it, whether it be his style or his initial push. It's a combination of both to me. Well people chant Michael Cole during Randy Orton matches sometimes. They chant it cause they think it's cool. He's similar to Bill, but a lot of people are. It's just annoying for people to use it as a slam like A. Goldberg invented power moves and win streaks and bald heads. B. They have been booked the since like f***ing march. He hasn't been like Goldberg at all since then if he was. Feed Me More = Who's Next Meathook + Shellshocked = Spear + Jackhammer Debuts with a winning streak Goldberg was pretty 1 dimensional, so it's not that hard to have similarities. But, so was Ryback in the beginning. People were chanting that at him from the get-go. There's obviusly something there. Now, he's not like Goldberg, it's just a thing people chant because it stuck. In the beginning though, I think the chants were warranted. It seemed like WWE said "alright, we're gonna make a new Goldberg".
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Post by Savage Gambino on Nov 30, 2013 2:19:33 GMT -5
I like the Big Guy. I find him entertaining as hell. Don't get me wrong, I don't have any aspirations on him completely changing the game, but not everybody has to be the second coming of Ric Flair. He's a good old fashioned powerhouse brawler who's just fun to watch. Ryback's booking might suck, but Ryback don't suck.
On a side note, does anyone else find it hilarious when people just up and decide to label a guy who hasn't injured a single person "careless". I mean, I figure if it looks like it hurt, but it didn't actually hurt, they were doing a good job. But that's just me, though.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 30, 2013 2:23:16 GMT -5
I don't think he sucks, be he's certainly nowhere near as good as he seems to think he is. There are always Goldberg comparisons, but I find him to be far closer to Nathan Jones than Goldberg.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Nov 30, 2013 4:21:52 GMT -5
I liked him as the oblivious bully. Then after a few months they killed that gimmick to pair him with Heyman. And then they ended that after like a month or two before it even really went anywhere. He probably said the wrong thing to the wrong person to get all these pushes that ultimately lead to him teaming with Curtis Axel.
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Post by celticjobber on Nov 30, 2013 4:32:23 GMT -5
I think some of his heel work where he bullies people is funny. And I enjoyed the brief Ryback Mountain stuff with him and Heyman.
And this might seem random, but I wish Bret Hart would've called him a "big bald dummy" at Survivor Series last week.
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Post by repomark on Nov 30, 2013 6:01:46 GMT -5
I like ryback.
I like goldberg.
But which one is better?
There's only one way to find out......
I would seriously mark hard for that match at mania. The only issue is they have made ryback look pretty weak in recent months and not rebuilt him off the back of losing the punk feud. A face turn could be all he needs, but the momentum has maybe now been lost.
I just like the goofy lines he says in the ring, e.g. "stupid", and "finish it", and "done". I miss when he would say something as he pinned them. The best i can remember was: "shark swimming with dolphins".
Random ryback nonsense entertained me, but i accept i may be in the minority.
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 30, 2013 8:46:53 GMT -5
I love face Ryback, but heel Ryback is pretty unwatchable.
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Post by 67 more on Nov 30, 2013 8:53:32 GMT -5
I like the Big Guy. I find him entertaining as hell. Don't get me wrong, I don't have any aspirations on him completely changing the game, but not everybody has to be the second coming of Ric Flair. He's a good old fashioned powerhouse brawler who's just fun to watch. Ryback's booking might suck, but Ryback don't suck. On a side note, does anyone else find it hilarious when people just up and decide to label a guy who hasn't injured a single person "careless". I mean, I figure if it looks like it hurt, but it didn't actually hurt, they were doing a good job. But that's just me, though. He dropped Daniel Bryan on his head outside the ring (has to hurt no matter what) and while he wasn't injured, he really hurt Punk when he failed to press slam him through a table on the concrete and supposedly blamed it on Punk being a bad bumper.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Nov 30, 2013 12:13:53 GMT -5
Well people chant Michael Cole during Randy Orton matches sometimes. They chant it cause they think it's cool. He's similar to Bill, but a lot of people are. It's just annoying for people to use it as a slam like A. Goldberg invented power moves and win streaks and bald heads. B. They have been booked the since like f***ing march. He hasn't been like Goldberg at all since then if he was. Feed Me More = Who's Next Meathook + Shellshocked = Spear + Jackhammer Debuts with a winning streak Goldberg was pretty 1 dimensional, so it's not that hard to have similarities. But, so was Ryback in the beginning. People were chanting that at him from the get-go. There's obviusly something there. Now, he's not like Goldberg, it's just a thing people chant because it stuck. In the beginning though, I think the chants were warranted. It seemed like WWE said "alright, we're gonna make a new Goldberg". I just think it's very superficial, but I see YOUR point. Other people who write him off as shitty because of it....If you think he sucks, cool, but don't say it's because he's stealing the ground breaking character of tough bald guy.
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