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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 12:35:01 GMT -5
I like him.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Nov 30, 2013 12:45:49 GMT -5
I don't think he sucks. I just think he peaked too early and there was nowhere to go but down. I just think it's a shame that he finally hit upon an entertaining character at the same time they decided to bury him.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 30, 2013 14:11:26 GMT -5
A monster like Ryback needs to lay a path of destruction to the world title. WWE's parity booking killed him, like many others.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Nov 30, 2013 14:22:14 GMT -5
Awesome as a bully, fine as the ambiguously gay Heyman guy.
Terrible as a face, but it's just because the WWE shoots itself in the foot by their insistance on having monster heel faces.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Nov 30, 2013 16:08:13 GMT -5
I don't but the WWE at the moment seem to think that.
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Post by SeVeN: #TheBadGuy. on Nov 30, 2013 16:28:15 GMT -5
I currently like the bully character. He acts like a complete idiot dick, which is entertaining to me.
His initial face run...I didn't care for, paint drying was more tolerable to watch than the 8,000 jobber squash matches.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Nov 30, 2013 16:49:41 GMT -5
Ryback, the gimmick, was a victim of circumstances. He should have been the guy to beat Punk for the title, but considering how WWE telegraphed nine months worth of booking by having the Rock challenge Punk at the Royal Rumble, there was no chance Ryback was going to win the gold.
But then the Shield got involved in Punk and Ryback's business. Ryback, if he couldn't ever beat Punk, should have been the guy to hand the Shield their first loss. Maybe if he fought them one-on-one in a gauntlet match at Wrestlemania. But when Ryback couldn't even beat the Shield with the help of mega-faces like John Cena, Randy Orton, Sheamus, Kane, and Daniel Bryan, he looked like a loser who can't even get the job done when he's got the odds in his favour.
And then WWE decides to randomly throw Ryback into a feud with Mark Henry even though he still had business to finish with the Shield. Okay, cool, I guess, WWE wants to give Ryback his Wrestlemania moment by having him beat Henry with the Shellshock... except he LOSES to Mark Henry at Wrestlemania. Yeah, Ryback hit the Shellshock AFTER the match, but he still looked like a guy who is a choke artist in pay-per-view situations.
Then WWE decides to turn Ryback heel just because, because Cena needs to be fed someone to keep him over during the spring lull, and WWE didn't want to risk a face vs. face scenario, and god forbid that Cena turns heel. So Ryback loses to Cena a bunch of times and looks like a total wimp in the process.
And THEN he loses to the Miz by throwing a match because his knee hurt due to Miz working it throughout the match. Whatever credibility Ryback had as a monster heel was gone. He's been coasting as a Paul Heyman guy/midcard heavy since, and probably won't ever touch the main event again if he keeps going the way he is now.
Whether or not some of these things, especially as of 2013, are a result of Ryan Reeves' ego, who amongst us knows for sure. But when it comes to Ryback, the character on TV, he had his gimmick unfairly assassinated over and over and over again to the point that the good will he won with a fan like me in his TLC matches with the Shield and Punk has been squandered.
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Post by fw91 on Nov 30, 2013 17:02:56 GMT -5
indifferent
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 30, 2013 19:01:22 GMT -5
Praise them all you want, CM Punk and Daniel Bryan have never gotten the level of consistently huge reactions that Ryback was receiving last fall, and that's even with the increasingly smarky crowds of today.
Whatever his limitations in the ring and on the mic, Ryback's got it. And that's something to be cultivated.
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Post by BigWill on Nov 30, 2013 19:04:43 GMT -5
I liked his heel character where he went on about hating bullies, but then would turn around and start bullying someone. Now that he's just a regular bully, he's become the same as every other generic hoss that's come through the WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 20:03:16 GMT -5
Praise them all you want, CM Punk and Daniel Bryan have never gotten the level of consistently huge reactions that Ryback was receiving last fall, and that's even with the increasingly smarky crowds of today. Whatever his limitations in the ring and on the mic, Ryback's got it. And that's something to be cultivated. Eh, I'm not too sure about that. I'd say that Bryan at least has had period where the reaction is consistently that strong. Still, it's impressive that Ryback was getting them so quickly after getting involved with main eventers.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Nov 30, 2013 20:37:34 GMT -5
Nah, he's pretty enjoyable. He always has good looking power moves, has great mannerisms and consistently gets heat.
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Post by CM Dazz on Nov 30, 2013 21:32:28 GMT -5
I don't want to see him every week, I know that.
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Post by CubsFan71 on Nov 30, 2013 22:04:39 GMT -5
A Goldberg ripoff with RVDs singlets. Yes he sucks
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 22:52:28 GMT -5
I loved the hell out of face Ryback, but I've always been a mark for ridiculously destructive "monster" faces. All he needed was some facepaint, and new boom period.
Heel, "bully" Ryback is as interesting as stale bread.
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Post by tms on Nov 30, 2013 23:14:42 GMT -5
He definitely has similarities to Goldberg's initial push. Problem is, Goldberg was a tremendously gifted athlete and was more explosive, more athletic, and stronger (at the very least, he showed far greater feats of strength). Whoever said Ryback has had more memorable moments or whatever...no.
Whatever it is he's supposed to do well, other people on the roster can do better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 23:15:41 GMT -5
He's a decent power house, but nothing amazing.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 1, 2013 0:32:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm pretty much of the opinion he sucks somewhere between a lot and a metric shitload.
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