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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 4:06:05 GMT -5
I read through this thread hoping, praying no one would post this. It's my all time favorite bad wrestling thing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 23:21:47 GMT -5
I just saw the below poster with a fake Sheik and a fake Bruiser Brody, and it reminded me of low ultra lame doing cheap knockoff gimmicks of prior wrestling stars can be. Post your favorites (or rather, the ones which turn your stomach and cause you to lose respect for the people involved in promoting them). ![](http://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1477896_10201093788730975_540469671_n.jpg)
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Dec 18, 2013 23:55:10 GMT -5
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Post by willyjakes on Dec 19, 2013 0:18:35 GMT -5
how about this guy as a ripoff of giant haystacks
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 19, 2013 0:56:07 GMT -5
Just wanted to say Jocephus Brody is actually decent and more of an homage to Brody. I mean the guy is LONG dead so it's not like he's stealing his bookings or anything. Brodie Lee did the same thing and now he's in the WWE as part of the Wyatt Family so this kind of thing isn't exactly bush league.
I can't speak about The Almighty Shiek, but there are plenty of wrestlers who you can cast aside if you don't look beyond a first impression. Big Van Walter for example sounds like an awful Big Van Vader ripoff, but in actuality is one of the most over young wrestlers in Germany with nothing really similar to Vader other than the name and size. Likewise people shit all over Kahagas as a Muta ripoff when he became NWA champ. While I agree that he wasn't a great pick for champ the guy is actually a good trainer as I've heard from anyone I've talked to on the subject.
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Post by The Blue Nova on Dec 19, 2013 1:11:34 GMT -5
There was a wrestler in Memphis Called The Hornet which was a rip off of sting
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 2:27:31 GMT -5
Shiek's fantastic and actually has permission from Sabu (Original Shiek's nephew) to use the name.
I would totally go see that card. So much great talent on there. Tommy Taylor rules.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 3:26:07 GMT -5
There's a difference between being an homage to someone, and just using their name when there is no family relationship. If Brody's son had become a wrestler, that's one thing. Brodie Lee wasn't a Brusiser Brody ripoff to the extent Jocephus is. It's a complete copy. Though he might be a good wrestler, he should've built his own name and reputation for himself without being a ripoff gimmick.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 19, 2013 3:40:25 GMT -5
There's a difference between being an homage to someone, and just using their name when there is no family relationship. If Brody's son had become a wrestler, that's one thing. Brodie Lee wasn't a Brusiser Brody ripoff to the extent Jocephus is. It's a complete copy. Though he might be a good wrestler, he should've built his own name and reputation for himself without being a ripoff gimmick. Well, he does have a valet and is a good deal different on the mic than Brody, but it's tough to argue his look isn't as close to the original Brody's as it can get. Then again, other than wear a tank top and jeans how was Brodie Lee that much different? The Bruiser Brody gimmick wasn't all that complex and essentially boils down to a big caveman looking dude who beats people up. Also, say he is just a carbon copy, the original Brody is long dead so it's not like Jocephus is stealing his bookings or taking money out of his pocket. I don't get how it is sleazy if people want to pay to see a guy who reminds them of one of their favorite old school wrestlers. Are all cover bands sleazy too then?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 4:09:02 GMT -5
For the same reason it would be sleazy if Ric Flair were to pass away, and some random indy guy decided to be "Mick Flair" and do the entire Ric Flair gimmick, complete with using his last name and the same spelling of the name, all while having absolutely no relation to Ric Flair, and having never met or worked with the guy. Someone wants to "pay tribute" to someone, they can do a similar character with a different name. Sure, Flair himself was a Buddy Rogers knockoff to an extent, but he wasn't "Billy Rogers," and in that instance he was actually friends with the guy. There's a difference between paying tribute by doing some things similarly, and being a knockoff gimmick, using the same name.
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Post by Fearless The Tank on Dec 19, 2013 13:48:10 GMT -5
Just wanted to say Jocephus Brody is actually decent and more of an homage to Brody. I mean the guy is LONG dead so it's not like he's stealing his bookings or anything. Brodie Lee did the same thing and now he's in the WWE as part of the Wyatt Family so this kind of thing isn't exactly bush league. I can't speak about The Almighty Shiek, but there are plenty of wrestlers who you can cast aside if you don't look beyond a first impression. Big Van Walter for example sounds like an awful Big Van Vader ripoff, but in actuality is one of the most over young wrestlers in Germany with nothing really similar to Vader other than the name and size. Likewise people shit all over Kahagas as a Muta ripoff when he became NWA champ. While I agree that he wasn't a great pick for champ the guy is actually a good trainer as I've heard from anyone I've talked to on the subject. I always thought Brodie Lee was just a fan of Jason Lee's work. I figure he combined the name Brodie (Jason Lee's character in Mallrats) with Jason Lee's last name, and gave himself the look of Earl from My Name is Earl.
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Post by Derk! on Dec 19, 2013 14:01:14 GMT -5
Just wanted to say Jocephus Brody is actually decent and more of an homage to Brody. I mean the guy is LONG dead so it's not like he's stealing his bookings or anything. Brodie Lee did the same thing and now he's in the WWE as part of the Wyatt Family so this kind of thing isn't exactly bush league. I can't speak about The Almighty Shiek, but there are plenty of wrestlers who you can cast aside if you don't look beyond a first impression. Big Van Walter for example sounds like an awful Big Van Vader ripoff, but in actuality is one of the most over young wrestlers in Germany with nothing really similar to Vader other than the name and size. Likewise people shit all over Kahagas as a Muta ripoff when he became NWA champ. While I agree that he wasn't a great pick for champ the guy is actually a good trainer as I've heard from anyone I've talked to on the subject. I always thought Brodie Lee was just a fan of Jason Lee's work. I figure he combined the name Brodie (Jason Lee's character in Mallrats) with Jason Lee's last name, and gave himself the look of Earl from My Name is Earl. Glad I'm not the only one who thought he looked like a giant version of Earl Hickey.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 19, 2013 14:18:10 GMT -5
Just wanted to say Jocephus Brody is actually decent and more of an homage to Brody. I mean the guy is LONG dead so it's not like he's stealing his bookings or anything. Brodie Lee did the same thing and now he's in the WWE as part of the Wyatt Family so this kind of thing isn't exactly bush league. I can't speak about The Almighty Shiek, but there are plenty of wrestlers who you can cast aside if you don't look beyond a first impression. Big Van Walter for example sounds like an awful Big Van Vader ripoff, but in actuality is one of the most over young wrestlers in Germany with nothing really similar to Vader other than the name and size. Likewise people shit all over Kahagas as a Muta ripoff when he became NWA champ. While I agree that he wasn't a great pick for champ the guy is actually a good trainer as I've heard from anyone I've talked to on the subject. I always thought Brodie Lee was just a fan of Jason Lee's work. I figure he combined the name Brodie (Jason Lee's character in Mallrats) with Jason Lee's last name, and gave himself the look of Earl from My Name is Earl. That's what I assumed especially since he spells it Brodie like the character from mallrats, and used the name before he grew his beard out. he had one match in Chikara like that as a comedic face and his resemblance to Jason Lee is absolutely uncanny in it.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Dec 19, 2013 16:30:38 GMT -5
For those not clicking to the Indy thread, there was a company here in NJ that had a fake Golga that they sold as the original. Never mind that John Tenta passed away years before.
And what can I say about Doink and the Patriot that hasn't been said?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 16:39:51 GMT -5
I want to see the 7'1" 500 lb Giant Titan.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2013 16:50:53 GMT -5
I've spent some time reading about Bruce Probanz who I found in the imposters article someone posted. Definitely worth a Google search. He claims to of been NWA World Heavyweight Champion, Claims to of won many local titles and claims to of cracked his skull "20-30 times" Claims to be an Actor also. His professional acting credit consists of a role as an Extra in 2002. Oh god, Probanz...he's not a copycat, but he is definitely full of BS. Another of his ilk is Kacey Dexter Godbold. Crashed the Cauliflower Ear Club gather several years back. You'll find a lot of these guys, the ones that claim to have been wrestlers, but never were, or at least never at the level they claim. Hell, I was just reading an article this morning about famed football player Tom Dempsey, whose field goal record was JUST passed after some 40 years, claiming to have done some wrestling in the 70s, with Meltzer and Irv Mushnick tentatively debunking it. I was always confused about that kind of thing. As a sports star of sorts and all, it's not like it would have been hard for him to get booked somewhere, even with minimal or no training. Hell, at least an "enforcer" or special ref role. Why lie about it when he could have easily done it for some quick bucks? Someone would have probably taken him up on it, especially on an indies level, or in the territory days. It's like if Wilt Chamberlain lied and claimed he had sex with a local librarian. Either it would have been well within his capabilities, or it'd be something not worth lying about.
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Post by NOwave on Dec 19, 2013 18:04:47 GMT -5
I don't know about that. I can't believe a guy like Bruiser Brody would care. He'd more likely be in favor of anything a guy could do to get a booking.
Copying gimmicks is as old as the business. How many "Nature Boys" have their been? (Personally, i got a laugh out of Ashley Flair booking herself as the "Nature Girl") Plus, it's a great way to generate heat particularly if the original is still working in the same promotion. The men can fight over the name or gimmick or whatever, and turn it into a long-running feud if it's done right. The Memphis promotion had various "Kings" who feuded with Jerry Lawler to determine the "true King." Copying a gimmick can be a smart business move.
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Post by ERON on Dec 19, 2013 21:01:36 GMT -5
I once saw an indie show in my hometown advertised as just having The Undertaker on the card. I was baffled. I've no idea how they managed the copyright on that. He was also wearing like 1996 Undertaker gear too. I saw a poster for an indie show in my hometown with the Undertaker front and center surrounded by a bunch of local guys. Not an Undertaker ripoff, mind you, but THE Undertaker. The fine print at the bottom of the picture said, "Get your picture taken with a life-sized cutout of the Undertaker!"
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Post by SOR on Dec 19, 2013 21:21:32 GMT -5
Just wanted to say Jocephus Brody is actually decent and more of an homage to Brody. I mean the guy is LONG dead so it's not like he's stealing his bookings or anything. Brodie Lee did the same thing and now he's in the WWE as part of the Wyatt Family so this kind of thing isn't exactly bush league. I can't speak about The Almighty Shiek, but there are plenty of wrestlers who you can cast aside if you don't look beyond a first impression. Big Van Walter for example sounds like an awful Big Van Vader ripoff, but in actuality is one of the most over young wrestlers in Germany with nothing really similar to Vader other than the name and size. Likewise people shit all over Kahagas as a Muta ripoff when he became NWA champ. While I agree that he wasn't a great pick for champ the guy is actually a good trainer as I've heard from anyone I've talked to on the subject. Kahagas is actually a Muta rip off though. They do similar mannerisms, similar entrance, similar moves, similar gimmick, similar face paint. Kahagas is a massive mark for Muta and himself.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 19, 2013 22:05:11 GMT -5
Just wanted to say Jocephus Brody is actually decent and more of an homage to Brody. I mean the guy is LONG dead so it's not like he's stealing his bookings or anything. Brodie Lee did the same thing and now he's in the WWE as part of the Wyatt Family so this kind of thing isn't exactly bush league. I can't speak about The Almighty Shiek, but there are plenty of wrestlers who you can cast aside if you don't look beyond a first impression. Big Van Walter for example sounds like an awful Big Van Vader ripoff, but in actuality is one of the most over young wrestlers in Germany with nothing really similar to Vader other than the name and size. Likewise people shit all over Kahagas as a Muta ripoff when he became NWA champ. While I agree that he wasn't a great pick for champ the guy is actually a good trainer as I've heard from anyone I've talked to on the subject. Kahagas is actually a Muta rip off though. They do similar mannerisms, similar entrance, similar moves, similar gimmick, similar face paint. Kahagas is a massive mark for Muta and himself. Haha, true enough, but it kind of bothers me to call guys like that sleazy when plenty have redeeming qualities. Also, I think Kahagas gets way too much flak for doing what he was far from the first or last person to do. Then again Kahagas really only ever got any criticism once he had that ill thought out run with the NWA title, which is a whole other jar of pickles.
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