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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 0:01:17 GMT -5
When Khali won it. It seemed like they only gave the title to him to see if he can be a WWE Champion one day. Also one thing that's rarely mentioned that bugged me was when The Undertaker won the Rumble, he's on the 4th match of the card. It wouldn't have bugged me if the ending was something big like HBK winning the WWE Championship for the first time in 9 years but no it was a rehash of last years LOL CENA RETAINS!
At least the triple threat on WM22 was the third last match of the night with the divas match being used as the intermission for the other main event. Plus HHH and Cena had way more build, more then HBK vs. Cena and Batista vs. Taker did a better job building up the match.
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Post by kamero00 on Dec 4, 2013 0:22:49 GMT -5
Raw Supershow era.
When Khali won it, Taker, Batista, Edge, Y2J all held it, and it even when back to RAW for a while. It even main evented WM when Edge took on Taker AFTER Khali won it.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 4, 2013 6:09:11 GMT -5
I know Swagger will be scapegoated, but to me the clear and obvious answer is when the RAW SuperShow started and the World Heavyweight Champion became just a part of the RAW midcard and not the guy anymore. I agree with this. Every world title has had some weak champions but it doesn't kill the prestige. Once the two shows combined, there wasn't even any pretense of there being two separate brands each with an equal world champion.
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 4, 2013 8:18:28 GMT -5
It was weakened over time and beaten to a pulp... then Alberto Del Rio took it out back and put a dozen bullets in it
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Post by audiencewatching on Dec 4, 2013 8:35:39 GMT -5
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Post by Arrow on Dec 4, 2013 9:18:12 GMT -5
Y'know, when you stop and think about it isn't it kind of weird to assign the term "prestige" to what's ultimately nothing but a storytelling prop? The World Heavyweight title (and this would apply to any other title, including the WWE Championship) is only ever as prestigious as WWE wants it to be at any given time, and that's been shown at several points now. Neither Swagger, nor Khali, nor Christian hurt the WHC anymore than Alberto del Rio hurt the WWE title during his two reigns, because neither belt in and of itself is really worth anything.
But if I had to pick an answer I'd say its time as a top tier belt was mostly done when it went to SmackDown!, the secondary show. It continued sliding from there after Raw and SD! started sharing pay-per-views again, and then eventually rosters, because you can't have two top belts in one company.
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Dec 4, 2013 10:53:57 GMT -5
Swagger did some damage to it, but to me it lost most of its prestige when it jerked the curtain at WM 27. A "world title" opening the show... it just rubbed me the wrong way.
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Post by salz4life on Dec 4, 2013 10:57:32 GMT -5
I thought it was when Gotch beat Hackenschmidt.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 11:13:04 GMT -5
Honestly, an argument could be made that the World Heavyweight title was seen as more important than the WWE title when Triple H held it during his reign of terror If anything, the fact that the WWE Championship was on SmackDown made it second-tier. What happened first was the belt was moved to SmackDown, making it the #2 belt. Then the brand split began to dissolve, with SmackDown becoming another show that the WWE has instead of being a seperate group, which devalued the championship. Jack Swagger will be a target, but in his defense, it was bad booking and not helping his obvious weakness (bad mike skills) that doomed him. I still look at Rey Mysterio as one of the worst champions ever, becuase they would stop calling it "Heavyweight"... and Rey lost his invincibility both times. I still look at, for example, the World Heavyweight Championship not in the Hell in a Cell from last year as the tell-tale sign of its importance dissolving into second-tier status. But, on the bright side, we might get the "Jericho Did It Better Championship".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 11:16:22 GMT -5
Swagger did some damage to it, but to me it lost most of its prestige when it jerked the curtain at WM 27. A "world title" opening the show... it just rubbed me the wrong way. EVERYTHING about WrestleMania 27 rubbed me the wrong way. It didn't help that WrestleMania 28 featured an 18-second match when both guys could've entertained the crowd with a 15-minute match, and WrestleMania 29, when Jack Swagger somehow became the #1 contender just by showing up. I love Swaggie, but that was clearly an insta-feud.
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Post by bootytea on Dec 4, 2013 11:24:09 GMT -5
For me, it was around the time Chris Jericho won it. I am not sure what it is about the look he had at the time, but I found it incredibly hard to take the guy seriously. They gave him that stupid gimmick of wearing suits and using complicated jargon!
I missed the days when the World Heavyweight title was given to people with unique characters that were larger than life. The Jeff Hardy/CM Punk feud was a nice feud towards the end, but the division quickly declined soon after. I liked that time period when cruiserweights were battling for the title because it made things fresh.
The Great Khali's reign is up there as on of my most favored reigns as the rage on a lot of boards was intense and they went all out with the gimmick. I can not think of a time that a goat was invited to the celebration of the G.O.A.T. We also got that epic feud between the Great Khali and Batista out of it. Those were good times.
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