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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 8:45:57 GMT -5
Man I'm sorry, but I hate like 99% of the things you post. Oh okay. Well given the level of likes you've received it may well be a popular opinion. I guess I'll leave I know this is probably a joke but don't leave, I disagree with 60% of what you post but at least you get discussion going and tend to try to expand on points when asked. Plus your Raw thread comments are good stuff. If anyone does annoy you on here then use the ignore feature. I dislike a few posters gimmicks/views on here (long term & short term members) but the ignore feature means people can post whatever and others don't have to be bothered by it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 8:49:31 GMT -5
If casual fans didn't care about him, he'd be on Superstars level or a semi regular on NXT He is not doing anything right now. If he really was as over as you claim, then he would be in a feud right now. He is only over in smark towns. Oh yeah, cuz it's not like WWE chooses who to push. It's all down to the fans.... Outside of the top 5-6 guys, you'd be lucky to find anyone a casual WWE fan cares about. How are people supposed to care when all Ziggler does is job? He gets no mic time, no storylines and he loses virtually all of his matches. If we all subscribed to your way of thinking, WWE would never push anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 8:56:58 GMT -5
Ziggler is good at selling, but he can't cut a promo and doesn't have an interesting personality
The best role for him would be a jobber to the stars to be honest, ie the guy who goes over the midcard most the time but is fed to the uppermidcard and main event to make them look strong.
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Post by papagiorgio on Dec 26, 2013 9:00:27 GMT -5
He has above average wrestling skills, but so does Alberto Del Rio. I kind of find him boring. He does remind me a lot of Billy Gunn.
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on Dec 26, 2013 10:37:59 GMT -5
I don't think his selling is good. He sells the way Shawn Michaels sold for Hulk Hogan...and he sells that way in all of his matches. He's athletic, but generic. He does nothing that really, ahem, SHOWS THAT OFF.
And for a personality, what is there to like about him? Unless you aspire to live vicariously through a giant toolbag, which I don't. I see nothing likable about Dolph Ziggler.
To me, he is WWE's best example of an Orton clone, and I don't mean that as a compliment.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 11:00:13 GMT -5
I've been saying for a while that I don't understand the appeal for Dolph Ziggler. In the ring I think he's good, but there's probably about a dozen guys on the roster better than him. He has some charisma, but not on a main event level, and on the mic he ranges anywhere from decent to horrible depending on how quickly he speaks.
Speaking really quickly and saying how good you are =/= actually being good
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Post by Chip on Dec 26, 2013 11:10:42 GMT -5
And for a personality, what is there to like about him? Unless you aspire to live vicariously through a giant toolbag, which I don't. I see nothing likable about Dolph Ziggler. I've been wondering recently about how well Ziggler could potentially pull off a more defined gimmick. He's kinda been the same show-off guy for years now and it feels like we've seen all that Ziggler seemingly has to offer. I think a good thing for him would be to maybe take some time away in the lead-up to Mania (because let's face it, he's not going to be on the show) and come back with an obsession with ski-ing or something.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 26, 2013 18:29:17 GMT -5
The best way I can put it is that though I generally like Ziggler, there's always someone else I'm enjoying more than him. Nothing about him really bothers me, but he's never been in Mah Fave Five.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Dec 26, 2013 18:43:49 GMT -5
There was never any real faith in Ziggler to begin with. One of the most polarizing things about Flair was when he was helped to the back by the Horsmen with blood in his bleach blonde hair agonizing in pai. While carrying his title. That embodied what it meant to be a champion who is willing to do anything to keep his belt. HHH tried to recreate that but deep down you still liked Flair. Not HHH. They kind of had that with Ziggler. It just wasn't nurtured.
I may be reaching but to call Ziggler average is too.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 26, 2013 18:45:26 GMT -5
Parity booking makes everyone average.
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