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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Jan 25, 2014 15:00:11 GMT -5
Can't really say that I watched his videos but this is both unexpected and awful news.
R.I.P
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 25, 2014 15:02:27 GMT -5
Horrible thing to do to his wife. I understand depression, and it's awful that he got to that point, but he still chose to make her go through this the rest of her days.
RIP to him, sympathy to her.
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Post by Chip on Jan 25, 2014 15:07:21 GMT -5
Word. That's another level. The loss of life is awful enough, putting the wife through THAT!? She has to live with it. Terrible. I ask this not to be a dick, but out of curiosity, have either of you ever been diagnosed with depression? Can't say that I have. My issue isn't that he off'd himself, more so in the way he did it. Whilst I can't understand what it's like seemingly being depressed to the level he was, I especially can't understand doing something like that with someone that loves you on the other side of the door.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 25, 2014 15:09:03 GMT -5
I ask this not to be a dick, but out of curiosity, have either of you ever been diagnosed with depression? Can't say that I have. My issue isn't that he off'd himself, more so in the way he did it. Whilst I can't understand what it's like seemingly be depressed to the level he was, I especially can't understand doing something like that with someone that loves you on the other side of the door. No, you can't understand, and to be honest, I envy you for not being able to understand being in such a black pit that nothing else matters except wanting to end your own pathetic, miserable life. I'm just glad you've not been prickish about it, because a lot of other people have been before.
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Post by Orange on Jan 25, 2014 15:13:17 GMT -5
Horrible thing to do to his wife. I understand depression, and it's awful that he got to that point, but he still chose to make her go through this the rest of her days. RIP to him, sympathy to her. Unless I'm missing something, it's not as if he said "hey, honey, I'm going to kill myself. Want to stand outside the door and listen?" I've never been depressed so there's only so much I can say, but perhaps if he had suicidal tendencies before and he went and locked himself in the bathroom, she followed him to try and talk him off the ledge, so to speak. It's still awful that he killed himself, but I doubt he was trying to hurt his wife on purpose. RIP, brother. I can't say I ever watched any of his videos, but depression is a terrible, terrible thing and it shouldn't happen to anybody. It's a shame it does.
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Post by Raskovnik on Jan 25, 2014 15:16:02 GMT -5
Word. That's another level. The loss of life is awful enough, putting the wife through THAT!? She has to live with it. Terrible. I ask this not to be a dick, but out of curiosity, have either of you ever been diagnosed with depression? I have, and I'm currently struggling with it even now, because in my experience it's not something that ever really leaves you. I'm not even going to knock him for killing himself because I've considered it more than once just because of how easy it would be so it would be hypocritical of me to do so, but I cannot wrap my mind around him doing that to his wife. I just don't get it. My thoughts are with his family though especially his wife because that is truly a horrible thing to go through.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 15:16:35 GMT -5
Horrible thing to do to his wife. I understand depression, and it's awful that he got to that point, but he still chose to make her go through this the rest of her days. RIP to him, sympathy to her. Unless I'm missing something, it's not as if he said "hey, honey, I'm going to kill myself. Want to stand outside the door and listen?" I've never been depressed so there's only so much I can say, but perhaps if he had suicidal tendencies before and he went and locked himself in the bathroom, she followed him to try and talk him off the ledge, so to speak. It's still awful that he killed himself, but I doubt he was trying to hurt his wife on purpose. Pretty much how I look at it.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 25, 2014 15:19:26 GMT -5
Of course he wasn't, but he still did it. I sympathize with what he was going through, but he still, intentonally or not, gave her pain she'll have to live with forever.
He still made that choice. And that's horrible all the way around.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 25, 2014 15:22:38 GMT -5
I ask this not to be a dick, but out of curiosity, have either of you ever been diagnosed with depression? I have, and I'm currently struggling with it even now, because in my experience it's not something that ever really leaves you. I'm not even going to knock him for killing himself because I've considered it more than once just because of how easy it would be so it would be hypocritical of me to do so, but I cannot wrap my mind around him doing that to his wife. I just don't get it. My thoughts are with his family though especially his wife because that is truly a horrible thing to go through. The greatest phrase anyone ever used when discussing depression with me is 'depression lies.' And you can get to such a dark place, as you know I'm sure, that you don't believe anyone cares about you at all even though they do - but again as I said in my prior reply, I'm glad that none of us can truly understand having been in a dark enough place to kill yourself with your loving wife on the other side of the door, because that must be a monstrous feeling to have - clearly one so monstrous that Justin collapsed beneath it.
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Post by 67 more on Jan 25, 2014 15:27:39 GMT -5
As a fellow depressive with regular suicidal thoughts, the only reason I don't do it is because of the impact it would have on my family.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 25, 2014 15:35:39 GMT -5
I just want to say kudos to our forum in this thread so far. There are people in here, depressed, formerly depressed (although it's never really gone) and who have never been depressed all of whom are treating an awful situation with class and dignity. Even those who are struggling to comprehend Justin's decision to do this with his wife on the other side of the bathroom door are not getting the emotional place you have to be in, but doing so with respect.
I used to go on about 12 different forums, and I now only go on two, and this kind of reaction is exactly why F.A.N. is one of those last two.
I honestly even feel a little bit better about my own issues with depression that there are places like this on the internet that are a comparative safe haven, because this is one of the places that at my lowest ebb has pretty much kept me alive.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 25, 2014 15:37:02 GMT -5
Really sad on all fronts.
Sad that he (apparently) fell into such a deep depression to the point where he was blinded to the love that was almost literally next to him.
Sad that his wife has to live with the fact that she was on the other side of the door when he did it.
Rest In Peace Jew Wario.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jan 25, 2014 15:45:03 GMT -5
Damn, it just seems crazy. He seemed to have lots of projects. He was making several shows, had just done a crossover with Suede and Linkara and Nash literally uploaded a WTFWIWWY Live video mere hours before his death was announced in which he took over for Tara. It may well be the most terrible thing about suicide, it's almost always a spur of the moment decision. Had the people who take their own lives given themselves just one more minute, they may have realized that they deserve better than this.
I can't even imagine how his wife must feel, being right next to him but unable to intervene.
I would also like to ask people to please refrain from playing the blame game, especially in a thread set up for people to pay their respects. It's all too easy to judge without knowing the exact circumstances. If people who commit suicide acted rationally and were in control of their own actions, they wouldn't commit suicide.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jan 25, 2014 15:51:43 GMT -5
I've not heard of the guy before today, only know about this because PeanutButterGamer tweeted about it and I went to google. When I found out he was a part of the Channel Awesome circle I knew I could find something about it here.
I wanted to post something though because god these are harrowing circumstances though dude. I hope someone's there for his wife, because I can't imagine a more troubling experience to go though. She's never going to get over that. I can't imagine how I'd handle a loved one of mine doing that in the same circumstances.
You never know whats going on behind the scenes with these internet personalities. A lot of the times guys like this crack a little and you can see a lot of horrible crap is going on behind the scenes. If he killed himself he must have been horribly depressed or otherwise mentally messed up. There needs to be more help for people like that out there, but who knows maybe he was getting help but things just went horribly wrong all at once.
Its important to remember that people who commit suicide are mentally ill. You can't hold their actions against them. They're messed up. People like to say stuff like suicide is selfish, but you have to understand that mentally balanced people that understand that kind of thing aren't the people that kill themselves. To be honest... I myself have been on the edge a couple times in my life. I was moderately suicidal in middle school, not as bad as some but I was pretty unstable during those years. Over the past few years I've considered it multiple times. Generally its just a dramatic reaction I have to being overwhelmed by stress, other times its because some shit has really gone wrong for me or whatever. And you know what? Yeah, what keeps me holding on in my darkest hours is the understanding that there are people that would be really f***ing sad if I offed myself. But thats because I'm still mentally stable enough to understand that sort of thing. I've never been driven so over the edge that I forget that. I've been so goddamn depressed that I tell myself that if I could erase myself from history and make it so I'd never existed so my family and friends wouldn't miss me I'd do it, but I don't think I could ever actually kill myself because of them. But thats not judgement on anyone who has committed suicide. Not even this guy, who did it with his wife on the other end of the door. I don't share their burdens, and I don't share their level of mental illness. Again, its because I'm just not THAT mentally unstable, but some people are.
Its also important to remember that it often takes a person with some level of mental.... something to take solace in the internet. I've met some pretty out there people online, we all have. But even the "normal" people often turn out to be suffering from depression and/or social anxiety once you get to know them, sometimes cripplingly so. I myself am diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder, Depression, and Social Anxiety (too personal maybe but I'm an oversharer what can I say) so idk... all I'm trying to say is that you never know whats going on behind the avatar. Everyone's got their shit, and I've found thats especially so online.
Idk why this ended up being a motive to wax philosophic about the nature of mental illness and people on the internet. Maybe because I've sort of been thinking a lot about it lately anyway, because of how unstable some of my internet friendships are. Who knows. This is such a terrible set of circumstances... I just really wish there was more effective help out there for people with depression and social anxiety (that isn't just "drug em till they dont feel"). I just wish mental illness was less stigmatized by society. I wish a lot of things and this situation just brought it all up for me.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 25, 2014 15:53:35 GMT -5
Great post and I respect you for sharing it.
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Post by Display Name on Jan 25, 2014 15:55:38 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with the guy but whilst it's sad, doing it whilst your wife is on the other side of the door? I can't respect that. Word.That's f***ed up.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 25, 2014 16:01:05 GMT -5
I'm stunned. Totally blind-sided by this.
I've been a long-time follower of both Spoony and Linkara, for about five or so years now, and through their videos got introduced to TGWTG site. I saw Jew Wario in several crossovers and their mini-movies over the years and he always came across as such a great guy. I remember Spoony's live Skype vlog about Twilight Breaking Dawn, where he got steadily drunker to the film's awfulness as Jew Wario and Linkara were there to commiserate and share some laughs. He always came across as a cheerful, intelligent guy.
RIP, sir. Thank you for all the laughs. My heart goes out his family and friends left behind.
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Post by Viking Snad on Jan 25, 2014 16:05:57 GMT -5
I ask this not to be a dick, but out of curiosity, have either of you ever been diagnosed with depression? Can't say that I have. My issue isn't that he off'd himself, more so in the way he did it. Whilst I can't understand what it's like seemingly being depressed to the level he was, I especially can't understand doing something like that with someone that loves you on the other side of the door. Same for me. It's quite a terrible situation all the way around, and it would have been even if his wife was away on a vacation or not close to the house. Just adds to the pain for me.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jan 25, 2014 16:10:22 GMT -5
I've not heard of the guy before today, only know about this because PeanutButterGamer tweeted about it and I went to google. When I found out he was a part of the Channel Awesome circle I knew I could find something about it here. I wanted to post something though because god these are harrowing circumstances though dude. I hope someone's there for his wife, because I can't imagine a more troubling experience to go though. She's never going to get over that. I can't imagine how I'd handle a loved one of mine doing that in the same circumstances. You never know whats going on behind the scenes with these internet personalities. A lot of the times guys like this crack a little and you can see a lot of horrible crap is going on behind the scenes. If he killed himself he must have been horribly depressed or otherwise mentally messed up. There needs to be more help for people like that out there, but who knows maybe he was getting help but things just went horribly wrong all at once. Its important to remember that people who commit suicide are mentally ill. You can't hold their actions against them. They're messed up. People like to say stuff like suicide is selfish, but you have to understand that mentally balanced people that understand that kind of thing aren't the people that kill themselves. To be honest... I myself have been on the edge a couple times in my life. I was moderately suicidal in middle school, not as bad as some but I was pretty unstable during those years. Over the past few years I've considered it multiple times. Generally its just a dramatic reaction I have to being overwhelmed by stress, other times its because some shit has really gone wrong for me or whatever. And you know what? Yeah, what keeps me holding on in my darkest hours is the understanding that there are people that would be really f***ing sad if I offed myself. But thats because I'm still mentally stable enough to understand that sort of thing. I've never been driven so over the edge that I forget that. I've been so goddamn depressed that I tell myself that if I could erase myself from history and make it so I'd never existed so my family and friends wouldn't miss me I'd do it, but I don't think I could ever actually kill myself because of them. But thats not judgement on anyone who has committed suicide. Not even this guy, who did it with his wife on the other end of the door. I don't share their burdens, and I don't share their level of mental illness. Again, its because I'm just not THAT mentally unstable, but some people are. Its also important to remember that it often takes a person with some level of mental.... something to take solace in the internet. I've met some pretty out there people online, we all have. But even the "normal" people often turn out to be suffering from depression and/or social anxiety once you get to know them, sometimes cripplingly so. I myself am diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder, Depression, and Social Anxiety (too personal maybe but I'm an oversharer what can I say) so idk... all I'm trying to say is that you never know whats going on behind the avatar. Everyone's got their shit, and I've found thats especially so online. Idk why this ended up being a motive to wax philosophic about the nature of mental illness and people on the internet. Maybe because I've sort of been thinking a lot about it lately anyway, because of how unstable some of my internet friendships are. Who knows. This is such a terrible set of circumstances... I just really wish there was more effective help out there for people with depression and social anxiety (that isn't just "drug em till they dont feel"). I just wish mental illness was less stigmatized by society. I wish a lot of things and this situation just brought it all up for me. Couldn't have put it better myself. Bravo.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 25, 2014 16:11:31 GMT -5
Wow, that's awful and simply out of nowhere. RIP.
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