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Post by Richard on Jan 28, 2014 20:58:42 GMT -5
Heard talk that there was consideration of making Mania a Triple Threat but I don't buy it. Said in another thread that if I was trying to save their asses, I'd bring Vince back, have him sick of Trips and Steph actions and their ignoring the fans calling for Bryan. That he has watched Bryan overcome everything and proved Vince wrong, that he can be face of WWE and WWE Champion. He cannot change the Mania main event but he can put Bryan in a special match, one that Bryan knows all about and that match is MITB. Make it as obvious as possible without giving it away that if Bryan wins he is cashing in that night at Wrestlemania. Bryan and MITB open the show and he wins.Later in the night Orton rolls up Batista for the shock win, he starts to celebrate, closing pyro and confetti are going off when "No Chance in Hell" hits, Vince says he has a major announcement to make, outcomes Bryan who hands over the case and Vince makes the match official. Bryan runs down, hits TKTBC and pins Orton giving Orton and the Authority some comeuppance, Bryan a major Mania moment and you go into Seattle with Bryan defending his title against both Orton and Batista. Yeah it is far, far from perfect but I like it more than random triple threats, heel/face turns (though I guess you can call the Vince thing one) and potential non-Mania title changes the month before. With all due respect, they aren't doing MITB at WrestleMania anymore. Vince could find another way to get Bryan into the match but that route's closed. Says who? They've discussed moving it back every year and had it booked for two years ago before Wade blew out his arm. Plus it's WWE, they can obviously do what they want. |
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Post by RI Richmark on Jan 28, 2014 21:15:11 GMT -5
With all due respect, they aren't doing MITB at WrestleMania anymore. Vince could find another way to get Bryan into the match but that route's closed. Says who? They've discussed moving it back every year and had it booked for two years ago before Wade blew out his arm. Plus it's WWE, they can obviously do what they want. That's true. Still I can't see them doing that. The crowd would spend the entire Batista/Orton match waiting for Bryan to cash in. |
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Post by 543Y2J on Jan 28, 2014 22:37:35 GMT -5
Heard talk that there was consideration of making Mania a Triple Threat but I don't buy it. Said in another thread that if I was trying to save their asses, I'd bring Vince back, have him sick of Trips and Steph actions and their ignoring the fans calling for Bryan. That he has watched Bryan overcome everything and proved Vince wrong, that he can be face of WWE and WWE Champion. He cannot change the Mania main event but he can put Bryan in a special match, one that Bryan knows all about and that match is MITB. Make it as obvious as possible without giving it away that if Bryan wins he is cashing in that night at Wrestlemania. Bryan and MITB open the show and he wins.Later in the night Orton rolls up Batista for the shock win, he starts to celebrate, closing pyro and confetti are going off when "No Chance in Hell" hits, Vince says he has a major announcement to make, outcomes Bryan who hands over the case and Vince makes the match official. Bryan runs down, hits TKTBC and pins Orton giving Orton and the Authority some comeuppance, Bryan a major Mania moment and you go into Seattle with Bryan defending his title against both Orton and Batista. Yeah it is far, far from perfect but I like it more than random triple threats, heel/face turns (though I guess you can call the Vince thing one) and potential non-Mania title changes the month before. With all due respect, they aren't doing MITB at WrestleMania anymore. Vince could find another way to get Bryan into the match but that route's closed. Linda returns calls it an injustice that he isn't in the match and then adds him to it with the power she somehow has. Linda can and will solve any problem |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 23:26:16 GMT -5
It's funny how this would've been a much cooler way to troll the audience had #BadNewsBarrah been number 30.
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Jan 28, 2014 23:57:06 GMT -5
The problem with bringing MITB to Mania specifically in an angle involving Bryan has the same problem that Batista winning the Rumble had; you're going into the match KNOWING the outcome and just have to sit there and wait for it to happen. There's no drama, there's no investment; it's insanely predictable and while YES, Daniel Bryan ends up Champion or whatever, it just seems like unnecessary pandering.
Just have him win the Chamber and wrestle HeelTista at Mania. There, problem solved.
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Post by gnr123 on Jan 28, 2014 23:59:15 GMT -5
This is really the only time I have ever seen the WWE actively NOT push someone who's over.
It's crazy really, you would think the guy who beat John Cena clean at Summerslam would continue to be a vocal point of the show. Instead of continuing to use Daniel Bryan in the Authority storyline, it went to Big Show. Than John Cena. Which makes no sense because the storyline with Bryan never ended. He never got the win, the Authority never got their comeuppance. The heel were basically proven right. THATS why Daniel Bryan should have won the RR, because it would add him right back in the main storyline, instead we have Batista win and the fans are booing him now. Anything from here on out will look like damage control. It could have been so organic, so easy. Now WWE has to make everything look like a mess.
You either add him to the WWE Championship match, or have him successful defend his Championship at WrestleMania. Either/or will work. You pretty much HAVE to turn Batista heel, because him booing isn't like when fans boo Cena. They boo Cena because they feel is character is stale. People are booing Batista because they want someone else in his spot. They run the risk of potentially ruining the biggest PPV main vent in a long time by having it involve a face Batista and Orton and/or Lesnar. Either put Bryan in the Championship match, or you risk the fans chanting everything besides the match. Fans want Daniel Bryan, all of them. This isn't just the smarks who like him, this is NOT a Zack Ryder situation. Mostly EVERYONE wants Daniel Bryan to be WWE Champion. Give the fans what they want, or the fans will retaliate. Again.
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Post by RI Richmark on Jan 29, 2014 0:31:40 GMT -5
With all due respect, they aren't doing MITB at WrestleMania anymore. Vince could find another way to get Bryan into the match but that route's closed. Linda returns calls it an injustice that he isn't in the match and then adds him to it with the power she somehow has. Linda can and will solve any problem Or Daniel can take a page from his mentor's book and do what Shawn did ten years ago: wait for the contract signing, knock out the challenger and sign his name on the contract instead. Since his signature will be on the contract, and the contract is iron clad Trips will have no choice but to let Bryan in. Don't you just love wrestling logic. I'm pretty sure that if I brake into the Dodger's offices, knock out Clayton Kershaw and sign my name to his contract I wouldn't get to earn 30 million a year. |
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Post by Chuck Conry on Jan 29, 2014 2:15:33 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I read on I believe NoDQ.com that there is talks now of even having Bryan win the chamber and taking the gold just to help pop the rating even more for the big show the night of the WWE Network launch. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 29, 2014 3:22:10 GMT -5
Says who? They've discussed moving it back every year and had it booked for two years ago before Wade blew out his arm. Plus it's WWE, they can obviously do what they want. That's true. Still I can't see them doing that. The crowd would spend the entire Batista/Orton match waiting for Bryan to cash in. And Bryan's big moment should not be a cheap MiTB cash in. |
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Post by spagett on Jan 29, 2014 3:55:21 GMT -5
The rumour is now it's going to be Bryan vs HHH at Mania with CM Punk walking out.
I'd like to think HHH will do the job and put Bryan over but I think it's fair to say I have my doubts.
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Post by BigBadZ on Jan 29, 2014 4:33:58 GMT -5
The rumour is now it's going to be Bryan vs HHH at Mania with CM Punk walking out. I'd like to think HHH will do the job and put Bryan over but I think it's fair to say I have my doubts. I'm 60/40 on Triple H beating Daniel Bryan. Trips has no reason to be in a match this WrestleMania, much less with the hottest guy in WWE. Even if DB does win at Mania, Triple H will beat him within the next 2 weeks to get his win back. |
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Post by spagett on Jan 29, 2014 4:50:06 GMT -5
The rumour is now it's going to be Bryan vs HHH at Mania with CM Punk walking out. I'd like to think HHH will do the job and put Bryan over but I think it's fair to say I have my doubts. I'm 60/40 on Triple H beating Daniel Bryan. Trips has no reason to be in a match this WrestleMania, much less with the hottest guy in WWE. Even if DB does win at Mania, Triple H will beat him within the next 2 weeks to get his win back. Or the entire build will be Triple H ripping Bryan apart on the mic, calling him a troll, a midget etc whilst Bryan stands there and takes it. Bryan then beats Triple H will a roll up at Mania after getting battered for most of the match. I just can't imagine a scenario where Bryan comes out of a feud with Triple H looking strong and with a victory. Batista is the only guy in 10 years. |
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Post by BigBadZ on Jan 29, 2014 4:52:36 GMT -5
I'm 60/40 on Triple H beating Daniel Bryan. Trips has no reason to be in a match this WrestleMania, much less with the hottest guy in WWE. Even if DB does win at Mania, Triple H will beat him within the next 2 weeks to get his win back. Or the entire build will be Triple H ripping Bryan apart on the mic, calling him a troll, a midget etc whilst Bryan stands there and takes it. Bryan then beats Triple H will a roll up at Mania after getting battered for most of the match. I just can't imagine a scenario where Bryan comes out of a feud with Triple H looking strong and with a victory. Batista is the only guy in 10 years. Only thing you left out is Triple H grabbing the ropes while pinned but the ref didn't see it  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 5:20:58 GMT -5
I personally think Orton / Batista / Bryan and Triple H / Sheamus are the way to go right now (not that I think they will happen), but if Bryan / Triple H does happen, I can't see there being an ending other than Bryan hitting the full series of kicks, hitting the headbutt (well, unless he's replaced it permanently with the splash he did at the Rumble), doing the full, "YES! YES! YES!" build-up to hitting the knee, then locking in the Yes Lock and making him tap. While it's been rare that he does it, when push comes to shove and Triple H needs to put someone over at Mania he generally has done it decisively.
Granted, afterward he'll likely do everything he can to show that despite that match he can totally kick Bryan's ass. Look at how all of his post-Mania 22 interactions with Cena have gone.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 29, 2014 5:24:26 GMT -5
The rumour is now it's going to be Bryan vs HHH at Mania with CM Punk walking out. I'd like to think HHH will do the job and put Bryan over but I think it's fair to say I have my doubts. I'm 60/40 on Triple H beating Daniel Bryan. Trips has no reason to be in a match this WrestleMania, much less with the hottest guy in WWE. Even if DB does win at Mania, Triple H will beat him within the next 2 weeks to get his win back. But will it matter? HHH beating Bryan on a throwaway TV match on RAW will be easily forgotten. Bryan kneeing HHH's nose off on the biggest stage will be remembered forever. I know that if HHH does get his win back, I'll probably gonna cry like a bitch over it, but like I said, it'll be forgettable in the grand scheme of things. |
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Post by The Lex Espresso on Jan 29, 2014 5:27:22 GMT -5
That's true. Still I can't see them doing that. The crowd would spend the entire Batista/Orton match waiting for Bryan to cash in. And Bryan's big moment should not be a cheap MiTB cash in. What if he wins the MITB and cashes it in BEFORE the Main Event, i.e. Batista's entrance, Orton's entrance... "Ride of the Valkyries". Not only do you then have a triple-threat, but you have an instant opportunity for Botchtista to become Douchetista just by having him flip out when Bryan appears. Normally doing something like this would be a heelish thing for Bryan to do (as it's p***ing on Batista's "dream" or whatever), but given the nuclear heat around the whole thing, I'm pretty sure Bryan would get off scot-free karma wise. |
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Post by BigBadZ on Jan 29, 2014 5:33:52 GMT -5
I'm 60/40 on Triple H beating Daniel Bryan. Trips has no reason to be in a match this WrestleMania, much less with the hottest guy in WWE. Even if DB does win at Mania, Triple H will beat him within the next 2 weeks to get his win back. But will it matter? HHH beating Bryan on a throwaway TV match on RAW will be easily forgotten. Bryan kneeing HHH's nose off on the biggest stage will be remembered forever. I know that if HHH does get his win back, I'll probably gonna cry like a bitch over it, but like I said, it'll be forgettable in the grand scheme of things. Anyone else and I'd agree but this is Triple H, the man who is clearly on par only with Hogan, Austin, and the Rock. If anything, we'd forget about both matches.... And Lizuka #BLM you make a good point but then again we have WM 19, where the social commentary on that match is way worse than this Bryan debacle, yet Trips still won |
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Post by king1836 on Jan 29, 2014 6:09:58 GMT -5
If Bryan win the World title at Elimination Chamber, then I have no problem with him wrestling Triple H at WM30.
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Post by Chip on Jan 29, 2014 6:17:34 GMT -5
If Bryan win the World title at Elimination Chamber, then I have no problem with him wrestling Triple H at WM30. You realise that that would mean they either give him a two week run which pisses everyone off or Hunter contends for the title at Mania, right? |
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Post by king1836 on Jan 29, 2014 6:26:02 GMT -5
If Bryan win the World title at Elimination Chamber, then I have no problem with him wrestling Triple H at WM30. You realise that that would mean they either give him a two week run which pisses everyone off or Hunter contends for the title at Mania, right? I could see Bryan retaining the title against Triple H. |
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