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Post by Some Guy on Jan 29, 2014 13:43:58 GMT -5
Punk might be gone, Bryan went from beating Cena clean and looking like he was going to vanquish The Authority and win the title at Mania to that going to Batista, at least Bryan will face Triple H, and Cena went from main eventing back to back Manias against The Rock (2 highest grossing Manias of all time), to what looks like a Mania program with Bray Wyatt (I like Bray, but that is a huge step down). At least there's still The Shield being booked perfectly. I don't give a shit about a Triple H match, even if Bryan destroys him. Triple H is an old worn out act. He's in a position of power and I haven't given a SHIT about the guy since 2006. It doesn't help that they won't knock it off with this horseshit badass ego stuff. I can only imagine the build to Mania being the same shit we've heard Trips say a thousand other times. Oh...and he'll get the verbal BJ from his opponent though. As a fan, I don't want a consultation prize...I want what I've been asking for for MONTHS. Not later. Now. I don't give a shit about Batista. I don't give a shit about the New Age Outlaws. I don't give a shit about Hogan, Piper or the McMahons. I don't give a shit about Sting. They all had their f***ing time. If you want me to mark for them, put them in the HOF or give them a DVD. Quit with the tired bullshit. Do something new. Do something fresh. Try something different. How hard is that the understand? They booked a MESS. The booked a mess because they were too insistent on their own ideology and ignorance. And as a result of that, I hope their PPV numbers and Network numbers plummet, because they deserve to. As far as the Shield is concerned, I don't expect that to last either. WWE is about as subtle as ground zero of a construction site that a split is imminent. We all know that Reigns will get that wonderful push to the moon that we've all seen before, that is the most manufactured unnatural thing ever, that 3 months after he wins the title, the fans turn on it. I've seen it too many times to really be bothered to care. I missed this earlier since I've been at work all day (still am), but bravo good sir. I'm so damn tired of ancient acts only being used to further more ancient acts or already established stars. Goldust is a good example of how to use a past superstar...he looks better than ever, and initially, was used to help his brother get over as a face. Of course, they've stripped the team of their mic time completely and neutered that, but they once had the right idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 13:44:56 GMT -5
I don't really mind him leaving because the longer that a wrestler stays on TV the more boring they eventually become, and Punk was headed in that direction for me. They really should figure out a way to rotate the main eventers to keep things fresh. I know that it will never happen but it would do a lot to keep the product interesting.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 29, 2014 13:45:39 GMT -5
[Let's say I quit my 9-to-5 office job.. sure, it sucks for my company because they have to take the time to hire and train someone new. But if I quit, I'm likely not just going to show up one day and say "sure this, I'm out" - I'm going to probably give them two weeks notice to find a suitable replacement so I don't end up committing career suicide on myself. But essentially, when I quit - they stop paying me and I stop showing up. End of relationship. Are you a millionaire? Because Punk probably is. So, it's okay to act like an ass as long as you're rich. Good to know. Also, he better hope that money doesn't run low, and that he doesn't get blackballed from the industry and the various profit avenues as "hard to work with" and "unreliable".
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jan 29, 2014 13:45:56 GMT -5
I'm not saying he's right, or it's even the reason...but if I lost a promotion because retired friend of my boss came back and took it despite my being better at it and working towards it all year............I'd be pissed too.
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Post by hossfan on Jan 29, 2014 13:46:57 GMT -5
Funny that he name drops the Ultimate Warrior, one of the shrewdest guys when it comes to negotiating contracts.
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Post by Bootista on Jan 29, 2014 13:47:00 GMT -5
Are you a millionaire? Because Punk probably is. So, it's okay to act like an ass as long as you're rich. Good to know. Also, he better hope that money doesn't run low, and that he doesn't get blackballed from the industry and the various profit avenues as "hard to work with" and "unreliable". You're really Overreaching with that. Yeah Punk is the stubborn type, But I don't see him getting blackballed from WWE, ROH, Or any other Indy fed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 13:47:20 GMT -5
Personally, I can't begrudge Punk leaving (indeed, I applaud it), but he should maybe have at least offered to stick around a couple of weeks and get a proper write-out. Like, have him take the triple powerbomb and punt before getting fired or something, at least give his angle a payoff.
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Post by Boozeman on Jan 29, 2014 13:48:14 GMT -5
Oh please. Punk has been booked better than anyone in the WWE over the last two years. He has very, very little room to complain about anything in regard to his position in the company. If this is a case where he's being a baby and pouting because WWE won't let him do the last thing on his wrestling bucket list (main eventing Wrestlemania) then that's just sad. Yeah, working hurt sucks, but everyone in WWE does it. Yeah, working for a company that has its head up its ass sucks, but how many of us here have to go into a job we hate every day? That's kind of my whole point. Buying into this theory that it's OK to just quit and go home when things aren't going exactly your way is a joke. Guy had to stick it out a few more months and he could have been done forever. Instead he screws over the company and many, many fans by doing what he did. Shocks me that anyone would defend that. So basically what you are saying is that if you were working injured, in a company you hate for their asinine booking decisions, where your talents have been wasted for the past year (winning matches does not qualify as having been booked well, not when you've been stuck in uninteresting, monotonous feuds) and you've been smart and saved enough money that you can retire to a life of relative luxury you wouldn't quit? If I had the money to quit a job I hate, I'd do it in a heartbeat. And don't trot out the "he owes the fans" line, he owes the fans nothing. He's given us an inordinate amount of entertainment for the 12+ years I've had the fortune to watch him. You're basically asking me to say "yes, it is OK to take your ball and go home when you're unhappy with work." That's kind of my whole point is that no, that is really not OK. It's childish and unprofessional. And you're wrong, he actually does owe the fans. He's contractually obligated to appear at shows until July and now he's not doing it. This guy is one of the top three most popular wrestlers in the company and there's going to be.. what, 80,000 fans at Wrestlemania? You don't think there's a good chunk of that crowd who spent all that money on tickets and travel arrangements primarily to see him? That's not even mentioning people going to upcoming RAW/Smackdowns/House Shows expecting to see him. Don't even try with the stuff about him being booked poorly. That's not going to get far with me. Guy just single handedly ran through the top heel entity in the company in The Shield, a group not even John Cena could stop. Yeah, he's really getting screwed over. He's been the most protected guy in the freaking company.
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Jan 29, 2014 13:49:55 GMT -5
So if he did QUIT so to speak, couldn't he get the pants sued off him and turn into a new Ultimate Warrior-like pariah? Does he want to induct Warrior so badly that he wanted to turn into him?
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 29, 2014 13:50:20 GMT -5
So, it's okay to act like an ass as long as you're rich. Good to know. Also, he better hope that money doesn't run low, and that he doesn't get blackballed from the industry and the various profit avenues as "hard to work with" and "unreliable". You're really Overreaching with that. Yeah Punk is the stubborn type, But I don't see him getting blackballed from WWE, ROH, Or any other Indy fed. Except it happened with Low Ki, and if what Gabe posted before is true, Punk is not interested in the indies anymore, which leaves him very little options if he ends up burning this bridge.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 13:51:27 GMT -5
Are you a millionaire? Because Punk probably is. So, it's okay to act like an ass as long as you're rich. Good to know. Also, he better hope that money doesn't run low, and that he doesn't get blackballed from the industry and the various profit avenues as "hard to work with" and "unreliable". It's not okay, but the mention in that post of 'career suicide' doesn't really ring true when you can live out the rest of your life without one and still be financially secure. For any of us schmoes, we'd have to find a new job pronto or we'd be out on the streets. It is douchey of him to do so, but if all goes wrong financially, he has only himself to blame. And the WWE would have him back anyway because they don't know any better (see Ric Flair).
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Post by Dub H on Jan 29, 2014 13:52:28 GMT -5
To be fair if i was in a company where the boss best Buddies and favorites kept getting all opportunities and big things.I would probably quit too.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Jan 29, 2014 13:54:11 GMT -5
So basically what you are saying is that if you were working injured, in a company you hate for their asinine booking decisions, where your talents have been wasted for the past year (winning matches does not qualify as having been booked well, not when you've been stuck in uninteresting, monotonous feuds) and you've been smart and saved enough money that you can retire to a life of relative luxury you wouldn't quit? If I had the money to quit a job I hate, I'd do it in a heartbeat. And don't trot out the "he owes the fans" line, he owes the fans nothing. He's given us an inordinate amount of entertainment for the 12+ years I've had the fortune to watch him. You're basically asking me to say "yes, it is OK to take your ball and go home when you're unhappy with work." That's kind of my whole point is that no, that is really not OK. It's childish and unprofessional. And you're wrong, he actually does owe the fans. He's contractually obligated to appear at shows until July and now he's not doing it. This guy is one of the top three most popular wrestlers in the company and there's going to be.. what, 80,000 fans at Wrestlemania? You don't think there's a good chunk of that crowd who spent all that money on tickets and travel arrangements primarily to see him? That's not even mentioning people going to upcoming RAW/Smackdowns/House Shows expecting to see him. Don't even try with the stuff about him being booked poorly. That's not going to get far with me. Guy just single handedly ran through the top heel entity in the company in The Shield, a group not even John Cena could stop. Yeah, he's really getting screwed over. He's been the most protected guy in the freaking company. So since you chose to completely ignore all my points I'm going to have to assume you wouldn't quit. That either makes you a saint or a glutton for punishment. Either way it's not something I could do so I'm not going to make myself a hypocrite for criticising Punk for something I'd have done myself. It sucks for the fans who won't get to see him, it does but he's given them his all for 12 years, he owes them nothing. The poorly booked stuff, John Cena has been poorly booked for the past half a decade and he is the most protected guy in the company. I doubt Punk would have objected to taking a few more losses if it had meant he was put in actually interesting storylines. Since 'Mania last year he has had ONE interesting feud and that was with Lesnar, and it only lasted a month. To me, that's sucky booking.
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Post by kidglov3s on Jan 29, 2014 13:54:33 GMT -5
To be fair if i was in a company where the boss best Buddies and favorites kept getting all opportunities and big things.I would probably quit too. Yeah let's not act like if we applied standard business etiquette to WWE they'd come out smelling like a rose.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 29, 2014 13:55:22 GMT -5
To be fair if i was in a company where the boss best Buddies and favorites kept getting all opportunities and big things.I would probably quit too. Which is ironic, considering Punk's apparent justified reason for leaving is about him and his own buddies not getting all the opportunities and big things.
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Post by Error on Jan 29, 2014 13:55:27 GMT -5
So if he did QUIT so to speak, couldn't he get the pants sued off him and turn into a new Ultimate Warrior-like pariah? Does he want to induct Warrior so badly that he wanted to turn into him? WWE could probably go after him for breech of contract but I sincerely doubt they'd take an active deal to court and take the chance of a judge ripping their contracts to shreds.
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Post by Boozeman on Jan 29, 2014 13:56:10 GMT -5
So, it's okay to act like an ass as long as you're rich. Good to know. Also, he better hope that money doesn't run low, and that he doesn't get blackballed from the industry and the various profit avenues as "hard to work with" and "unreliable". It's not okay, but the mention in that post of 'career suicide' doesn't really ring true when you can live out the rest of your life without one and still be financially secure. For any of us schmoes, we'd have to find a new job pronto or we'd be out on the streets. It is douchey of him to do so, but if all goes wrong financially, he has only himself to blame. And the WWE would have him back anyway because they don't know any better (see Ric Flair). The career suicide thing was kind of to illustrate the point that you can't compare quitting a 9 to 5 job to quitting a job where you are contractually obligated to perform. I didn't mean Punk was committing career suicide.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 13:57:13 GMT -5
Trending for past 11 hours is definitely worth WMXXX main event & win in a handicap match over the whole Kliq.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 13:57:43 GMT -5
So if he did QUIT so to speak, couldn't he get the pants sued off him and turn into a new Ultimate Warrior-like pariah? Does he want to induct Warrior so badly that he wanted to turn into him? WWE could probably go after him for breech of contract but I sincerely doubt they'd take an active deal to court and take the chance of a judge ripping their contracts to shreds. Especially since by the time they actually saw a courtroom his contract would've most likely already expired anyway rendering it pointless, plus when they went to court over Lesnar's contract it didn't work out in their favor.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jan 29, 2014 13:58:19 GMT -5
Something tells me that this is news to try and work the internet. We all know that the WWE knows full well how pissed the fans are over the Royal Rumble, Raw, and the impending Wrestlemania main event. They like to push the smarks buttons and it wouldn't surprise me if this is just another troll article.
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