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Post by Widow's Peak on Jan 30, 2014 13:12:35 GMT -5
There's an article on Fox Sports talking to Rener Gracie about Punk's possible future in MMA. Some interesting stuff, but the part that has gotten the most attention is a throwaway line about a text Punk sent him: It could very well mean its a work. Or maybe Punk decided show up at that taping to talk over his future with WWE. Or maybe (most likely) he's planning to be in LA at another time and not planning to show up for RAW. But its still interesting. full article: msn.foxsports.com/ufc/haymaker/gracie-cm-punk-is-interested-in-mma-and-there-s-no-limit-to-his-potential-012914
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jan 30, 2014 13:13:31 GMT -5
I definitely hope you're right. Although I don't want people to barrack Batista over this either, actually. Feels like blaming the symptom, not the cause. He kind of is the cause. He could've turned down the Rumble win and Mania spot, and he could've offered to put guys over. I agree but he'd be stupid to do that. You have to make the money while you can. Also, he clearly doesn't a give a f*** lol
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 30, 2014 13:20:23 GMT -5
WWE should stop pushing Triple H as Punk's opponent and bring in the guy who will make Punk care again. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Alex Riley
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 13:26:15 GMT -5
Fits into my Cena is HBK thoughts I think that'd make Reigns Rock. If Reigns starts talking in the third person, I'll buy a f***load of WWE stock. And sell it 3 years later. Then invest in myself as a fortune teller.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 13:37:37 GMT -5
WWE should stop pushing Triple H as Punk's opponent and bring in the guy who will make Punk care again. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Alex Riley {Spoiler}
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jan 30, 2014 13:37:41 GMT -5
I kinda like to imagine this would have happened... CM Punk: Calm down, Punky diddily diddily diddily, doodily. They did their best shodaiddily iddily iddily diddily diddily. Gotta be nice, hostidididildilidilly... aw, hell-diddly-ding-dong crap! CAN'T YOU MORONS DO ANYTHING RIGHT?! *everyone gasps* Vince McMahon: Punk! We meant well and everyone here tried their best. CM Punk: Well, my friends and I can't wrestle in good intentions, Vince! Oh, your family's out of control, but we can't blame you, because you have good intentions! Aurora Rose: Hey! Back off, man! CM Punk: Ooh, okay, little girl! I wouldn't want you to have a cow, man! Here's a catch-phrase you better learn for your adult years: "Hey, buddy, got a quarter?" *everyone gasps* Aurora Rose: I am shocked and appalled. Stephanie McMahon: Mr. Punk, with all due respect, Aurora Rose didn't do anything. CM Punk: Do I hear the sound of butting in? It's gotta be little Stephanie McMahon, WWE's answer to a question no one asked! Jerry Lawler: *laughs* CM Punk: What do we have here? - The long flabby arm of the law? The last case you got the bottom of, was a case of Mallomars! John Laurinaitis: Mallomars, oh haha. That's going in the act. CM Punk: Oh yeah, the clown. The only one of you buffoons who doesn't make me laugh. And as for you, I don't know you, but I'm sure you're a jerk! Mojo Rawley: Hey, I've only been here a few minutes! What's going on? CM Punk: You ugly, hate-filled man! Kevin Dunn: Hey, hey, I may be ugly and hate-filled, but I... um, what was the third thing you said? CM Punk: Hunter, you are the worst human being I have ever met. Triple H: Hey, I got off pretty easy. I am trying not to laugh my ass off in the break room over my lunch hour. It's not working.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jan 30, 2014 13:42:05 GMT -5
The only other thing that makes me feel that this is a work, is that the WWE has not come out and confirmed it on their website. I know that's not saying much, but usually if they release someone, especially someone of this caliber, they'd have it on their webpage. On the exact same token, though, another person could argue that the lack of note on their webpage is a sign it's legit, as they're in a state of turmoil and lack of certainty on what's going on has kept them from posting anything definitive. As far as that hat of his that went on sale today? Hell yeah, squeeze as much juice out of that orange as you possibly can before it's about to dry up. Curse you and your logic. There goes the last of my hope.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 30, 2014 13:53:22 GMT -5
There's an article on Fox Sports talking to Rener Gracie about Punk's possible future in MMA. Some interesting stuff, but the part that has gotten the most attention is a throwaway line about a text Punk sent him: It could very well mean its a work. Or maybe Punk decided show up at that taping to talk over his future with WWE. Or maybe (most likely) he's planning to be in LA at another time and not planning to show up for RAW. But its still interesting. full article: msn.foxsports.com/ufc/haymaker/gracie-cm-punk-is-interested-in-mma-and-there-s-no-limit-to-his-potential-012914I just can't think of any decent payoff to be had from it being a work. If Punk was about to build towards a match against Kane at Elimination Chamber, what would him leaving really do for that? If it is a work, then major props for the realism, but there'd be no point to doing it.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jan 30, 2014 14:01:28 GMT -5
just can't think of any decent payoff to be had from it being a work. If Punk was about to build towards a match against Kane at Elimination Chamber, what would him leaving really do for that? If it is a work, then major props for the realism, but there'd be no point to doing it. It makes a Wrestlemania match with Hunter (whoever ends up having it) seem like an even huger deal, because not being in it was reason for Punk to walk. In general, it also helps sell Wrestlemania as huge for the same reason. It also helps Batista get over as a heel among, at least, a portion of the fans, since he's blamed for it.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 30, 2014 14:07:01 GMT -5
He kind of is the cause. He could've turned down the Rumble win and Mania spot, and he could've offered to put guys over. I agree but he'd be stupid to do that. You have to make the money while you can. Also, he clearly doesn't a give a f*** lol Jericho came back two years ago specifically to put over Punk. Last year he demanded to put Ryback over. And he still made loads of money. So yeah, it's 100% your second point.
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Post by The IWC WORLD Champion on Jan 30, 2014 14:08:23 GMT -5
I bet, next weeks RAW Punk will have 'bought a ticket' and sit ringside as just a fan.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Jan 30, 2014 14:15:27 GMT -5
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If Punk left because of the HHH match and on Monday they spent all day rewriting the script so that Bryan would going after HHH instead, why did Punk leave again?
It might just be a bad choice of words, but I chuckled at HHH "allowing" Vince to handle the situation.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 30, 2014 14:19:18 GMT -5
Newz If Punk left because of the HHH match and on Monday they spent all day rewriting the script so that Bryan would going after HHH instead, why did Punk leave again? It might just be a bad choice of words, but I chuckled at HHH "allowing" Vince to handle the situation. Yeah... Vince kinda outranks Hunter in this...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 14:20:37 GMT -5
Newz If Punk left because of the HHH match and on Monday they spent all day rewriting the script so that Bryan would going after HHH instead, why did Punk leave again? It might just be a bad choice of words, but I chuckled at HHH "allowing" Vince to handle the situation. Maybe they started re-writing it after Punk said he was going to leave? Either that or whatever they re-wrote for him was some how worse than Punk vs HHH - which, honestly, I can understand Punk not wanting to do. HHH is the only guy who really thinks he's this LEGEND - I mean, HHH is a HoF guy for sure, but I think in Punk's mind a HHH match isn't HUGE, like Wrestlemania HUGE.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 14:27:11 GMT -5
I wonder what other things Vince can't do with HHH's permission.
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Post by The Lex Espresso on Jan 30, 2014 14:27:16 GMT -5
I really don't think it's so much about what's best for Punk. I think his leaving in more to do with 'what's best for business' in Punk's eyes. He's not a stupid man. He knows that there's BIG money to be made if Daniel Bryan were to Main Event WMXXX. If there's more buyers of the PPV, EVERYONE gets a bigger piece. But WWE refuses, for whatever reason, to do this. Instead, we've got Bryan with Cena at the moment and probably up until Wrestlemania. Punk thinks that there are a LOT of guys on the roster who DESERVE a WM spot but aren't going to get it. Instead there's going to be a part timer in the Main Event. There's the New Age Outlaws with the Tag Titles who've been back all of a month. A spot that could have been held by the Uso's, or the Real Americans, or Los Matadors...... I really think Punk's departure is much more than 'he doesn't want to wrestle HHH' I'm inclined to agree; given his financial situation and his popularity, as well as everything we know about his career and personal beliefs (when it comes to this wrestling thing), Punk would be the person best placed and least likely to screw himself by taking a stand against what he considers to be a real threat to the whole shebang. He doesn't really have anything to lose, and - from his point of view - can make a change for the better that should've happened when he took an arguably lesser stand a couple of years ago. If this is his motivation, then he can only be applauded for doing what he's doing.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 30, 2014 14:29:59 GMT -5
Newz If Punk left because of the HHH match and on Monday they spent all day rewriting the script so that Bryan would going after HHH instead, why did Punk leave again? It might just be a bad choice of words, but I chuckled at HHH "allowing" Vince to handle the situation. Maybe they started re-writing it after Punk said he was going to leave? Either that or whatever they re-wrote for him was some how worse than Punk vs HHH - which, honestly, I can understand Punk not wanting to do. HHH is the only guy who really thinks he's this LEGEND - I mean, HHH is a HoF guy for sure, but I think in Punk's mind a HHH match isn't HUGE, like Wrestlemania HUGE. And he's not. I like HHH but he doesn't have that "next level" thing that allows him to be a legitimate special attraction as a part-time performer. Even with his losses, Brock's managed to retain that feel. UT still has the streak to keep his special attraction uniqueness. Andre was Andre. HHH is...just not as impressive. In the fans' eyes, he's not something super-special, he's just a semi-retired guy and mostly viewed as a suit these days. Vince pulled it off because he wasn't previously a full-time wrestler, and people were salivating to finally see Austin beat the crap out of him. There's just no draw there to HHH coming back to take on a top star.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 14:36:38 GMT -5
Maybe they started re-writing it after Punk said he was going to leave? Either that or whatever they re-wrote for him was some how worse than Punk vs HHH - which, honestly, I can understand Punk not wanting to do. HHH is the only guy who really thinks he's this LEGEND - I mean, HHH is a HoF guy for sure, but I think in Punk's mind a HHH match isn't HUGE, like Wrestlemania HUGE. And he's not. I like HHH but he doesn't have that "next level" thing that allows him to be a legitimate special attraction as a part-time performer. Even with his losses, Brock's managed to retain that feel. UT still has the streak to keep his special attraction uniqueness. Andre was Andre. HHH is...just not as impressive. In the fans' eyes, he's not something super-special, he's just a semi-retired guy and mostly viewed as a suit these days. Vince pulled it off because he wasn't previously a full-time wrestler, and people were salivating to finally see Austin beat the crap out of him. There's just no draw there to HHH coming back to take on a top star. Which really, begs the question - what did Punk want for Wrestlemania? WWE hasn't even come close to building up anyone near Punk's level for the current roster. Unless he was shooting for Punk/Bryan (just to say they headlined WM) or Punk/Batista (not really a dream match, but still one that hasn't been done to death), what exactly did he want?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 14:38:43 GMT -5
I think the biggest question is whether his ball in the fridge.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jan 30, 2014 14:59:12 GMT -5
The HHH match should be Daniel's. Punk's right.
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