Jonathan Michaels
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Apr 27, 2014 9:41:47 GMT -5
Well, at least Ambrose is actually credible. That alone makes him a way better champion than Santino was. Santino was credible too, for the most part. At the time he won the US Title he was mega over and red hot. And just like Ambrose, Santino was retaining the title against former World Champions. He came damn close to winning the Elimination Chamber two years ago, eliminating two guys, and he had that damn good match the night after WM28 when he defended against Ziggler and Swagger.
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Eunös ✈
Dalek
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Tolerated, just not practically liked.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Apr 27, 2014 9:43:44 GMT -5
Time to stick it back on Kofi till they find the next guy they want to push to the moon
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Apr 27, 2014 9:49:05 GMT -5
The titles were still being defended at house shows, which apparently Ambrose is also doing. So yes, Ambrose is an 80's-style Titty Master champion. Probably the last one to the party, but what's the story about Dean Ambrose being a Titty Master? Apparently it was a nickname of his in the past, possibly on the indies, not sure, but he's been writing it on his wristtape at house shows, specifically "Titty" on one hand, "Master" on the other. It came to a head at Wrestlemania when there was a clearly visible "Titty Master Dean Ambrose" sign by him as The Shield made their entrance.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 27, 2014 9:52:50 GMT -5
Since house shows are rarely acknowledged, and Dean Ambrose hasn't defended the belt on tv in almost 2 months...shouldn't Triple H just be a dick and strip him of the belt? Don't all titles have to be defended once in 30 days?
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Post by The Tim Duncan Experience on Apr 27, 2014 9:57:43 GMT -5
Probably the last one to the party, but what's the story about Dean Ambrose being a Titty Master? Apparently it was a nickname of his in the past, possibly on the indies, not sure, but he's been writing it on his wristtape at house shows, specifically "Titty" on one hand, "Master" on the other. It came to a head at Wrestlemania when there was a clearly visible "Titty Master Dean Ambrose" sign by him as The Shield made their entrance. Oh ok thanks for the info! I thought it would have been just a random joke from one of the people on this forum. Maybe he wants to be the second coming of the great Waylon Mercy
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Toates Madhackrviper
King Koopa
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Apr 27, 2014 10:14:04 GMT -5
Its decoration at this point. He barely ever even defends it at house shows according to wrestling data. Like eight defenses total this year and six were at house shows. And one of the two televised defenses was a "get DQed and retain", and both were against the same guy. He needs to drop it someone who has time toe defend it. The US title should be a lowercard title right now anyway. But woe be it that the WWE actually care to give any focus to their lowercard wrestlers.
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Crimson
Hank Scorpio
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Post by Crimson on Apr 27, 2014 12:24:49 GMT -5
He honestly should have lost it in a fluke finish by now and been too wrapped up in his Shield feud to care. Imo that's the reason why I've felt the US Title needs to go. Ambrose has been pushed so hard as a member of the Shield that the people who SHOULD be fighting for the title aren't viable contenders. The only guys who are credible threats are former World Champions like Mark Henry or Dolph Ziggler who won't win the belt either because they're "too good" for it even with one world title and being massively depushed. Anyone who wins the belt now will just look like a lame duck champion for the very reason of Ambrose having "more important things to do" than win it back. True story. Hell, if people really want two midcard belts, just retire the U.S. title and bring back the Television title. The I.C. for the "upper midcard" (Sheamus, Del Rio, Ziggler, Miz, Kofi, Cesaro, Swagger, Cody Rhodes) and the Television Title for the lower midcard (Ryder, Alex Riley, Tyson Kidd, Yoshi Tatsu) and make it a stipulation that the Television Title actually has to be defended every week on TV. I think it would fit since the company seems to be making the card more competitive base, and it would give lower card guys more time to shine and connect with the audience.
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isink
Don Corleone
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Post by isink on Apr 27, 2014 13:01:38 GMT -5
Ambros and Rollins were on a radio show a few months ago [Reigns over slept]. They mentioned how as cool as it is to have a belt, traveling with it is terrible. Rollins said he would try to hide it deep in his bag otherwise the TSA would take it out at the airport and hold it up drawing attention.
Surprised Ambrose hasn't tried to drop it to someone.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Apr 27, 2014 13:11:57 GMT -5
Maybe they're going to have him break Luger's record.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 13:43:05 GMT -5
It's clear he has completely mastered titties at this point. He should move on to mastering something else now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 13:48:01 GMT -5
Ambros and Rollins were on a radio show a few months ago [Reigns over slept]. They mentioned how as cool as it is to have a belt, traveling with it is terrible. Rollins said he would try to hide it deep in his bag otherwise the TSA would take it out at the airport and hold it up drawing attention. Surprised Ambrose hasn't tried to drop it to someone. I've never understood why they make the guys carry the belts around with them at all times, I can understand it for TV appearances and so forth, but damn just put that thing in the truck with the ring or something so that they don't have to get hassled by the TSA daily.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 14:25:05 GMT -5
Since house shows are rarely acknowledged, and Dean Ambrose hasn't defended the belt on tv in almost 2 months...shouldn't Triple H just be a dick and strip him of the belt? Don't all titles have to be defended once in 30 days? I believe that rule only applied if the champion was unwilling or unable to defend the title. Of course this is pro wrestling and WWE can do whatever they want to but I can't recall the rule ever being enforced that way.
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SAJ Forth
Wade Wilson
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Post by SAJ Forth on Apr 27, 2014 14:57:46 GMT -5
Believe cream puffs.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 27, 2014 18:27:21 GMT -5
Imo that's the reason why I've felt the US Title needs to go. Ambrose has been pushed so hard as a member of the Shield that the people who SHOULD be fighting for the title aren't viable contenders. The only guys who are credible threats are former World Champions like Mark Henry or Dolph Ziggler who won't win the belt either because they're "too good" for it even with one world title and being massively depushed. Anyone who wins the belt now will just look like a lame duck champion for the very reason of Ambrose having "more important things to do" than win it back. True story. Hell, if people really want two midcard belts, just retire the U.S. title and bring back the Television title. The I.C. for the "upper midcard" (Sheamus, Del Rio, Ziggler, Miz, Kofi, Cesaro, Swagger, Cody Rhodes) and the Television Title for the lower midcard (Ryder, Alex Riley, Tyson Kidd, Yoshi Tatsu) and make it a stipulation that the Television Title actually has to be defended every week on TV. I think it would fit since the company seems to be making the card more competitive base, and it would give lower card guys more time to shine and connect with the audience. Why bother with retiring one title just to replace it with another? Just add the stipulation to the US title. The only downside I can see is that if the title were to be defended weekly, it would almost certainly be hot potatoed around, further devaluing it. I'd rather have a guy hold onto a belt for months at a time than see four or five title changes over the same period.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 18:32:09 GMT -5
Why hasn't Zeb been trying to commandeer the US Title for America?
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Post by karld316 on Apr 27, 2014 23:52:09 GMT -5
Since house shows are rarely acknowledged, and Dean Ambrose hasn't defended the belt on tv in almost 2 months...shouldn't Triple H just be a dick and strip him of the belt? Don't all titles have to be defended once in 30 days? House shows still count as a defense, so no.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 23:55:41 GMT -5
First they said he'd never make it . Then they said he'd never master titties. You do you, Dean.
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Post by MiLo Duck on Apr 28, 2014 0:15:12 GMT -5
Why hasn't Zeb been trying to commandeer the US Title for America? Been wondering the same thing. It'd look good with Swagger, give them a talking point, and have something to fight over with Cesaro or whatever foreigner they are harassing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 1:04:02 GMT -5
Why hasn't Zeb been trying to commandeer the US Title for America? Been wondering the same thing. It'd look good with Swagger, give them a talking point, and have something to fight over with Cesaro or whatever foreigner they are harassing. Zeb's time on camera is probably being phased out honestly. Not because he isn't good, he is, but because Swagger isn't doing shit other than "being with Zeb" and replacing Cesaro and trying to just carry on is going to get dull real quick. If they try to push forward without Cesaro after this, it's just going to die. After they wrap up swagger/cesaro (which they are working on already) I expect to see Zeb head on out and Swagger becomes a jobber entrance guy with no manager.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 28, 2014 2:52:58 GMT -5
True story. Hell, if people really want two midcard belts, just retire the U.S. title and bring back the Television title. The I.C. for the "upper midcard" (Sheamus, Del Rio, Ziggler, Miz, Kofi, Cesaro, Swagger, Cody Rhodes) and the Television Title for the lower midcard (Ryder, Alex Riley, Tyson Kidd, Yoshi Tatsu) and make it a stipulation that the Television Title actually has to be defended every week on TV. I think it would fit since the company seems to be making the card more competitive base, and it would give lower card guys more time to shine and connect with the audience. Why bother with retiring one title just to replace it with another? Just add the stipulation to the US title. The only downside I can see is that if the title were to be defended weekly, it would almost certainly be hot potatoed around, further devaluing it. I'd rather have a guy hold onto a belt for months at a time than see four or five title changes over the same period. The US Title is meant to be on the same level in kayfabe as the IC Title. While I would love one of those low level guys to win gold, I don't like the idea of the US Title being officially the low card title. It would reek too much of Vince's WWE > WCW mongering. Fans might take it the wrong way and it wouldn't be fair to those guys to have their big moment to shine to be tainted by a possible backlash. I'd rather they make a new belt or bring back an actual low card title like the European Title.
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