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Post by Burst on May 11, 2014 0:02:10 GMT -5
Thinking about how the TNG era kind of sputtered to a stop with the relatively embarrassing ST:Nemesis and the cancellation of Enterprise, but also thinking about how they were able to integrate Leonard Nimoy into the Abrams Trek movies, does anybody think there's any real way to revisit Picard and co without it being gimmicky?
Obviously the passage of time would have to be taken into account, but from the beginning of TNG to right now, it's been around 26 years, which is give or take a year what it was from the beginning of TOS to Star Trek VI, let alone Generations.
I don't know whether you would want to get all the cast together or just have a way of having them cameo in the next Abrams film a la Nimoy (though again, that would probably be too gimmicky) but it would be nice for them to have had a more flattering send-off than Nemesis, for all that the TNG crew did to restart the Trek franchise.
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Post by CMWaters on May 11, 2014 0:05:49 GMT -5
Most of the cast could, but there is the one major problem:
Brent Spiner has aged too.
They'd REALLY have to find a way around things for him to play the android part again. (Yes, I know what happened to Data in Nemesis, but they did resolve that problem in other media, including the prequel comic to the 2009 movie).
Really, I think the best hope would be cameos from them in the next Star Trek movie (maybe as predecessors to the TNG crew...Spiner could play the father of Data's creator, Stewart could play an ancestor of Picard, that sort of thing).
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on May 11, 2014 0:12:13 GMT -5
You know what was a REALLY good sendoff in all honesty? "All Good Things...." AKA the Actual series finale.
It was one of, if not THE, best final Star Trek Episode I've ever seen and it worked both as a Double-Length Episode and as a TV Movie (And with a better budget could've been a theatrical one). If you HAVE to consider the movies as a "Sendoff" Maybe First Contact.....it was a good time travel story that intertwined the TNG Cast/Crew, their long-running Borg storyline, and Data's "Humanity Exploration" storyline up nicely.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 11, 2014 0:32:15 GMT -5
Yep, "All Good Things" is enough of a send-off.
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Post by camsamurai06 on May 11, 2014 5:01:43 GMT -5
The movies feel so increasingly detatched from the spirit of TNG, I simply ignore them and consider All Good Things as the definitive stamp
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Post by Jiren on May 11, 2014 7:40:34 GMT -5
Ignore "Insurrection" (Or not if u like it) & "Nemesis"
Place "First contact" within the show timeline and end it with "All good things", That's good enough for me
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on May 11, 2014 11:14:40 GMT -5
Hell, All Good Things should have been a movie. It was already almost long enough to be one, inject a bit more money and release it and it would have been fantastic.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2014 12:26:13 GMT -5
Somewhere, in alternate 2392, Picard is a Starbase mechanic. The Enterprise-E (with all different crew, except Captain Data, who wasn't destroyed in this timeline), with Guinan on board, visits this starbase for routine maintenance. Everybody has to get off the ship to go in the starbase, Guinan meets Picard (knowing him from the past), and she suddenly realizes that he is supposed to be the captain of the very ship she is on.
Picard was going to retire soon, so he quits the Starbase early (they permit him to retire early), so he goes on the Enterprise to figure out what Guinan is talking about.
Guinan remembers that the Prime Data's head would still be buried in that mine shaft, since the alt. timeline they have no reason to retrieve it, and due to quantum realities and stuff, the 1800s stuff still happened. Data goes to Earth to retrieve his counterpart's head, about 500 years old at this point. He repairs the head and connects it to a computer, and Prime Data starts talking and is able to verify that Picard actually was the Captain of Ent-D at least. This convinces Alt. Capt. Data that the timeline has changed.
They soon find with long-range sensors that there is a temporal rift in the site of the former Romulan Star (the supernova still happened and destroyed Romulus). Alt. Data orders the Ent-E to warp there, where they are attacked and destroyed by 4 Warbirds before they can enter the rift.
After the Enterprise-E explodes, it quickly flashes back to where "Into Darkness" left off, with Alt. Kirk et al. on the Alt. Enterprise NCC-1701, as the Enterprise-E's attempt to restore the TNG timeline fails and we continue on with the New Timeline, both making it permanent and the real Star Trek, and respecting that all the old shows still happened.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on May 11, 2014 12:45:22 GMT -5
whole new cast!!! whole new ships ..... OLD ORIGINAL MISSION!!!!! the five year mission to explore the galaxy ..... RETURN TO THAT! a real exploration strand, since there's quite a bit of the galaxy not explored by the federation
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Post by Jiren on May 11, 2014 13:21:13 GMT -5
whole new cast!!! whole new ships ..... OLD ORIGINAL MISSION!!!!! the five year mission to explore the galaxy ..... RETURN TO THAT! a real exploration strand, since there's quite a bit of the galaxy not explored by the federation Star Trek + Mass Effect? Am I the only one that thinks that would rule
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 11, 2014 13:21:52 GMT -5
Yes. Yes it is.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2014 13:25:16 GMT -5
Not as long as Patrick Stewart is willing.
When Stewart starts disowning Picard, that's when you know TNG is gone. Until then, there's still a chance.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 11, 2014 13:28:27 GMT -5
Not as long as Patrick Stewart is willing.
When Stewart starts disowning Picard, that's when you know TNG is gone. Until then, there's still a chance.
I assumed that the question here was from the artistic perspective or the logic perspective, rather than 'would they do it?' They would probably still do an nWo reunion, yet again. Doesn't mean that logically or artistically that should happen. You can choose not to go back to something without going back to it.
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