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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 5:43:58 GMT -5
I say Ambrose wins the briefcase simply because out of all 3 of the former Shield members, he has the least advantage right now.
Rollins is the corporate heir. He's the next Triple H. He'll be the guy thrown in title matches simply because he can be. An example is Elimination Chamber, he'll be in that because he's with the Authority. He can attack whoever the champion is and have it make sense. He doesn't need the briefcase with the Authority.
Reigns is the heir to the throne in general. He'll eventually get it probably at WM31. Everything's lined up for the guy so he's not winning the WWE WHC yet.
Ambrose needs the briefcase to keep him elevated with the others in importance. Him grabbing it also keeps his crazy unpredictable nature intact. It would be perfect. It's also great when he uses it on whoever (possibly Reigns) and then goes heel. It's just, again, perfect.
Also I see Ambrose winning because he's constantly getting thwarted by Rollins. It was mentioned on SD that it's been the third time Rollins has screwed him over recently. After he wins, they'll have their feud in which Ambrose will somehow win. Rollins will move onto Reigns probably while Ambrose will probably hit some filler feuds before he cashes in mid-next year. Reigns and Rollins are pretty much set with their positions while Ambrose is a bit harder to predict.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jun 21, 2014 11:17:06 GMT -5
I say Ambrose wins the briefcase simply because out of all 3 of the former Shield members, he has the least advantage right now. Rollins is the corporate heir. He's the next Triple H. He'll be the guy thrown in title matches simply because he can be. An example is Elimination Chamber, he'll be in that because he's with the Authority. He can attack whoever the champion is and have it make sense. He doesn't need the briefcase with the Authority. Reigns is the heir to the throne in general. He'll eventually get it probably at WM31. Everything's lined up for the guy so he's not winning the WWE WHC yet. Ambrose needs the briefcase to keep him elevated with the others in importance. Him grabbing it also keeps his crazy unpredictable nature intact. It would be perfect. It's also great when he uses it on whoever (possibly Reigns) and then goes heel. It's just, again, perfect. Also I see Ambrose winning because he's constantly getting thwarted by Rollins. It was mentioned on SD that it's been the third time Rollins has screwed him over recently. After he wins, they'll have their feud in which Ambrose will somehow win. Rollins will move onto Reigns probably while Ambrose will probably hit some filler feuds before he cashes in mid-next year. Reigns and Rollins are pretty much set with their positions while Ambrose is a bit harder to predict. I agree with this. I think WWE wants to keep all of the Shield strong right now and having Ambrose win the briefcase is a good way to keep him relevant when Reigns and Rollins inevitably feud.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 11:42:04 GMT -5
I agree with this. I think WWE wants to keep all of the Shield strong right now and having Ambrose win the briefcase is a good way to keep him relevant when Reigns and Rollins inevitably feud. I thought we were going to be seeing more of a Rollins vs Ambrose feud while Reigns got moved "up" into feuding with Orton/HHH and maybe into the title picture.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jun 21, 2014 15:09:20 GMT -5
Would it seem reasonable that at MITB, two wrestlers were at the top of the ladder and one grabbed the WWE Title Belt and the other Grabbed the WHC Belt, that there would be two Heavyweight Champions? Would WWE pull something like this, so close to them unifying them? My first thought was to say no, but everyone who's thinking they wouldn't needs to factor one thing into the equation: If WWE still had separate WWE and World titles a champion getting injured and unable to defend one wouldn't have been nearly this big of an issue for them...I don't see it like that, and I'm glad they unified them, but WWE might be thinking against having all their eggs in one basket due to everything that's happened since WrestleMania. WWE already effectively buried the WHC so splitting them again would mean nothing in that regard. Look at the Summer of Punk. Punk "walked out" with the title and no one thought "oh well, we still have the World Heavyweight Title". It was "this company will be in total turmoil without the WWE Championship". Plus Mark Henry's fake retirement and Daniel Bryan's rise was predicated on the idea that they "never won the big one". Eggs would still be in one basket, probably even moreso with two titles. At least with one championship there are plenty of options in case of such an emergency like Bryan's injury.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 15:19:07 GMT -5
My first thought was to say no, but everyone who's thinking they wouldn't needs to factor one thing into the equation: If WWE still had separate WWE and World titles a champion getting injured and unable to defend one wouldn't have been nearly this big of an issue for them...I don't see it like that, and I'm glad they unified them, but WWE might be thinking against having all their eggs in one basket due to everything that's happened since WrestleMania. WWE already effectively buried the WHC so splitting them again would mean nothing in that regard. Look at the Summer of Punk. Punk "walked out" with the title and no one thought "oh well, we still have the World Heavyweight Title". It was "this company will be in total turmoil without the WWE Championship". Plus Mark Henry's fake retirement and Daniel Bryan's rise was predicated on the idea that they "never won the big one". Eggs would still be in one basket, probably even moreso with two titles. At least with one championship there are plenty of options in case of such an emergency like Bryan's injury. As I said I think it would be a bad idea, and I agree with you, but I was playing the devil's advocate. I'm not saying it's what they SHOULD do, I'm just saying that WWE might be thinking along those lines.
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Post by GEOLINK on Jun 22, 2014 10:56:08 GMT -5
They're not de-unifying the titles again. In order to win the titles, the wrestler needs to capture the gold hanger that holds both titles, not each of them individually.
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Post by ibdude on Jun 22, 2014 13:39:38 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar should be a surprise entrant I'm the MITB, destroy everybody in the match and win the briefcase.
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Post by Neo: "The One" who CLAPS on Jun 23, 2014 11:14:36 GMT -5
I still think that ADR will be attacked backstage and replaced in the main event.
While everyone is hoping that his replacement will be Lesnar or Punk or someone like that, it will just be the Demon, Kane.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 23, 2014 11:23:55 GMT -5
They're not de-unifying the titles again. In order to win the titles, the wrestler needs to capture the gold hanger that holds both titles, not each of them individually. One person will grab the WWE Title, another will grab the World Heavyweight Championship... and someone will get the gold hanger! Then we'll get three people claiming the rights to the title!
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 23, 2014 11:53:03 GMT -5
I love how people have become so expectant of WWE doing a crazy swerve with the world title belts that the actual swerve will be that there isn't one.
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Post by BRV on Jun 23, 2014 14:54:49 GMT -5
They're not de-unifying the titles again. In order to win the titles, the wrestler needs to capture the gold hanger that holds both titles, not each of them individually. One person will grab the WWE Title, another will grab the World Heavyweight Championship... and someone will get the gold hanger! Then we'll get three people claiming the rights to the title! So grabbing the gold hanger is the WWE's equivalent to TNA saying that you don't have to pull down the contract, you have to grab the clipboard that's hanging above the ring in order to win?
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Post by angryfan on Jun 23, 2014 21:01:01 GMT -5
So the briefcase match will be Rollins, Kofi, Ziggler, Swagger, RVD, and Barrett? Damn, so when Ambrose runs in to cost Seth that match and get his revenge, does that mean Barrett will get the briefcase? It's that or RVD and...just no, not anymore.
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Post by CH Punk on Jun 23, 2014 21:15:32 GMT -5
So the briefcase match will be Rollins, Kofi, Ziggler, Swagger, RVD, and Barrett? Damn, so when Ambrose runs in to cost Seth that match and get his revenge, does that mean Barrett will get the briefcase? It's that or RVD and...just no, not anymore. Ambrose was added as well, but I still think Barrett will sneak out with the win.
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Jun 23, 2014 21:21:20 GMT -5
If Barrett doesn't win the briefcase I will get rid of my FORUM SIGNATURE. THAT'S HOW DEADLY SURE I AM HE'S WINNING.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 24, 2014 0:27:44 GMT -5
The card's shaping up nicely (that second ladder match will be sweet), but... only four matches announced with the go home RAW done? That's small even by their erratic standards. I bet it gets fleshed out with another Rusev v Big E match, probably something with Dallas as well, but there's going to be some rushed announcements between now and Sunday.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Jun 24, 2014 0:47:03 GMT -5
Alright with the entire midcard and main-event scene already booked, here's what we got left to round out the card.
RyBaxel vs Goldust & Stardust for a tag title shot?
Fandango & Layla vs Adam Rose & Summer Rae
Bo Dallas will probably get his first challenge in Khali or something where he wins by Countout or something
And it looks like we're getting round 2 for Rusev vs Big E
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Post by Clawley Race on Jun 24, 2014 1:25:58 GMT -5
What I hope happens: (I've admittedly not seen a Raw since the last PPV)
Rollins is about to win the title when Ambrose does something to go out of his way to make sure Seth doesn't win. Maybe he climbs up and knocks Seth off, then instead of going for the title leaps to finish Rollins off. Their feud right now doesn't need the MITB/Title. Dean hates Seth right now right? Seth left him for to try and be the guy with the title, right? If he costs him...then they both have all the reason for the 'blood feud' that everyone has been talking about.
Then, I hope Dolph wins again. It'd be the best way to get him back over like he was a year and a half ago. The only other person worth winning the thing is BNB, but I'm just not a fan. Dolph back in the upper card, eventually with Rollins/Cesaro/Ambrose is what I want to see. It is what I root for.
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Post by Krazee on Jun 24, 2014 2:02:04 GMT -5
only 4 matches? i'm sure we'll get a few bonus matches to spread out the card
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 24, 2014 2:34:51 GMT -5
Holy shit, it's glorious.
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Post by king1836 on Jun 24, 2014 7:56:46 GMT -5
Here is a frightening thought : We could end up with Bray Wyatt as World Champion, and Harper/Rowan as Tag Team Champions
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