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Post by salsashark on Jun 14, 2014 10:49:32 GMT -5
Boy, the charms of being a beloved celebrity really are overpowering in this thread. CM Punk is one of my all-time favorite wrestlers, but I have absolute zero doubt he's a prick to people most of the time based on all these stories and the way he talks, yet the allure of him being a celebrity people like is so strong in this thread that they will excuse anything he does. If you act like CM Punk did to the OP, nasty and unprovoked, celebrity or not, you are a dick (barring some extreme circumstances). Why not just say, 'Yeah, I am. Gotta go, man' or 'That's me' or nothing at all, instead of snapping at him? Some of these pro-Punk reactions are fanboy-ing to the max and really disheartening, especially considering this is a guy who has performed for years in a very public and globally renowned company. This story is way more the rule than the exception. I guess it's OK to repeatedly be an asshole to strangers if you are an important celebrity. Keep that worship culture coming! These people are gods after all.
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Post by Abdullah on Jun 14, 2014 10:54:33 GMT -5
Boy, the charms of being a beloved celebrity really are overpowering in this thread. CM Punk is one of my all-time favorite wrestlers, but I have absolute zero doubt he's a prick to people most of the time based on all these stories and the way he talks, yet the allure of him being a celebrity people like is so strong in this thread that they will excuse anything he does. If you act like CM Punk did to the OP, nasty and unprovoked, celebrity or not, you are a dick (barring some extreme circumstances). Why not just say, 'Yeah, I am. Gotta go, man' or 'That's me' or nothing at all, instead of snapping at him? Some of these pro-Punk reactions are fanboy-ing to the max and really disheartening, especially considering this is a guy who has performed for years in a very public and globally renowned company. This story is way more the rule than the exception. I guess it's OK to repeatedly be an asshole to strangers if you are an important celebrity. Keep that worship culture coming! These people are gods after all. I wouldn't be so strong about it, but it is funny that when Ryder was revealed to be prickish to fans the general consensus was that the whiner should be grateful. I don't think it's Punk's skills though. I get the sense that some identify with Punk's mindset and are more ready to excuse him because of it.
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Post by sybaku on Jun 14, 2014 10:57:42 GMT -5
His whole thing is how he is the cool down to earth man of the people and in reality he's an egotistical little whiner like most celebrities. Punks a hero to a lot of people and finding out your hero is a douchbag tends to hit people hard so they turn to hating him. That's their problem though, so I don't have any sympathy for them. You don't like being pestered with work-related things on your days off, I'm sure, now ramp that up about a thousand times and see how long you go before you become a pissed-off jerk about it. The thing so many people forget it celebrities don't belong to them, nor do they owe them one single thing. Being famous doesn't entitle you nor I to hassle someone on their own time. I'm a part time retail worker, he's a multimillionaire who makes his money performing for fans, big difference, quite frankly he owes his fans literally everything, without a fam base he'd still be Phil Brooks, wannabe punk kid, instead of CM Punk famous wrestler. He can't handle the negatives that come from fame? Then I have no sympathy for him.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jun 14, 2014 11:01:28 GMT -5
I think Punk would respond well depending on how fans approach him. Maynard James Keenan of Tool/A Perfect Circle is said to have a very stand offish, insulting, and dry sense of humor. But if you can deal with his style of humor and attitude he responds better to you.
Maybe that's how Punk is? A lot of people probably can't handle his type of humor or attitude, so they sulk away instead of calling him out on it.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jun 14, 2014 11:09:11 GMT -5
To be fair, everyone has a "when I first met CM Punk he was a dickhead story". Hell, even Cliff Compton did, and he was hanging out with him.
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Post by isink on Jun 14, 2014 11:11:30 GMT -5
Is Domino CM Punks dog or something?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jun 14, 2014 11:15:32 GMT -5
So CM Punk is a pleasure to approach at oficial events, Phil Brooks is always on his period, man I hate Phil.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jun 14, 2014 11:16:38 GMT -5
Meh, I don't think Punk, or any celebrity for that matter, owe the fans anything when they're off-duty, so to speak. While you're correct in your statement you have had celebrities like Michael Jackson who would be mobbed when in public and still be kind to fans. When asked how he handled it he said "always be kind and nice to fans. If they want an autograph give them one, they want to shake your hand let them, etc. Just as long as they don't try to hurt me." Of course it's Michael Jackson so when he was alive insanity followed him when he was out in the public. However, Punk, on the other hand, appears to sincerely dislike being approached by anyone when he's out and about. So who knows.
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Post by salsashark on Jun 14, 2014 11:17:32 GMT -5
Boy, the charms of being a beloved celebrity really are overpowering in this thread. CM Punk is one of my all-time favorite wrestlers, but I have absolute zero doubt he's a prick to people most of the time based on all these stories and the way he talks, yet the allure of him being a celebrity people like is so strong in this thread that they will excuse anything he does. If you act like CM Punk did to the OP, nasty and unprovoked, celebrity or not, you are a dick (barring some extreme circumstances). Why not just say, 'Yeah, I am. Gotta go, man' or 'That's me' or nothing at all, instead of snapping at him? Some of these pro-Punk reactions are fanboy-ing to the max and really disheartening, especially considering this is a guy who has performed for years in a very public and globally renowned company. This story is way more the rule than the exception. I guess it's OK to repeatedly be an asshole to strangers if you are an important celebrity. Keep that worship culture coming! These people are gods after all. I wouldn't be so strong about it, but it is funny that when Ryder was revealed to be prickish to fans the general consensus was that the whiner should be grateful. I don't think it's Punk's skills though. I get the sense that some identify with Punk's mindset and are more ready to excuse him because of it. Would people really be making these kinds of excuses if this story was about some random guys or hated celebrities (for wrestling's sake, let's go with Triple H circa 2011)? I genuinely doubt it. If someone shares a story about me being a dickhead, chances are very good that the person hearing the story will say that I'm a dickhead instead of really trying to identify with me and justify my attitude.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jun 14, 2014 11:22:16 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so strong about it, but it is funny that when Ryder was revealed to be prickish to fans the general consensus was that the whiner should be grateful. I don't think it's Punk's skills though. I get the sense that some identify with Punk's mindset and are more ready to excuse him because of it. Would people really be making these kinds of excuses if this story was about some random guys or hated celebrities (for wrestling's sake, let's go with Triple H circa 2011)? I genuinely doubt it. If someone shares a story about me being a dickhead, chances are very good that the person hearing the story will say that I'm a dickhead instead of really trying to identify with me and justify my attitude. Triple H, at least in his prime, flat out admitted he hated being approached at a restaurant or airport. I saw one documentary where he was still pleasant by signing an autograph for a fan. But you could tell he didn't want to be bothered at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2014 11:25:29 GMT -5
What did you expect from your question really? I would have just said "massive fan of your work, have a nice day", if it got acknowledged or not I wouldn't repeat it. I expected him to say "yeah it's us" and keep walking or just give a nod.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 14, 2014 11:41:12 GMT -5
That's their problem though, so I don't have any sympathy for them. You don't like being pestered with work-related things on your days off, I'm sure, now ramp that up about a thousand times and see how long you go before you become a pissed-off jerk about it. The thing so many people forget it celebrities don't belong to them, nor do they owe them one single thing. Being famous doesn't entitle you nor I to hassle someone on their own time. I'm a part time retail worker, he's a multimillionaire who makes his money performing for fans, big difference, quite frankly he owes his fans literally everything, without a fam base he'd still be Phil Brooks, wannabe punk kid, instead of CM Punk famous wrestler. He can't handle the negatives that come from fame? Then I have no sympathy for him. A job is a job, regardless of how much it pays. It's the same societal contract of one party providing a service to the public. So no, there's no difference. Celebrities only owe the fans when they are on the job - they perform, we watch, they get paid, everybody goes home happy, just the same as you only owe your customers when you are on the job. Beyond that, celebrities have every right to behave however they want when approached by a member of the public on their downtime. I'm not gonna bust someone's balls for acting like a dick to everybody who wants a piece of him, whether it's Punk, Cena, Ben Affleck, Miley Cirus, or you.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Jun 14, 2014 11:47:28 GMT -5
My personal belief is that I don't approach celebrities/athletes when they are out in public. In public they are just trying to go about their life and I respect that. They deserve down time as much as anyone.
I met Punk after an ECW show in Texas and he was nice.
I was an athlete in college, one of my teammates ended up playing in the NFL, another ended up going to the Olympics. Best thing I can tell anyone is that you really don't know or can even comprehend what it is like to live that life unless you have actually done that. I can say that from the few moments being with them in public is gets very tiring and stressful very quickly.
If the OP made a mistake it was calling out his name again. If you feel the need that you MUST say something or introduce yourself don't go out of your way to meet them and say what you say once and then move on. It they acknowledge it, great, if they don't it probably means they either didn't hear you (not likely) or that they don't want to be bothered.
In my opinion, its best to just give them their space and let them go on. In the end they are simply no different than anyone else.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Jun 14, 2014 12:37:47 GMT -5
I dunno if it was because it was at an autograph signing but he was cool to me when I met him a few years ago he even cracked a joke. I was totally expecting to get the asshole punk that I had read about time and time again. It's safe to say if he's being paid to interact with fans, Punk is a happy enough guy. On his own time, he wants nothing to do with anybody. Honestly, I don't understand the hate for him being that way. Only thing that irked me is that we had to pay to take a pic with him like usually they have a fcw guy take it using your camera but they used their own digital one where they printed the pic from.
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Post by Heinz Doofenschmirtz on Jun 14, 2014 12:40:06 GMT -5
Demon and Analog's posts need to be framed and hung up with with a huge sign that says 'This Right Frickin' Here'
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Post by sybaku on Jun 14, 2014 12:51:53 GMT -5
Demon and Analog's posts need to be framed and hung up with with a huge sign that says 'This Right Frickin' Here' ..... Is Celebrity Worship (Mostly joking bytheway) Also just to add if a customer of mine asked if I was "The salesguy from the other day" I'd smile and say yes, nice to see you.... In fact it's happened, numerous times, it's called not being a jackass in public.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jun 14, 2014 13:19:03 GMT -5
Boy, the charms of being a beloved celebrity really are overpowering in this thread. CM Punk is one of my all-time favorite wrestlers, but I have absolute zero doubt he's a prick to people most of the time based on all these stories and the way he talks, yet the allure of him being a celebrity people like is so strong in this thread that they will excuse anything he does. If you act like CM Punk did to the OP, nasty and unprovoked, celebrity or not, you are a dick (barring some extreme circumstances). Why not just say, 'Yeah, I am. Gotta go, man' or 'That's me' or nothing at all, instead of snapping at him? Some of these pro-Punk reactions are fanboy-ing to the max and really disheartening, especially considering this is a guy who has performed for years in a very public and globally renowned company. This story is way more the rule than the exception. I guess it's OK to repeatedly be an asshole to strangers if you are an important celebrity. Keep that worship culture coming! These people are gods after all. I have a feeling if it was Dave Batista making such examples people would not be so kind. For my own part, as I have stated before, I can appreciate that a celebrity gets tired of being constantly recognized in public. But there is just plain no excuse for being a dick. Period.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2014 13:25:53 GMT -5
I can understand actors, athletes and singers to a lesser extent not really owing anything to fans because for the most part their skills and talent are what made them famous. I think it's a little different for wrestlers though because how the fans react to them directly affects the trajectory of their careers. Not saying every guy has to always be willing sign, take pictures and chat up fans, but like others in the thread have said there's no reason to be a dick.
I appreciate all the opinions and POVs you guys have posted btw.
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Post by FAR5222 on Jun 14, 2014 13:35:10 GMT -5
It's scary how religious fans get especially those on Tumblr over these wrestlers. There is nothing wrong with praising people on their work but this following grown ass people make where they cosplay as them or defend every negative action they do is stupid.
I don't hate him like some people probably do. You can't hate these guys because they haven't done anything personal to you. But damn Punk needs to just accept the fact that he is a known figure in society.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jun 14, 2014 13:51:02 GMT -5
If someone has a reputation of being a dick, the last thing I would do is give them ammo. After the countless stories of people have from meeting Punk, I would think by now people would realize leave him alone unless you want your feelings hurt. Celebrities of every level are like everyone else. Fame doesn't mean someone will not be an asshole.
So if you see him in public, just keep on moving. No need for the stress unless you want a "CM Punk was a dick to me" story to tell.
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