mizerable
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Post by mizerable on Aug 5, 2014 14:54:49 GMT -5
God, I was in elementary when this came out..and I swear even then without know what sex really was, I wanted to f*** Michelle Pfeifer SO bad.
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Post by Goldenbane on Aug 5, 2014 15:12:31 GMT -5
Love it. Batman Returns is easily my third favorite Batman film after Batman 89, and Dark Knight.
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Post by PKO on Aug 5, 2014 16:45:49 GMT -5
Love it. One of my favourite films.
Danny Devito is perfect casting, Christopher Walken is in it, Michelle Pfeiffer is gorgeous and the best live action catwoman by a mile, it visually looks brilliant, and the Bruce/Batman/Selina/Catwoman story is really good.
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Post by Display Name on Aug 5, 2014 18:16:10 GMT -5
I dig it.Ever since I was a kid though,something about Christopher Walken in it has bugged me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 18:30:48 GMT -5
I like it better than Batman '89. Everyone loves Jack Nicholson's Joker and I don't get it. Nicholson is fine for what it is but what it is is pretty stupid. Pretty run of the mill villainry, and really when you watch them there isn't much disparity between Nicholson's Joker and Tommy Lee Jones' Two Face. They're almost written and behave the exact same.
Batman Returns has it's own moments of idiocy (Catwoman's origin is completely asinine) but I appreciate more what it was trying to do. Penguin was more layered as a villain than anyone else in the Schumacher/Burton films and I like that he was bordering on sympathetic. Also Christopher Walken was completely hate-able.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 5, 2014 18:31:45 GMT -5
A big yay
The best Batman movie IMO
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Aug 7, 2014 2:34:29 GMT -5
Nay as to me it really just felt like a Tim Burton that just happened to have Batman in it.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 7, 2014 2:47:47 GMT -5
Nay as to me it really just felt like a Tim Burton that just happened to have Batman in it. All directors tend to blend the character with their own creative vision. That's why all three "sets" of Batman movies are distinct depending on the director.
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Post by The Trashman on Aug 7, 2014 2:51:22 GMT -5
I remember crying in the theater when the Penguin dies
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 7, 2014 4:23:06 GMT -5
Nay as to me it really just felt like a Tim Burton that just happened to have Batman in it. All directors tend to blend the character with their own creative vision. That's why all three "sets" of Batman movies are distinct depending on the director. Most writers do too. There's so many variations on Batman I can't really look at something and say "that's not Batman" when you have the Adam West version, the original, Frank Miller's and all points inbetween. There's a reduced focus on him, but that happens to most superhero movies with multiple villains, especially sequels as time gets devoted to establishing them and their plans.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 7, 2014 4:39:22 GMT -5
I really don't like this film at all. It just felt like typical Burton gothic type stuff where Batman was largely secondary in his own movie. I think you could've put almost anyone in the role of Batman there and it wouldn't have mattered. It's not that it's a bad film, I just don't really consider it to be a Batman film at all. I liked the first one, but not this one at all.
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Post by Ryushinku on Aug 7, 2014 6:38:19 GMT -5
Yay, although I still enjoy the first Burton film more.
Returns feels more like a collection of set-pieces than a coherent whole, but when it works it works very well. Bruce Wayne's intro and the ballroom scene between him and Selina are two of my favourites in the whole cinematic Batman run.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Aug 7, 2014 7:48:18 GMT -5
It's totally nuts, it has absolutely no plot, and Batman is barely in it.
It's f***ing awesome. WAY better than Batman 89, which is boring as hell. Tim Burton never seemed to have a particularly good grasp on Batman as a character, or his universe...so why not just say f*** it and go crazy? It worked super well for this flick.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 7, 2014 8:24:46 GMT -5
It's totally nuts, it has absolutely no plot, and Batman is barely in it. It's f***ing awesome. WAY better than Batman 89, which is boring as hell. Tim Burton never seemed to have a particularly good grasp on Batman as a character, or his universe...so why not just say f*** it and go crazy? It worked super well for this flick. Your favourite thing about it is my least favourite thing about it. It's not a bad movie, nor is it a Batman movie, and what I wanted to watch when I got Batman on the box was a Batman movie.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Aug 7, 2014 8:48:10 GMT -5
It gets a big 'yay' from me. It's probably my favorite Batman movie.
Outside of The Dark Knight, I prefer any of the 89/90's Batman movies to Nolan's version. Yes, that includes the wonderful abortion that is Batman & Robin.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 7, 2014 16:51:55 GMT -5
I really don't like this film at all. It just felt like typical Burton gothic type stuff where Batman was largely secondary in his own movie. I think you could've put almost anyone in the role of Batman there and it wouldn't have mattered. It's not that it's a bad film, I just don't really consider it to be a Batman film at all. I liked the first one, but not this one at all. My view is that Tim Burton was the perfect director for a Batman movie, since the character is best depicted as dark and brooding anyway. If anything, Batman is least important in the Nolan movies. The Dark Knight in particular could have simply been a heist/crime movie without any comic book elements and it wouldn't have changed significantly.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 7, 2014 17:59:48 GMT -5
It's totally nuts, it has absolutely no plot, and Batman is barely in it. It's f***ing awesome. WAY better than Batman 89, which is boring as hell. Tim Burton never seemed to have a particularly good grasp on Batman as a character, or his universe...so why not just say f*** it and go crazy? It worked super well for this flick. Except for you being completely wrong about 89; I concur.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Aug 7, 2014 21:24:48 GMT -5
It's totally nuts, it has absolutely no plot, and Batman is barely in it. It's f***ing awesome. WAY better than Batman 89, which is boring as hell. Tim Burton never seemed to have a particularly good grasp on Batman as a character, or his universe...so why not just say f*** it and go crazy? It worked super well for this flick. Except for you being completely wrong about 89; I concur. I could just never get into Batman 89. I don't like Nicholson's Joker, I don't think the plot is great, and in general the only things I enjoy about it are Keaton and the general aesthetics.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Aug 7, 2014 23:31:42 GMT -5
It's better than any of those long, boring Nolan movies.
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Post by Danimal on Aug 8, 2014 0:48:13 GMT -5
Like some others I feel like it hit Burton-overload, and outside of Sleepy Hollow I'm not a big Burton fan.
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