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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Aug 5, 2014 7:15:48 GMT -5
This is a pretty divisive film for Batman fans. You either seem to love it or hate it. I like it myself but I can give or take the tinkering with Batman mythology (as much as I love psycho Batman shoving a bomb down a goon's pants the Batman fanboy in me is screaming in anger).
So yeah, were you impressed with Tim Burton's second attempt at the Batman character?
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Post by Joker on Aug 5, 2014 7:22:22 GMT -5
I liked it, the villains were both excellent, Christopher Walken was in it and it was fun.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Aug 5, 2014 7:22:56 GMT -5
I'd rank it as my third fav live action Bruce film, behind The Dark Knight and Batman 89. The one thing that hurts it IMO is the reduced focus on Batman himself, but then again he's always been fighting for the spotlight against his rogue's gallery.
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Post by Kitty Shamrocks on Aug 5, 2014 7:28:25 GMT -5
I'd rank it as my third fav live action Bruce film, behind The Dark Knight and Batman 89. The one thing that hurts it IMO is the reduced focus on Batman himself, but then again he's always been fighting for the spotlight against his rogue's gallery. Very true on your second point. I think Burton knew he did all he was going to do with Batman and changed the focus. Personally I loved it. |
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Aug 5, 2014 7:33:17 GMT -5
It's my favourite of the two Burton films and easily the best of that particular series.
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Post by dav on Aug 5, 2014 7:34:32 GMT -5
It felt a lot more like a Burton film than a Batman film and that rather hurt it in my eyes. Still, points for making it feel atmospheric and Danny DeVito was rather underrated in it.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 5, 2014 7:42:54 GMT -5
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 5, 2014 7:55:03 GMT -5
It gets a solid Meh from me.
parts of it I like but there is a ton of parts I find dumb and think giving Burton unlimited power harmed it more than helped it.
But it's not as bad as & Robin.
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Post by The Tank on Aug 5, 2014 7:57:03 GMT -5
I always say it's a Tim Burton movie that just happens to feature a character named The Bat-Man.
Basically what I say about The Dark Knight Rises: Great movie, pretty off the mark Batman movie.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 5, 2014 9:14:24 GMT -5
It's terrible, if you think about it for more than a few minutes. None of the plot elements make ANY damned sense at all, and it's as hokey as the later Schumacher stuff, only through a Burton filter.
That said, it's a blast to watch too.
Bad movie, highly entertaining.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 9:20:13 GMT -5
Nay. Too much of it makes no sense, contradicts big things about the character and it's just all too unpleasant and weird. Why would you WANT to save that city? There's nothing good about it.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 5, 2014 9:43:25 GMT -5
It's terrible, if you think about it for more than a few minutes. None of the plot elements make ANY damned sense at all, and it's as hokey as the later Schumacher stuff, only through a Burton filter. That said, it's a blast to watch too. Bad movie, highly entertaining. That's kinda where I'm at too. Fun movie, and I give it a slight "yay", with asterik that it hasn't aged well |
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Aug 5, 2014 10:21:12 GMT -5
It felt a lot more like a Burton film than a Batman film and that rather hurt it in my eyes. Still, points for making it feel atmospheric and Danny DeVito was rather underrated in it. That's the most common complaint about Batman Returns, that it felt more like a Burton film than a Batman film. I'm guessing that at the time (and even currently), that the audiences and comic book fans cringe at the thought of Batman using lethal force, unaware that Batman was capable of that during the Golden Age of Comics, and still maintained it for a while after Robin was introduced. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 5, 2014 10:24:23 GMT -5
It's a whole lot of cheese, but it's fun and visually has a lot going on for it, too. You can do much worse as far as superhero movies go, and it's much better than Batman and Robin, and a better movie than Batman Forever.
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Post by dav on Aug 5, 2014 10:35:37 GMT -5
It felt a lot more like a Burton film than a Batman film and that rather hurt it in my eyes. Still, points for making it feel atmospheric and Danny DeVito was rather underrated in it. That's the most common complaint about Batman Returns, that it felt more like a Burton film than a Batman film. I'm guessing that at the time (and even currently), that the audiences and comic book fans cringe at the thought of Batman using lethal force, unaware that Batman was capable of that during the Golden Age of Comics, and still maintained it for a while after Robin was introduced. It'd been fifty years since that point though, so no surprise that people don't really expect it from Batman. I also meant more like Burton in the look of Gotham and the villains as well as the aesthetics. Burton has a very singular style in some of his movies and Returns felt like it was more about the style that the substance of Batman itself. |
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Post by Cyno on Aug 5, 2014 10:39:11 GMT -5
I hated the movie when I was a kid. And I still hate it now. I guess it's the second best movie of that era by default, but that's not saying much.
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Post by CuJ0 Will Keep Dancing on Aug 5, 2014 11:20:58 GMT -5
Second favourite Batman movie behind The Dark Knight. Yeah, it's dumb and so are Forever/and Robin but to me, it is a different kind of stupid. I think it blended the campy and dark elements better than the Schumacher films. The villain interactions are better, the set's are great, I can watch it multiple times without getting tired of it.
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Post by oliveh20 on Aug 5, 2014 11:21:58 GMT -5
It's better than any of those long, boring Nolan movies.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Aug 5, 2014 12:57:42 GMT -5
I love it. Danny DeVito gives a great performance, same for Christopher Walken. Michelle Pfiefer is the best Catwoman next to Julie Newmar IMO and I love the Bruce/Selena dynamic in this movie. They capture it much better than DKR did.
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Aug 5, 2014 14:50:55 GMT -5
I don't care much for it. Psycho Batman in the first film didn't bother me because at the time I didn't know Batman was anti-guns/anti-killing. Despite the fact I consider the first Batman film to be my favorite superhero film to this day Batman Returns doesn't do much for me. I think it's because the villains were weak. Don't like the DiVito Penguin. Don't like how they did Catwoman's origin. The film also seems to just have too much of a Tim Burton feel to it. That is to say it just feels like some weird Tim Burton film more than a Batman film. People say the same about the first Batman but I feel that was wasn't quite as bad in that sense. With that said Returns was 1,000 times better than the other two sequels.
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