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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 10, 2014 7:18:33 GMT -5
The classic spot where a guy has his arm raised three times in a sleeper really makes no sense to me. Just for safety, if a guy has no ability to raise his hand even once...you should probably stop the match. But just for logical purposes, how could any guy not do it on the first attempt and be able to do it on the third attempt? You were out cold like ten seconds ago and the move has been applied since and presumably drained even more energy. How the hell are you reviving yourself?Because of the fans willing them on, obviously. It only works after three attempts. Last Man standing matches. Wrestlers are frequently down for longer than ten seconds in a match. These have always seemed so stupid to me. Especially when you can just tape your opponent's legs down (duct tape, are you kidding me?) Why wrestlers wait until the end of a match to turn heel Why they can take twenty weapon shots in a match where it's allowed but one chair shot where it's not allowed can take them out.
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Post by mrjl on Aug 10, 2014 7:36:44 GMT -5
The classic spot where a guy has his arm raised three times in a sleeper really makes no sense to me. Just for safety, if a guy has no ability to raise his hand even once...you should probably stop the match. But just for logical purposes, how could any guy not do it on the first attempt and be able to do it on the third attempt? You were out cold like ten seconds ago and the move has been applied since and presumably drained even more energy. How the hell are you reviving yourself?Because of the fans willing them on, obviously. It only works after three attempts. Last Man standing matches. Wrestlers are frequently down for longer than ten seconds in a match. These have always seemed so stupid to me. Especially when you can just tape your opponent's legs down (duct tape, are you kidding me?) Why wrestlers wait until the end of a match to turn heel Why they can take twenty weapon shots in a match where it's allowed but one chair shot where it's not allowed can take them out. the ten count is based off of boxing. And of course being down longer than ten seconds in a match where you don't have to get up before a ten count means nothing. If you're at a point where your opponent isn't attacking you and you're winded, why bother to force yourself up? Take a minute, try to catch your breath.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 10, 2014 7:39:09 GMT -5
Why did the divas voluntarily compete in lingerie and bikini matches but freak out when they lost in evening gown matches? Because they've just lost the deposit on evening gown rental, and those things don't come cheap. Duh.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 10, 2014 7:40:43 GMT -5
Why nobody ever hears Shawn or Orton thumping the mat before delivering their famous finishing moves even though everyone else in the arena can
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Aug 10, 2014 8:05:46 GMT -5
How guys who hate each other wait until they are both in the ring before beating each other up. That's fine, except they were BOTH backstage and came out of the same curtain, so logically, they were just backstage apparently standing right next to each other.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 10, 2014 8:18:24 GMT -5
if the champion gets disqualified in a title match he always keeps his title. what incentive is there for a heel champ to not always immediately get himself disqualified every time?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 8:53:21 GMT -5
1. In modern WWE matches with 4+ guys, there are usually always two guys fighting in the ring while all the other guys just kind of lay around hurt, either on the ring apron or outside the ring on the floor. Then one or both of those guys end up getting knocked out of the action and another two guys end up fighting in the ring. This is especially noticeable during MITB matches, which are stupid beyond comparison once you look past the cool ladder spots.
2. The Mr. Money in the Bank angle is one most retarded things WWE has ever come up with. Dude carries a briefcase around for up to a year and waits for an opportunity for the champion to be so beaten up that he has no chance of winning, then he cashes it in to win and acts like his dream just came true. A decade ago this would have been a heelish thing to do but now the fans cheer it like it's some great accomplishment.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 10, 2014 8:59:16 GMT -5
Why nobody ever hears Shawn or Orton thumping the mat before delivering their famous finishing moves even though everyone else in the arena can Sometimes they hear it, often, long set ups like that get reversed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 9:18:33 GMT -5
Why nobody ever hears Shawn or Orton thumping the mat before delivering their famous finishing moves even though everyone else in the arena can Sometimes they hear it, often, long set ups like that get reversed. Which kinda adds a whole new layer to why the thumping setup doesn't make any sense.
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Post by willywonka666 on Aug 10, 2014 9:59:15 GMT -5
I remember being like 7 and my brother put me in the Boston crab. It felt good. Like a good stretch. I remember pondering this fact for a year or two wondering what secret wrestling technique we missed that made it hurt other wrestlers so much. A friend once put me in it and I was afraid he was going to break my f***ing spine
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Post by Main Eventer on Aug 10, 2014 10:13:32 GMT -5
Why two people would have a private conversation, even though there is clearly a camera man watching them and broadcasting to millions of people.
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Post by Goldenbane on Aug 10, 2014 10:25:48 GMT -5
Why does ANYONE use a headlock? It's never beaten anyone, it never does any good, and usually you either get picked up and dropped, or elbowed in the stomach a bunch of times for your trouble.
Why isn't there any time limits on matches? The vast majority of every other sport has some sort of time limit.
If you're a big strong wrestler, going up against a much smaller wrestler, why not just pick them up and smash them against the turnbuckles a few dozen times? There's no rule against it, and it would hurt just as bad as getting clobbered by some foreign object (which seem to knock guys completely unconscious after just one or two hits). Sure, it's tiring, but I'll bet a guy like Brock Lesnar could smash a guy like Rey Mysterio against the turnbuckle quite a few times before getting tired.
Why don't the "good guys" use the "bad guys" own dirty tricks against them? Get your own gang of 15 guys and beat them up as they are coming to the ring. Bash them in the head with objects. Grab the rope to cause more damage during a hold. Really, wrestling should be over flowing with heelish behavior.
Why do fans turn against good heroic wrestlers after a while? If the evil wrestlers were doing similar horrible things to THEM, the fans wouldn't be rooting them on.
Why can the Undertaker do his classic sit up after 600+ pounds of Yokozuna leg drops him, but he's out for the count if 300 pounds of Hulk Hogan leg drops him?
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Post by ERON on Aug 10, 2014 11:02:29 GMT -5
William Regal pretty much explains all of this when he's on NXT. It's amazing how easily an announcer can make you suspend your disbelief, For all the (mostly deserved) flack that Larry Zbyszko gets as an announcer, this is one thing I always thought he was really good at. The one that sticks out in my mind was covering for a wrestler - I don't recall whom - who had heavily taped up one of his legs to sell a kayfabe injury, but had taped up the wrong leg. Zbyszko explained that it was an old wrestling trick that he used to use himself - tape up the healthy leg, so that your opponent will work on that one instead of the one that's really injured. Of course, then you'd have two injured legs, but whatever, it's still a nice touch.
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Post by ERON on Aug 10, 2014 11:16:48 GMT -5
Why isn't there any time limits on matches? The vast majority of every other sport has some sort of time limit. Remember when matches used to end in time limit draws? They should bring that back. It's a better way to set up a PPV blowoff match than just having two guys trade wins every week on Raw and Smackdown, or having a guy repeatedly beat the champion in nontitle matches. I hate the concept of the 3 Stages of Hell match. It's not like an ordinary 2-out-of-3 falls match. Whoever wins the 1st stage is always going to lose the 2nd stage because you know it's going to go to the 3rd stage, or what's the point of even booking it?
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Post by weaselboy on Aug 10, 2014 11:32:18 GMT -5
[/quote]the ref is touching you moving you around and that wakes you up some[/quote]
Taken out of context that quote looks downright sinister!!! Like something out of a police report.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Aug 10, 2014 11:59:03 GMT -5
if the champion gets disqualified in a title match he always keeps his title. what incentive is there for a heel champ to not always immediately get himself disqualified every time? Because if you do that too often, the ref will usually change the rules on the spot so that the heel loses the title on a DQ. Same with count-outs.
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Aug 10, 2014 16:35:16 GMT -5
When a babyface saves his friend from the heels who were beating him up, it seems that the heels, while slowly walking backwards clutching their ribs and heads, set up a forcefield at the ring that prevents the face from going after him, leaving the face unable to do anything but stand at the ropes, point and yell at them.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 10, 2014 16:37:32 GMT -5
When a babyface saves his friend from the heels who were beating him up, it seems that the heels, while slowly walking backwards clutching their ribs and heads, set up a forcefield at the ring that prevents the face from going after him, leaving the face unable to do anything but stand at the ropes, point and yell at them. While their face is displayed on the screen behind the departing heels
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Aug 10, 2014 18:35:36 GMT -5
The automatic rematch clause thing seems to sometimes be a thing, mostly used by heels, but sometimes is never mentioned. Doesn't seem to be an official thing, and is often ignored.
I don't get it when Colt Cabana isn't a successful superstar in WWE.
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Aug 10, 2014 18:47:10 GMT -5
They're supposed to be professional athletes, right? You'd think they'd watch their opponents matches, or even some wrestling matches. NFL players spend a lot of time watching tape.
Wrestlers keep on making boneheaded mistakes or fail to counter moves that they know are coming. Like getting lured into the ring in tag matches, so that their partner gets double teamed by the heels behind the refs back, or fail to counter Rey's wheelbarrow bulldog (which must have fifteen ways to counter it (wheelbarrow facebuster, wheelbarrow suplex, belly to back suplex, high angle atomic drop, side effect, blue thunder driver, Bubba bomb, just dropping the fool... ) or trying to powerbomb Kidman.
Also this situation: 'You've humiliated me, you've killed my dog, you beat up my family, you tried to run me over, you tried to get me fired, you stole my girlfriend, but this sunday, we're going to meet in this very ring, and, God as my witness, I'm going to abide by professional wrestling rules and pin your shoulders to the mat for the count of three!'
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