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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 6, 2014 22:40:27 GMT -5
Who needs credibility and victories when you can stand at ringside dressed in a weird black coat thing headlocking an invisible man and STILL be the most over man in the arena at that moment in time?
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Post by lemonyellowson on Oct 6, 2014 22:42:24 GMT -5
yeah the crowd reaction he got tonight was great.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 22:43:28 GMT -5
I appreciate. The guy seems to make the best out of whatever is given to him.
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Post by Lancers on Oct 6, 2014 22:48:07 GMT -5
I appreciate. The guy seems to make the best out of whatever is given to him. That's exactly why he's over with the livelier crowds. They respect how hard he commits to all the shit this stubborn company throws at him and makes the most of it. He doesn't have to be a world champ, but he certainly should be doing more than mimicking the Miz ringside and eating pinfalls like they're Milk Duds.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 6, 2014 22:50:46 GMT -5
He's great. Just great in any role he's in.
Sad thing is, he's playing second fiddle to a guy he's easily ten times more talented than by anything you wanna judge.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 6, 2014 22:54:21 GMT -5
Best thing on Raw. He's knocking it out of the park.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 6, 2014 22:56:03 GMT -5
He's great. Just great in any role he's in. Sad thing is, he's playing second fiddle to a guy he's easily ten times more talented than by anything you wanna judge. I wouldn't say Sandow is "ten times better" than Miz. I'd rate them pretty much the same.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 22:56:32 GMT -5
YOu know there's a lot of bitching about smarky crowds, but a really cool thing about them is that guys like Sandow get noticed. He's been in the background being very entertaining, and that crowd was full of fans that notice that stuff and love it.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 6, 2014 22:57:38 GMT -5
He's great. Just great in any role he's in. Sad thing is, he's playing second fiddle to a guy he's easily ten times more talented than by anything you wanna judge. I wouldn't say Sandow is "ten times better" than Miz. I'd rate them pretty much the same. It's not even close. In the ring, on the mic, as a character--- Damien is so much better than Miz it's embarrassing. I get Miz is your guy, but he's not on Sandow's level.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 6, 2014 22:57:50 GMT -5
He's great. Just great in any role he's in. Sad thing is, he's playing second fiddle to a guy he's easily ten times more talented than by anything you wanna judge. I honestly wouldn't go that far. Both Miz and Damien are bigger personalities than they are straight up wrestling talents, and Sandow's just really, really damn good at ring comedy, which is great because that's a part of wrestling I'd never want to see go. Both guys are what I'd call Bread and Butter wrestlers, moveset wise.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Oct 6, 2014 23:09:03 GMT -5
He's great. Just great in any role he's in. Sad thing is, he's playing second fiddle to a guy he's easily ten times more talented than by anything you wanna judge. I wouldn't say Sandow is "ten times better" than Miz. I'd rate them pretty much the same. You're going to catch heat for saying that because of your rep here, but you aren't too far off. They're pretty much the same in-ring, both being products of the old DSW/OVW system. The thing with Sandow is that he can turn anything he's given into gold, while Miz needs to be a certain character to be over.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 6, 2014 23:10:52 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Sandow is "ten times better" than Miz. I'd rate them pretty much the same. You're going to catch heat for saying that because of your rep here, but you aren't too far off. They're pretty much the same in-ring, both being products of the old DSW/OVW system. The thing with Sandow is that he can turn anything he's given into gold, while Miz needs to be a certain character to be over. Hell, I'd say the same, not even as a knock on Miz, but mainly as a way of saying, "Damn, Sandow is perfect at wrestling comedy". If he yucked it up like Santino did, I'd be less sold on it, but his character still carries himself with dignity, even when by all rights, he shouldn't. It's part of what makes it so fun.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 6, 2014 23:12:17 GMT -5
It's not even close. In the ring, on the mic, as a character--- Damien is so much better than Miz it's embarrassing. I get Miz is your guy, but he's not on Sandow's level. Personality I agree, mic I'd say Sandow edges, in-ring wise Miz is better. Sandow is a great personality but a very mediocre wrestler. He's so utterly basic, dull and generic and for someone who spent so long in development; that's not good enough. Again, outside of the ring he's amazing. His delivery is great, his facial expressions are great and his mannerisms are great but inside the ring he's just mediocre whereas Miz is solid if unspectacular.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Oct 6, 2014 23:16:47 GMT -5
You're going to catch heat for saying that because of your rep here, but you aren't too far off. They're pretty much the same in-ring, both being products of the old DSW/OVW system. The thing with Sandow is that he can turn anything he's given into gold, while Miz needs to be a certain character to be over. Hell, I'd say the same, not even as a knock on Miz, but mainly as a way of saying, "Damn, Sandow is perfect at wrestling comedy". If he yucked it up like Santino did, I'd be less sold on it, but his character still carries himself with dignity, even when by all rights, he shouldn't. It's part of what makes it so fun. Sandow is funny BECAUSE he seems to take everything so seriously. If it seemed like Sandow (the character) was taking the piss out of Miz, it wouldn't nearly be as funny. But because he seriously thinks he is doing the right thing, whether it's being Miz's stunt double or dressing up as Lance Stephenson, it is amazing.
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Post by lildude8218 on Oct 6, 2014 23:18:09 GMT -5
Mizdow
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Post by benstudd on Oct 6, 2014 23:21:52 GMT -5
He's great. Just great in any role he's in. Sad thing is, he's playing second fiddle to a guy he's easily ten times more talented than by anything you wanna judge. I wouldn't say Sandow is "ten times better" than Miz. I'd rate them pretty much the same. They are similar talent-wise but I think Sandow probably has more potential as a Top guy(even if Vince is not seeing it). And that's the sad thing.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Oct 6, 2014 23:24:21 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Sandow is "ten times better" than Miz. I'd rate them pretty much the same. They are similar talent-wise but I think Sandow probably has more potential as a Top guy(even if Vince is not seeing it). And that's the sad thing. Sandow is perfect for the mid-card, and would be exposed if he moved up the card. He's one of the last people, along with Miz, to work the mid-2000s WWE style that drove so many people away to TNA and ROH. Cena was the same way, but upped his game incredibly. Sandow works in smaller doses, there is no shame at all with being in the IC/US scene, making hundreds of thousands of dollars on the biggest stage doing what you love.
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Post by Ginger Beer Man on Oct 6, 2014 23:24:27 GMT -5
It's just ridiculously stupid, but ridiculously good!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 23:28:02 GMT -5
Sandow's offense looks a lot better than Miz's, he works pretty similar to Trips back in his Hunter Hearst Helmsley days. He's also showed some nice cowardly heel chops the way he would roll out of the ring, get thrown in and keep rolling out the other side, stuff like that. I think he's substantially better than Miz in the ring, and as the Intellectual Savior of the Unwashed Masses he showed a lot talent as a talker.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 6, 2014 23:39:11 GMT -5
Sandow reminds me a lot of Regal. Not wrestling skills wise. But the fact that he can just do little tiny, subtle mannerisms, expressions and gestures that add to matches and segments that he's in and make them awesome. It's the things like the tiny half second delay between doing Miz's mannerisms that make it work so well.
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