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Post by ChitownKnight on Oct 6, 2014 23:11:39 GMT -5
I like the guy but its no secret that hes been hogging the spotlight for over a decade. Is Cena hate worse now that hes been on top for several years? I feel like he got a lot of hate in 2006, but by 2007 people warmed up to him and respected him but now hes getting more hate than ever with people actually thinking that he's going to beat Ambrose and Rollins in the same night
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 23:17:10 GMT -5
I'd say it is. 2006 he was still fresh and it felt like he was being shoved down our throats. 8 years later, it's the same, only people are getting tired of it
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Post by Error on Oct 6, 2014 23:17:42 GMT -5
No. 06-07 was bad. I really cannot put into words how bad it was. You couldn't go into a thread without Cena hate. Seriously, you could have a thread on the positives of a Diva's breasts and within three posts there'd be something hating on Cena.
Now we more live in fear.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 6, 2014 23:17:58 GMT -5
I don't hate him, I'm just really bored with him.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Oct 6, 2014 23:20:34 GMT -5
It isn't close. At least these days the "Cena Sucks" chants are in reference to the character, not the performer. Most people who follow wrestling closely know that Cena is one of the best right now, if not all time. Back before the torn pec, people really wanted to see Cena go away. He was still green at that point and the majority of the wrestling community wanted anyone else in that spot.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 6, 2014 23:21:45 GMT -5
I'd say no because now, everybody can generally agree that he's an excellent wrestler who continues to put on great matches whereas in 2006; people didn't think that.
I'm a Cena fan though but I am utterly sick of him. He needs either a long hiatus for a good half a year or a drastic character change. I'm not saying turn him heel but, given all the teasing and guys trying to bring out the worst in Cena. Have him change, keep him face but have him more serious and revenge driven rather than a goofball who just laughs off any threat and makes stupid jokes.
They are kinda going the right direction in his current storyline where he's leaving the lame jokes and insults behind. A more serious, less jokey and goofy Cena could work wonders.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 23:22:56 GMT -5
I like the guy but its no secret that hes been hogging the spotlight for over a decade. Is Cena hate worse now that hes been on top for several years? I feel like he got a lot of hate in 2006, but by 2007 people warmed up to him and respected him but now hes getting more hate than ever with people actually thinking that he's going to beat Ambrose and Rollins in the same nightIt's possible unfortunately. With that Cena interview last week, WWE is painting the picture that Cena (not Ambrose, not Rollins or even Reigns) has the ability to take on Lesnar but he, John Cena, can. With that said, we're supposed to believe that Cena has the ability to beat them. Whether they've "leveled up" from last week to HIAC is up for debate but yeah, it can potentially happen given we all know who's call matters most.
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Post by blackmegaman on Oct 6, 2014 23:37:29 GMT -5
I say the seething hatred that the majority of the "Smark/ICW/hardcore" has dulled since then , I mean there are still plenty of fans who have that feeling towards him and the booking of him , but it's not really the overwhelming sentiment that it was back then.
Plus you have to add the fact that the reason fans didn't like him then are probably not same now in 2014.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Oct 7, 2014 0:02:59 GMT -5
I like the guy but its no secret that hes been hogging the spotlight for over a decade. Is Cena hate worse now that hes been on top for several years? I feel like he got a lot of hate in 2006, but by 2007 people warmed up to him and respected him but now hes getting more hate than ever with people actually thinking that he's going to beat Ambrose and Rollins in the same nightIt's possible unfortunately. With that Cena interview last week, WWE is painting the picture that Cena (not Ambrose, not Rollins or even Reigns) has the ability to take on Lesnar but he, John Cena, can. With that said, we're supposed to believe that Cena has the ability to beat them. Whether they've "leveled up" from last week to HIAC is up for debate but yeah, it can potentially happen given we all know who's call matters most. If Cena goes clean over both Ambrose and Rollins, I'm honestly done. I don't have cable or the WWE Network at the moment, but I'll refuse to go to their official YouTube page or something. Fear me Vince McMahon.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 0:28:49 GMT -5
On here? Nah. A lot of people have gotten bored complaining about Cena so they just ignore him now.
Live crowds? He's definitely more hated. It's almost a novelty if he actually gets a 50/50 crowd reaction these days. Even in the midwest he has trouble managing that in 2014. Now he ends up being the heel in damn near every segment he's in. They're even designing segments with this in mind unless he's standing in the ring cutting a promo alone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 0:30:05 GMT -5
It's possible unfortunately. With that Cena interview last week, WWE is painting the picture that Cena (not Ambrose, not Rollins or even Reigns) has the ability to take on Lesnar but he, John Cena, can. With that said, we're supposed to believe that Cena has the ability to beat them. Whether they've "leveled up" from last week to HIAC is up for debate but yeah, it can potentially happen given we all know who's call matters most. If Cena goes clean over both Ambrose and Rollins, I'm honestly done. I don't have cable or the WWE Network at the moment, but I'll refuse to go to their official YouTube page or something. Fear me Vince McMahon. I wouldn't blame you, if they have Cena go over Ambrose and Rollins then they haven't learned anything these past 2 years.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Oct 7, 2014 0:32:44 GMT -5
I say the seething hatred that the majority of the "Smark/ICW/hardcore" has dulled since then , I mean there are still plenty of fans who have that feeling towards him and the booking of him , but it's not really the overwhelming sentiment that it was back then. Plus you have to add the fact that the reason fans didn't like him then are probably not same now in 2014. They aren't exactly the same, but they are related. The main issue was Cena being booked to strongly, and that sure as hell hasn't changed. While he is lightyears a better overall performer than he was 8 years ago, he still shouldn't be the entire focus of the product.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Oct 7, 2014 0:43:38 GMT -5
Once again I point to the obvious scenarios of what happened with Ziggler, Sandow, and Bray in terms of the aftermath regarding a feud with Cena. If they go with the stupid route and have Cena beat Ambrose, Rollins, and then dethrone Brock? Yes, I'll definitely be done with the product.
They had a golden opportunity to do something completely different with the character and product. Brock, booking wise in my opinion, should've destroyed Cena at Night of Champions again putting him on the shelf and allowing something new and fresh to transpire. No, not a feud with Big Show, but a new direction that would utilize guys like Sheamus, Miz, Ziggler, Bray, Sandow, Rollins, Ambrose, Reigns, Wade Barrett, Big E, and Cesaro into leading the company as the future of the business.
Instead they shoehorned Cena into one of the hottest feuds of the product and they're too stubborn to change it. Look, did they hear that pop Ambrose got when he attacked Cena? Fans are sick of the character Cena, they want him to go away, or at least attempt something unique with him.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Oct 7, 2014 0:53:49 GMT -5
Cena was less respected in 2006, but the burnout is stronger now.
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Post by ededdneddy on Oct 7, 2014 1:03:34 GMT -5
It isn't close. At least these days the "Cena Sucks" chants are in reference to the character, not the performer. Most people who follow wrestling closely know that Cena is one of the best right now, if not all time.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Oct 7, 2014 1:09:40 GMT -5
It isn't close. At least these days the "Cena Sucks" chants are in reference to the character, not the performer. Most people who follow wrestling closely know that Cena is one of the best right now, if not all time. {Spoiler}{Spoiler} Hidden in true WWE tradition.
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Post by -Lithium- on Oct 7, 2014 1:53:06 GMT -5
No. Not even close. In 2006 he got a majority of boos in pretty much every arena. Even at SNME in Dallas, they were cheering Edge over him. Same thing in Boston, which is where Cena is from. The Cena hate in 2006 was absolutely insane. It wasn't even close to just being IWC. It was the IWC AND the casual fan. Nearly EVERY PPV ended with Cena holding the title, looking sad as the crowd booed him out of the building. Well deserved, too. Not so much for Cena, but for WWE shoving him down peoples throats. I think he's alot more respected today...
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 7, 2014 1:57:08 GMT -5
Personal hate toward John Cena the man? No. He's leaps and bounds better in the ring than he was eight years ago. In terms of his presentation and character? It sure sounds like it, and personally speaking I'm definitely a lot more tired of it than I was in 2006, where if I wanted to watch a Cena-less show, I could just turn on Smackdown.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Oct 7, 2014 1:58:27 GMT -5
Hate? No.
What we have now is almost complete apathy towards Cena. Regardless of what you think of him, he's always going to be at the top of the card.
That's just how it is and there's no sense in really thinking twice about it at this point.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Oct 7, 2014 2:01:59 GMT -5
Lol I actually felt really bad for him tonight. Even after trying to get the rub from the woman who delivered the great speech to fight against cancer by hugging her, he still got a mixed reaction. I think even if Cena discovered the cure for cancer he still would get a mixed reaction...
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