Is Cena hate worse now than it was in 2006?

[King Devitt and the Woke Mob]

yup. In 2006 people were just rolling his eyes at his cornball stuff.

But now it's EIGHT years later. And he's exactly the same.

[FAR5222]

All I know is I'm sick of the dueling chants. I was yelling in my section during Raw about how the dueling chants are as stale as Cena and they thought about it and stopped and began chanting "you sold out" to Rollins. Then after Raw went off the air, Ambrose cut a promo saying the Cena sucks chants are stale and that he doesn't like him and Cena doesn't like him too but he respects him because he loves this business.

People just chant it because it is a part of the Cena character and the fact that his character is severely stale. The hate is nowhere near 06-07.

[Ryushinku]

2006 was worse. 2007 was a real banner year for Cena in the ring and that's what finally cooled things down. But 2006 was like Triple H Reign of Terror for Cena.

[KobashiChop]

People didnt respect him in 2006.


In 2014 people are tired of constantly watching Cena go over at the expense of new talent after new talent, and then the next rising thing (Punk/Bryan/Ambrose) get paired up with Cena so that Cena can be part of the big new babyface thing.

[Boo!]

No. Much of the Cena hate now is because its the thing to do, its crowd participation. Get up, have coffee, drive to work, boo Cena, come home and have sex with your wife.

Smarks are way off the mark if they think the boos are a considered assessment of the character or direction of the company

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

I think it's a different kind of hate now. the 2006 hate was because he was green as goose shit. now he's getting early Hogan in WCW treatment, where he's stale as hell and gets shoehorned into places he doesn't belong.

[angryfan]

Back then, it was worse in the fact that he went over universal crowd favorites. Him beating Angle, and making Angle, a man who's whole gimmick was that he could outwrestle anyone because he was an Olymipan and who was almost universally loved as a main eventer, just ate at people.

Now, now it's one of those "He can work, and damn he's a good dude, but please just do something that we don't expect, do anything we don't expect, just once, please, and for God's sake don't just formulaically beat all the up and coming guys that are getting crowd support".

Back then, people couldn't separate man from gimmick, but now people have done that, many people anyway (myself included). Anything WWE comes up with that makes me say, "Hey, this is good, maybe I'll buy a PPV to see the blowoff to this, or maybe I'll get the network since they're going to start featuring guys I'm really getting into", it goes the same route. Insert Cena, have him be the talking point, have whomever was getting reactiosn be second-bananaed or (if a heel) mocked and destroyed in short order.

My frustration is with creative, of course, but if I look at a static character, one who is in nearly paint by numbers feuds and who is shoehorned into angles or segments where things were clicking and interesting only to have the focus change to the formula, then why would I care?

It's not hate, for most I would wager, not anymore. I think at this point, it's resignation. If you like something, you have to either hope that it has nothing to do with Cena, or that no one will decide that what the story needs is his presence. If the former, then spend the money and understand that it's in a midcard or upper midcard bubble and be ok with that. If the latter, well, either try to just pay attention to the part you do like, or tune out. However, if people tune out, the focus will not be "Hey, they stopped watching when Cena got involved" it will be, "See, they really weren't over, that proves we needed Cena there".

[abjordans]

Last night a guy in the Raw thread said he would rather have cancer than sit through another Cena-ridden Raw.

[1 Free Moon-Down with Burger]

Oct 7, 2014 8:44:56 GMT -5 abjordans said:

Last night a guy in the Raw thread said he would rather have cancer than sit through another Cena-ridden Raw.

Those are what we call: 'Nut-Jobs'.

[Error]

Oct 7, 2014 9:01:06 GMT -5 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger said:

Oct 7, 2014 8:44:56 GMT -5 abjordans said:

Last night a guy in the Raw thread said he would rather have cancer than sit through another Cena-ridden Raw.

Those are what we call: 'Nut-Jobs'.

I didn't think he mentioned specified the type of cancer...

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

There's way less hatred now and just more resignation.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

I think 05-06 was worse because the crowd didn't believed that he retired Jericho, defeated Angle like 4 times, survived the elimination chamber, Triple H majorly exposed him on the HOF and on TV, then the One Night Stand.

I think that even Cena admitted that the fans are tired of him, but like there's no one worthy to take his spot, proof of it is his merch sales and the fact that he moves the needle. I think that if they got someone that could outdraw Cena, John would gladly step away.

[Loser troll. Please ban me]

Oct 6, 2014 23:11:39 GMT -5 ChitownKnight said:

I like the guy but its no secret that hes been hogging the spotlight for over a decade. Is Cena hate worse now that hes been on top for several years? I feel like he got a lot of hate in 2006, but by 2007 people warmed up to him and respected him but now hes getting more hate than ever with people actually thinking that he's going to beat Ambrose and Rollins in the same night

Because wwe would actually do such a thing.

[mizerable]

Probably not.

Cena used to really get me riled up and wanting to see him lose.

Now I don't even care. I gave up on ever going to a show, buying merchandise or openly endorsing the product in one way or another; all because of him, Triple H and Orton being spoon fed to us.

[Woo]

Oct 7, 2014 4:53:31 GMT -5 Boo! said:

No. Much of the Cena hate now is because its the thing to do, its crowd participation. Get up, have coffee, drive to work, boo Cena, come home and have sex with your wife.

Smarks are way off the mark if they think the boos are a considered assessment of the character or direction of the company

It's the complete opposite.

A lot of people booed him back then because he was overpushed and went over guys like Christian, Jericho and Angle, guys they wanted in the main events. A lot of people just joined in with the "you can't wrestle" stuff.

Now however they are so sick and tired of the fact the company refuses to push new guys that they've grown to hate Cena even more as he's the face of the company. His character and him in general are so stale that most of the fans outright reject every segment he's in as seen in his feud with Orton which resulted in a "we want Divas" chant from disgusted fans.

Also "smarks?" in 2014?!!! Come on man...

[Loser troll. Please ban me]

Oct 7, 2014 4:53:31 GMT -5 Boo! said:

No. Much of the Cena hate now is because its the thing to do, its crowd participation. Get up, have coffee, drive to work, boo Cena, come home and have sex with your wife.

Smarks are way off the mark if they think the boos are a considered assessment of the character or direction of the company

Utter nonsense.

Cheers and Boos are not as you may think predetermined by whats "in" they are how that particular crowd feels about someone, If that someone is a guy you like, too f***ing bad.

Secondly it is certainly an assessment of a guy, Do you think backstage if a guy is getting boo'd every night they go 'Bah that doesn't matter but we'll make sure the smarks think it does, haw haw haw" ?

Fact is currently we are in an era with abundant social media and smarter viewers, They know what they like and what they don't like.

[Woo]

Oct 7, 2014 15:39:33 GMT -5 Loser troll. Please ban me said:

Oct 7, 2014 4:53:31 GMT -5 Boo! said:

No. Much of the Cena hate now is because its the thing to do, its crowd participation. Get up, have coffee, drive to work, boo Cena, come home and have sex with your wife.

Smarks are way off the mark if they think the boos are a considered assessment of the character or direction of the company

Utter nonsense.

Cheers and Boos are not as you may think predetermined by whats "in" they are how that particular crowd feels about someone, If that someone is a guy you like, too f***ing bad.

Secondly it is certainly an assessment of a guy, Do you think backstage if a guy is getting boo'd every night they go 'Bah that doesn't matter but we'll make sure the smarks think it does, haw haw haw" ?

Fact is currently we are in an era with abundant social media and smarter viewers, They know what they like and what they don't like.

Also the fact that the WWE used this term "smark" has been their problem for the last couple of decades. No other company I can think of has been so slow to the rise of the internet as the WWE. TV shows like Lost and Buffy used online forums to stir up interest and debate and enjoyed fantastic online communities decades before the WWE got wind of it. Cartoons like the crazily popular My Little Pony have embrased their online fanbase and have even created new characters that will appeal to that sector of their auidence (Dr Who pony!).

But the WWE? Nooo.... People who have computes must be dorks! Virgin basement dwelling losers! I mean nobody would search for their hobby like say 'wrestling' online and try to discuss it with people right?!

Imagine if supermarkets acted as oblivious to the WWE? "What? You want to order your food shopping online?! Hahaha, you sad pathetic dweeb!!" But no, they've continued treat their fanbase with contempt for years before they suddenly became aware of how popular things like Twitter are and suddenly were like "Please tout us!! Come on, nobody else uses Tout now "

If they had their fingers on the pulse then they could have created their own forum like this one and got an instant critique of what the fans like and don't like, what's working and what's not working and they would never have had a situation like the 2014 Royal Rumble ever.

[Mid-Carder]

I'm generally a positive WWE fan. For the first time ever I made the statement today that if Cena wins at HIAC (certainly Ambrose at the very least) I'm done with WWE until the Rumble if not for good. I like Cena but I can't take anymore of him being pushed beyond the Next Top Star guys. He's starting to ruin my enjoyment of my lifelong interest

[barelybeastmode]

Wow people... You're making me really happy I wasn't actively watching back in '05 and '06.  Sheesh.

My sister and I were highly concerned hearing that Cena and Ambrose had to fight in order to get at Rollins.  Now I truly believe that concern was justified.

Cena is going to go over Ambrose 

And when he does... I guess I'll start using my monday nights to get through the dozens of shows sitting in my Netflix queue.

[The Tim Duncan Experience]

Just wondering about the possibility of Cena beating both Ambrose and Rollins in the same night at HIAC, did people feel the same about the night Jericho beat Austin and the Rock? Or was it more of you guys were in shock that they would put the title on Jericho?