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Post by Red Impact on Nov 12, 2014 16:39:37 GMT -5
On the matter of Darwin vs Mystique, this is how I would have handled it. Have Darwin's Face-Heel turn in First Class actually be legit instead of killing him off. During the time frame between First Class and Days of Future Past All of the Proto-Brotherhood mutants except for Mystique and Darwin got wiped out. Darwin has been captured by Thrask while Mystique is trying to save him. That way, the Sentinel's "always adapting" power makes more sense, and Mystique's crusade to kill Thrask is made more sympathetic. But alas, always gotta kill the black guy. Honestly, the philosphy of the series seems to be to introduce and write off as many mutants as possible, lest the audience care about someone other wasn't in the arcade game.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 12, 2014 17:58:51 GMT -5
I like Lawrence's Mystique better only because they've given her more to do besides be hot. Though Rebecca did get some great lines in the first films about how mutants shouldn't have to blend in etc. If the character had been developed more along those lines then, I might prefer her.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Apr 25, 2015 11:50:13 GMT -5
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Post by MichaelMartini on Apr 25, 2015 14:41:09 GMT -5
Honestly, neither comic character would work with the plot of the movie. They'd need Rogue for that. Due to comic book nature of continuously escalating character's powers, adaptation to survive actually became a facet of her powers back in the early 2000's. But they were confined to the limitations of her own power, like taking on a metal form or shifting her organs so bullets wouldn't kill her. Darwin gained spontaneous adaptations, gills if he was underwater, the ability to survive in space, etc. But the sentinels in the movies actually took on the powers of people they were fighting, which goes beyond adaptation and more into power mimicry, which neither were really able to do. Mystique never could mimic powers, unless they were just some physical attribute like wings, and Darwin didn't gain powers in so much as his body altered to survive it. The comics even had his power just teleport him away when he fought Hulk, rather than give him the strength to fight him. Granted, all that really says is that Darwin's death in First Class was all the more stupid. "I'm able to adapt to anything that would kil me, except this thing that's killing me!" I read comics too, man. I get it. Didn't Darwin end up on the wrong end of a tussle with a death god, and the best his powers could interpret something like that was to make Darwin himself into a god of death? But eh..the entire movie takes place in the past where Rogue isn't born yet, so that's not important to the discussion. Mystique doesn't do any of that metal skin shit here, so that's not applicable to the movies either. If you're going to use the blood or something of a character that make Sentinels who become immune to other people's powers and turn it into a weapon to be used offensively? With the characters you have it makes the most sense if they used Darwin for that. The really messed up thing is they still could've used that Bread Pudding Faced girl as an important figure in the plot; her killing Trask kick starts all the gears in motion anyway. She didn't need people scrambling for her blood, which apparently can be made into whatever-the-hell and we're just supposed to act like it makes sense. Seriously, we're in this weird movie blockbuster era that's all about using people's blood to do absurd shit. It's at the point now that the moment I know someone's blood is the MacGuffin, I have to struggle to not write it off as lazy. It's a movie trope that's been way overused. I think it would have been more logical and efficient to introduce Forge in those Vietnam scenes and reveal Trask is forcing him to create the Sentinels. Mystique tries to liberate him. Done and done. The blood thing was getting ahead of themselves. Merging bio technology to this microscopic degree seemed absurd for the 70s and what they've established in this universe. Creating killer robots is enough of a stretch. Why don't you try those first? I didn't like how Wolverine was shoe horned into the story considering he barely did anything in the last half. I didn't like how Quicksilver was discarded once he had his cool scene. Beast's paralysis cure was ridiculous. Why wasn't he sharing it with the rest of the world? It's only purpose was to create some unearned drama with Pro X forced addiction plotline. Why not just have him be depressed over the events of First Class? Magnetos powers made no sense. He controls magnetic fields, not metal itself. And how did he reprogram the sentinels with that power. Why would the trust Magento again. It's like the 4th or 5th time he ultimately betrays them in the movies. How was doing what they did, almost assassinating the president better than assassinating a senator? I'm positive they would continue with the sentinel program because Magneto lifted a fricking football stadium and almost killed the pres when if Mystique carried out the assassination they might not even know it was a mutant since she would've been disguised! The future scenes sucked too. Kitty's new powers made no sense. Bishops power is to absorb and redirect energy, but the sentinels kill him with energy blasts. What? They way the beat them was so lazy. Ok time to die now. X-Men die. And then all the movies we spent hours watching are erased. The love for this movie is baffling to me.
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