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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Dec 8, 2014 23:29:39 GMT -5
I think that should have shed light on Roman's biggest flaw.
He was given time, I'd assume a script, and PLENTY of prep time.... and he sounded just so.....LOST. Roman cannot give a heartfelt promo, or if he can I've never heard it.
Hell, claim he is so overwhelmed to cover for it, improvise SOMETHING! The Slow, methodical, "Babygurl" style promo doesn't work in this context and barely worked earlier because he had more energetic folks to work off of.
Simply put, Roman needs a manager, a tag partner, SOMEBODY to either work off of or act as a mouthpiece
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 8, 2014 23:30:21 GMT -5
Just wake me up when he gets that crowd backlash he's supposed to get.  Yeah, if they are gonna ride a dude's nuts, at least it's a guy that the live crowds are reacting positively to. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 23:30:44 GMT -5
The fans like him because WWE tries so hard to tell us how cool he is. Why can't "the machine" get behind guys who are legitimately talented? Wait, so WWE isn't constantly reminding us how cool and unhinged Dean Ambrose is? And WWE hasn't been telling us for about half a year about how Seth Rollins is the future of the business? Strange, I must have hallucinated all of that. |
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Post by Kay Faban on Dec 8, 2014 23:31:31 GMT -5
Peoples hate of him is so weird to me.
At least most people aren't trying to claim he isn't over again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 23:33:35 GMT -5
I am very confused at how a super over wrestler winning a fan vote is a bad thing. Roman's not the best but he is exciting as all get out which is why the fans like him so much. The fans like him because WWE tries so hard to tell us how cool he is. Why can't "the machine" get behind guys who are legitimately talented? Dude was getting big pops before they even started promoting The Shield members individually. Hell the first guy WWE tried to promote of The Shield individually was Dean Ambrose with him being the first member winning a singles title and getting most amount of mic time and being in the middle most of the time. Plus dude is talented. Pretty talented for a dude who was only wrestling for only two years before he got called up on the main roster. Plus dude knows how to hit the big spots big and at the right time. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 8, 2014 23:33:57 GMT -5
The fans like him because WWE tries so hard to tell us how cool he is. Why can't "the machine" get behind guys who are legitimately talented? Wait, so WWE isn't constantly reminding us how cool and unhinged Dean Ambrose is? And WWE hasn't been telling us for about half a year about how Seth Rollins is the future of the business? Strange, I must have hallucinated all of that. Those guys aren't being groomed to be "the guy" the way that Roman seemingly is. |
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Post by Starshine on Dec 8, 2014 23:37:36 GMT -5
 I think this is a pretty accurate representation of what WWE is going to be like over the next year. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 23:38:26 GMT -5
Those guys aren't being groomed to be "the guy" the way that Roman seemingly is. The only reason you know that Reigns is being groomed as "the guy" is because the dirtsheets come out with some non-story about it every couple of months. All three Shield dudes have gotten a buttload of TV time and have gotten nearly identical pushes. Ambrose has slipped a bit down the card with this Wyatt feud, but Rollins has been the top heel in the company for about 6 months now, whereas Reigns is still obviously the number two or number three face. |
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Post by xCompackx on Dec 8, 2014 23:46:17 GMT -5
Wait, so WWE isn't constantly reminding us how cool and unhinged Dean Ambrose is? And WWE hasn't been telling us for about half a year about how Seth Rollins is the future of the business? Strange, I must have hallucinated all of that. Those guys aren't being groomed to be "the guy" the way that Roman seemingly is. Seth Rollins is being groomed far more blatantly than Roman Reigns is, though. Seth won Money in the Bank, was captain of Team Authority, has been paired with HHH/Steph, given his own on-screen security team, has been nominated in almost all of the Slammy awards, and they're even teasing a Brock/Seth feud. Roman hasn't really had the chance to comepete with that. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 23:49:47 GMT -5
There is also nothing wrong with a forced push and giving many opportunities if you know it's going to work if other guys are more talented or not. In fact the fact it's working is even more impressive considering it's getting harder and harder to force push someone these days since the crowd is more aware and vocal of it.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 8, 2014 23:50:06 GMT -5
Those guys aren't being groomed to be "the guy" the way that Roman seemingly is. Seth Rollins is being groomed far more blatantly than Roman Reigns is, though. Seth won Money in the Bank, was captain of Team Authority, has been paired with HHH/Steph, given his own on-screen security team, has been nominated in almost all of the Slammy awards, and they're even teasing a Brock/Seth feud. Roman hasn't really had the chance to comepete with that. Seth is a heel. Even with all of those accolades, They're not trying to make him "face of the company". |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 8, 2014 23:51:36 GMT -5
I think this is a pretty accurate representation of what WWE is going to be like over the next year. He almost looks like he's a split second from having a stroke. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 23:55:03 GMT -5
Seth Rollins is being groomed far more blatantly than Roman Reigns is, though. Seth won Money in the Bank, was captain of Team Authority, has been paired with HHH/Steph, given his own on-screen security team, has been nominated in almost all of the Slammy awards, and they're even teasing a Brock/Seth feud. Roman hasn't really had the chance to comepete with that. Seth is a heel. Even with all of those accolades, They're not trying to make him "face of the company". They are still giving him the EvolutionOrton/Corporate/NationRock/Mid 90's HBK template buildup of creating the future mega Babyface of the company build! |
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Post by xCompackx on Dec 8, 2014 23:55:49 GMT -5
Seth Rollins is being groomed far more blatantly than Roman Reigns is, though. Seth won Money in the Bank, was captain of Team Authority, has been paired with HHH/Steph, given his own on-screen security team, has been nominated in almost all of the Slammy awards, and they're even teasing a Brock/Seth feud. Roman hasn't really had the chance to comepete with that. Seth is a heel. Even with all of those accolades, They're not trying to make him "face of the company". I get what you're saying, but being heel doesn't really exclude you from being groomed for a role like "face of the company". They've given Seth all of those things (and I'm not at all complaining, mind you) and all it would take is a face turn to put Seth in that position. John Cena started out heel and all it took was him turning face and winning the WWE Championship to start him on that path. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 8, 2014 23:59:57 GMT -5
Seth is a heel. Even with all of those accolades, They're not trying to make him "face of the company". I get what you're saying, but being heel doesn't really exclude you from being groomed for a role like "face of the company". They've given Seth all of those things (and I'm not at all complaining, mind you) and all it would take is a face turn to put Seth in that position. John Cena started out heel and all it took was him turning face and winning the WWE Championship to start him on that path. John Cena was a glorified comedy jobber that got his schtick over with the fans organically and turned face. He is in his current role due to Their other options being flops. If Randy Orton wasn't shitting in bags and Lesnar never left, Cena would be the "underutilized" talent we all complain about. WWE didn't decide from day one that Cena would be their flag bearer the way they have with Reigns. And Seth would probably only fall into that role if Reigns is a flop. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 0:02:32 GMT -5
Plus I'm sure Rollins will forever be a HHH guy. Like HHH made him the first NXT Champion when he took over developmental. You get sentimental to these kind of things like crowning your first ever champion of your promotion is like your first ever first round draft pick for your new sports franchise
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Post by gnr123 on Dec 9, 2014 0:07:04 GMT -5
I think this is a pretty accurate representation of what WWE is going to be like over the next year. Legit LOL'd |
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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on Dec 9, 2014 0:07:24 GMT -5
And people still think Roman vs. Lesnar isn't gonna happen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 0:09:50 GMT -5
I get what you're saying, but being heel doesn't really exclude you from being groomed for a role like "face of the company". They've given Seth all of those things (and I'm not at all complaining, mind you) and all it would take is a face turn to put Seth in that position. John Cena started out heel and all it took was him turning face and winning the WWE Championship to start him on that path. John Cena was a glorified comedy jobber that got his schtick over with the fans organically and turned face. He is in his current role due to Their other options being flops. If Randy Orton wasn't shitting in bags and Lesnar never left, Cena would be the "underutilized" talent we all complain about. WWE didn't decide from day one that Cena would be their flag bearer the way they have with Reigns. And Seth would probably only fall into that role if Reigns is a flop. Cena had one of the strongest and best debuts ever and he was main eventing Smackdown shows within his debut and defeating Jericho cleanly in his PPV debut. Dude got injured shortly after he turned heel and was limited to the mic since he coildnt wrestle during his brief appearances. When he came back from injury his feud was against Lesnar for the title that he won in a tournament looking strong beating Benoit, Taker, and Rikishi and his match against Rikishi was the first time we had a glimpse of Cena's super strength. Then he feuded with Angle and Undertaker and Benoit before turning face becoming one of two sole survivors in a tag match and rest is history. Edit: Oh yeah and Cena's in ring abilities were really criticized. Probably even more so then Reigns right now. Everyone was talking about how lost he looked despite working with Benoit, Angle, and Guerrero and Taker has to carry his ass in his only real good match. It felt like Cena didn't really improve his ring skills till late 05-06 |
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Dec 9, 2014 0:11:04 GMT -5
I think this is a pretty accurate representation of what WWE is going to be like over the next year. He almost looks like he's a split second from having a stroke. I am pretty certain that what he is doing in that pic *is* having a stroke. Just a different kind. |
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