Juice
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Post by Juice on Jan 28, 2015 19:18:48 GMT -5
If we ignore everything about HHH's goof ball heel work on screen, his fruit basket earning nxt ways etc. The dude has been very vocal over the last year or so about what he would do differently and his disagreements with Vince. That is what I look at as a sign of things changing for the better once Vince leaves. When someone has criticized something for logical reasons he is pretty open about fighting for another way to go about it. Charlotte's match on Raw for example. He said it was Vince's call and he would have liked a longer competitive bout.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 19:21:12 GMT -5
I'm not holding my breath. I think its easier to be the voice of reason when you're up against Vince, but if he ever got full control .... I just have this feeling he'd fall into the same/similar pitfalls.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jan 28, 2015 19:25:52 GMT -5
There's reason for optimism, but let's wait until HHH is answering to the exact same pressures Vince does right now.
Do I think HHH is probably better connected to the sensibilities of a 2015 audience than Vince is? Absolutely, but I'll reserve judgment on if that translates into better decision-making when that time comes.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 28, 2015 19:30:04 GMT -5
Triple H has had influence on the booking side of things since 1997 and has actively been involved with creative since 2000s, including some of the worst periods to be a fan. He sat idly by and watched his wife implement changes that have been detrimental to the overall product, the switch to scripting everything and exclusively hiring writers with zero experience in wrestling (Russo at least was a fan and a trained wrestler) and there's little evidence that he fought any of these things, heck, according to former writers the only thing he cared about is if booking would make him look good... So after all this time, he's now seen a a great wrestling purist? Nope, I'm not buying it, the main thing he has going for him is the fact he's not Vince, Steph or Dunn as the grass is always greener on the other side.
NXT benefits from not being Raw, people act like it's pure gold but really, it's as hit and miss as the WWE's programming but seems better as Raw is going through a long stretch of misses. It's basically post Heyman Smackdown, not great, but still has some great talent and is better than Raw so people overlook the flaws. I would not be surprised if he had a hand in the the spate of forced pushes that have happened since the fall of WCW, as he was a beneficiary of one himself way back when, he just had better talents to ride the coat tails of.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jan 28, 2015 19:36:58 GMT -5
Nope.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Jan 28, 2015 19:46:17 GMT -5
Some things will get better, some things will get worse.
Booking as a whole will probably be more logical, but I can see HHH picking "his guys" and pushing them hard regardless of the crowd, even more than currently. Roman's his after all. And the previous year was Batista, his buddy.
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Post by saintpat on Jan 28, 2015 20:00:14 GMT -5
He will be all things to all people for it is his way.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jan 28, 2015 20:12:11 GMT -5
To be honest, as much as I'm skeptical of the future under Trips, Steph in control is more scary to me.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jan 28, 2015 20:13:16 GMT -5
Some things will get better, some things will get worse. Booking as a whole will probably be more logical, but I can see HHH picking "his guys" and pushing them hard regardless of the crowd, even more than currently. Roman's his after all. And the previous year was Batista, his buddy. Always happened. Dusty had his guys, Flair had his, and so forth and so on. |
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Post by gr1990 on Jan 28, 2015 20:23:51 GMT -5
He'll be better than Vince, but let's not forget this is the man who was still in the top five hate figures of the hardcore fanbase as little as two years ago during his feud with Lesnar, and now he's the champion of all that is good in wrestling? Sure. Everything in his personality and way of doing business that people disliked about him back then is still there now. It's not a wrestling storyline, he hasn't turned face. And likewise, Vince isn't some evil tyrant who hates wrestling and wants to bury all of your favourites from NXT just cos he can. They both have their positives and negatives, it's just Hunter's negatives don't appear to outweigh his positives to the horrific extent that Vince's do these days.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 28, 2015 21:00:33 GMT -5
How weird is it that people expect HHH to be the savior? No one would've predicted that ten years ago.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Jan 28, 2015 21:02:47 GMT -5
Some things will get better, some things will get worse. Booking as a whole will probably be more logical, but I can see HHH picking "his guys" and pushing them hard regardless of the crowd, even more than currently. Roman's his after all. And the previous year was Batista, his buddy. Always happened. Dusty had his guys, Flair had his, and so forth and so on. Not saying it didn't, just saying anybody who expects otherwise is willfully kidding themselves. |
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Post by FAR5222 on Jan 28, 2015 21:09:35 GMT -5
This board has been melting down lately because of Reigns and HHH is the reason Reigns is in his spot for Mania. So when HHH has his Patterson like maybe Regal then yeah he could improve WWE but it will not be saved.
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Post by RIHT on Jan 28, 2015 21:42:30 GMT -5
If CM Punk returns when Triple H is in control, then we'll know he's not like the the person from the awful stories of him as a wrestler (anymore or ever, take it as you will) and that there is hope for change. If he keeps a dumb grudge and refuses to hire him back, it makes him as bad as Vince with Warrior and Bruno.
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Post by SinisterMinister on Jan 28, 2015 21:45:45 GMT -5
I find it odd that people think HHH is going to be making the calls when Vince is finished. Stephanie is probably going to be the one calling all the shots and having the final say. She is blood and a McMahon.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Jan 28, 2015 22:12:39 GMT -5
I think he'll try a few things his way and some of it might work and some of it might not. Honestly HHH needs to hope Vince doesn't kill it before he ever gets a fair shot. I think HHH at some point is going to let someone buy out WWE. Vince I see as someone saying "Not for Sale" but Hunter is another story.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 2:05:00 GMT -5
Oh, short answer, "yes" with an "if." Long answer, "no" with a "but."
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Jan 29, 2015 4:06:44 GMT -5
I won't say savior, but will it stop the hemorrhaging? I think so. If HHH was in charge I imagine he could write better promos for Reigns at least.
Kevin Dunn being gone will do sooooooooo much good for the product, particularly the women who bust their ass. I wouldn't be surprised the Divas division didn't have another golden age once Vince steps down and takes Dunn out of the equation. Hopefully soon, as I'd like to see Sasha and Charlotte get a fair shake, and Paige to actually be able to wrestle in her matches, and tell a story.
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Post by TGM on Jan 29, 2015 4:20:16 GMT -5
No, he is not. His first decision was to bring in Sin Cara. Nuff said' He is simply a talent who got lucky falling in love with the daughters boss. Please never stop postin. |
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Post by Digital Witness on Jan 29, 2015 5:32:16 GMT -5
No, he is not. His first decision was to bring in Sin Cara. Nuff said' He is simply a talent who got lucky falling in love with the daughters boss. Please never stop postin. That wasn't a mistake on Triple H's part. Mistico was widely regarded as the single best luchador in the world prior to his signing. If anything, Mistico didn't spend any time in developmental to adapt his style and the results showed. That's more Mistico's failure than Triple H's. As for some of the other business we've seen lately, I still feel that Reigns is more of a compromise with Vince than anything else, and also a bit of a trial by fire/sink or swim for Roman. They're not going to keep pushing him if he bombs. |
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