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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 14, 2024 17:56:44 GMT -5
So the first two episodes of the new Life is Strange are out and they're basically enough on their own that it's looking like this game's going to completely kill the franchise. The fanbase is pissed, to the point the top post on the subreddit is how to get a refund if you preordered it.
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Post by cosmo on Oct 14, 2024 19:49:20 GMT -5
So the first two episodes of the new Life is Strange are out and they're basically enough on their own that it's looking like this game's going to completely kill the franchise. The fanbase is pissed, to the point the top post on the subreddit is how to get a refund if you preordered it.
And it's apparently solely because {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Chloe and Max have gone their separate ways if you picked the first game's "Keep Chloe Alive" ending.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 14, 2024 19:53:15 GMT -5
So the first two episodes of the new Life is Strange are out and they're basically enough on their own that it's looking like this game's going to completely kill the franchise. The fanbase is pissed, to the point the top post on the subreddit is how to get a refund if you preordered it. And it's apparently solely because {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Chloe and Max have gone their separate ways if you picked the first game's "Keep Chloe Alive" ending. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}It seems like it's mostly that, though the reason itself they broke up itself is pretty stupid and dependent on Chloe being vastly out of character. And the other writing isn't exactly looking too promising either. I'm kind of on the side of thinking it's stupid and a bad sign but not finding it a dealbreaker personally, but I am definitely going to need to see and hear more before I commit to getting the game personally. Though I was already planning to do that before this.
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Post by cosmo on Oct 14, 2024 19:54:45 GMT -5
And it's apparently solely because {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Chloe and Max have gone their separate ways if you picked the first game's "Keep Chloe Alive" ending. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}It seems like it's mostly that, though the reason itself is pretty stupid. And the other writing isn't exactly looking too promising either. I'm kind of on the side of thinking it's stupid and a bad sign but not finding it a dealbreaker personally, but I am definitely going to need to see and hear more before I commit to getting the game personally. Though I was already planning to do that before this.
I was gonna get the game too, and as long as it's better than Life is Strange 2, I can live with the writing in general being less than stellar.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 14, 2024 21:27:08 GMT -5
Chloe and Max have gone their separate ways if you picked the first game's "Keep Chloe Alive" ending. [/spoiler] [/div][/quote] If that is permanent, then year--that is some f***ing bullshit. If it's temporary and {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Max and Chloe soon reunite, then I guess that is ok. But, I have a feeling it's going to be permanent because the developers wrote themselves into a hole having too wildly different endings and are too lazy to do two versions of this game depending on what choice you picked.
I can definitely see why people are pissed
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Post by Chiral on Oct 14, 2024 21:29:14 GMT -5
LiS: {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Would not surprise me if the only Chloe we get in the Bae over Bay side is just a scene of her reuniting with Max at the end for max money saving/ease of juggling the endings.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 14, 2024 21:33:33 GMT -5
Let's be honest though, Life is Strange is a franchise that's hanging on solely because the first game was so great but is followed by mediocrity.
1 - Amazing game Before the Storm - Good game, a step back from #1 but still a solid entry Life is Strange 2 - Absolute garbage, i am surprised this didn't kill the series to be honest. True Colors - Completely forgettable. Strong characters, but no actual plot and your choices did not matter at all.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Oct 14, 2024 21:47:19 GMT -5
Honestly thought it was a bad idea bringing Max back. Really wrote themselves into a corner. True Colors ruled and was a huge upgrade over 2 and honestly should have used it as a guideline for future games. Think I'll hold off on this one until I know for sure if one of the endings is worth it.
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Post by Chiral on Oct 14, 2024 21:58:30 GMT -5
Let's be honest though, Life is Strange is a franchise that's hanging on solely because the first game was so great but is followed by mediocrity. 1 - Amazing game Before the Storm - Good game, a step back from #1 but still a solid entry Life is Strange 2 - Absolute garbage, i am surprised this didn't kill the series to be honest. True Colors - Completely forgettable. Strong characters, but no actual plot and your choices did not matter at all. Sometimes I think about how 2 went and am completely baffled at how wrong it went at like every single turn, I hate that game lol. Misery booking in video game form.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 14, 2024 22:01:46 GMT -5
I genuinely get the sense that this game was written to have a new protagonist then hastily changed to Max to increase interest in it. Nothing I've seen of her dialogue feels like it fits her voice as a character, it's just a messy-ass concept even trying to follow up her story, and she has whole new powers and a whole new setting with a whole new supporting cast so there's basically nothing actually recognizably functioning as a sequel to the first game in this one anyway.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 15, 2024 0:53:52 GMT -5
Honestly thought it was a bad idea bringing Max back. Really wrote themselves into a corner. True Colors ruled and was a huge upgrade over 2 and honestly should have used it as a guideline for future games. Think I'll hold off on this one until I know for sure if one of the endings is worth it. I think True Colors could have been great, the characters and setting were good. But I just remember the plot being completely wafer thin and zero choices matter. It was a big improvement than Number 2, but it would be hard to be worse than Number 2.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 15, 2024 0:56:14 GMT -5
Sometimes I think about how 2 went and am completely baffled at how wrong it went at like every single turn, I hate that game lol. Misery booking in video game form. I am really surprised it didn't kill the franchise, it was that bad. It's the one LiS game I never managed to complete. The first one, is one of my all time favorite games. I love the story, I love the characters, I love the setting. Max and Chloe were both awesome.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Oct 15, 2024 1:03:08 GMT -5
So the first two episodes of the new Life is Strange are out and they're basically enough on their own that it's looking like this game's going to completely kill the franchise. The fanbase is pissed, to the point the top post on the subreddit is how to get a refund if you preordered it. Oh shit that's not good and surprising. I absolutely adored True Colors (one of my favorite games) so this is... Wow.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Oct 15, 2024 1:19:35 GMT -5
Sometimes I think about how 2 went and am completely baffled at how wrong it went at like every single turn, I hate that game lol. Misery booking in video game form. I am really surprised it didn't kill the franchise, it was that bad. It's the one LiS game I never managed to complete. The first one, is one of my all time favorite games. I love the story, I love the characters, I love the setting. Max and Chloe were both awesome. It had a fun set up with the free game playing as the little kid using his imagination to escape an abusive household. When it got to the reveal at the end, I was pretty interested. The whole game was just so soul sucking though. This sucks though. The first game is in my top ten all time and very disheartening this is the follow up to Max's story. Think I'll stick to the follow up comics instead.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 15, 2024 7:46:03 GMT -5
I couldn't even make it through the first episode of 2. Spending forever in boring tedium around the house just to then snap to, "And then everything falls apart implausibly quickly, and now we're just in the woods," and then that part goes on forever and the entire time the idiot kid brother comes off as intensely unlikable... Yeah, I eventually just turned it off and have given little consideration to trying it again. Then I tried Tell Me Why and ran into the same issue because I hated the brother and the sister's constant, "Who even cares, why should we even be invested in the plot?" resonated with me so I stopped playing it. Granted I also didn't make it past the first episode of Before the Storm. I really, really didn't like Rachel. Edit: Further out that apparently you actually get to pick the reason for that whole thing, which kind of makes it even worse. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}One of the explanations you can give is that Chloe died sometime after the first game so... Yeah, she's pretty much assuredly not going to be in this game at all.
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Post by cosmo on Oct 15, 2024 8:34:53 GMT -5
Edit: Further out that apparently you actually get to pick the reason for that whole thing, which kind of makes it even worse. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}One of the explanations you can give is that Chloe died sometime after the first game so... Yeah, she's pretty much assuredly not going to be in this game at all.
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Maybe I should be glad that I'm on the Bay>Bae side, so I probably won't have to worry about it.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 15, 2024 15:13:04 GMT -5
So now that people are actually playing the game they're kind of just getting even madder. Not helped by how they seem to be going out of their way to bury the other games as much as possible. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Couple of good examples are that Chloe became paranoid that Max was using her powers to manipulate her and that immediately after the photo of them in the second game they got into a huge fight. Yeah, this feels like it's going to kill the series.
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Post by cosmo on Oct 15, 2024 17:30:16 GMT -5
So now that people are actually playing the game they're kind of just getting even madder. Not helped by how they seem to be going out of their way to bury the other games as much as possible. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Couple of good examples are that Chloe became paranoid that Max was using her powers to manipulate her and that immediately after the photo of them in the second game they got into a huge fight. Yeah, this feels like it's going to kill the series.
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} To be fair, if I was dating a time traveler, I'd be thinking the same thing.
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 15, 2024 19:01:59 GMT -5
Haven't played Double Exposure yet but it sounds to me like {Spoiler}I'm guessing they didn't want to have to write for both scenarios and see the sacrifice Chloe ending as canon (which it should be, but still). Kind of reminds me of when Telltales The Walking Dead would go "you chose to save this person? Well they're still gonna die next episode anyway sorry".
It's the big problem with these choice-based games
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 16, 2024 12:06:03 GMT -5
On the second main city in Metaphor. It is an excellent game, my only complaint still is {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Time feels too rushed. They need to add an extra five days on each main event, just to give you that bit extra. In the last story segment, I ended up neglecting hanging with followers in order to do dungeons and level up. Persona seemed much more forgiving with time. And for any one playing and time managment {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}I have found the activities that waste the King traits are pointless for the most part. You get some of them by doing companion quests and dungeons and bounties.
Like the one to raise courage--you get four courage from that, four from a bounty -- do a bounty instead and get the exp.
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