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Post by andrew8798 on May 3, 2015 14:18:19 GMT -5
Fighters react to Floyd's decision win over Manny
Jerome-Max Holloway ✔@blessedmma Textbook #Money #MayPac
Shane Mosley ✔@shanemosley_ I don't know about the decision being unanimous, but It was close. It could go either way. rounds were close on my card. #MosleySays
Josh Samman ✔@joshsamman A non climactic Mayweather fight.. Who woulda thought? #mma > #boxing
Oscar De La Hoya ✔@oscardelahoya Sorry boxing fans.
Babalu's Iron Gym @babalusirongym I don't agree @mannypacquiao is the champ of night
Fabricio Werdum ✔@fabriciowerdum Maywether it's sucks
Phillipe Nover @phillipenover I give Manny credit. He came forward and wanted to box. Seemed like Floyd was content with sitting on the ropes and dancing around.
Eddie Bravo @eddiebravo As a former boxing fanatic,this was the last nail on the coffin for me .I would rather watch pre-season midget slam ball in the snow
The Spartan ✔@eliastheodorou I don't know, I thought Floyd's toughest fight was still against the Big Show. #neverforget
Shayna Baszler ✔@qosbaszler Mayweather landed more strikes & also had more submission attempts #guillotine #MayPac
michael ✔@bisping Max kellerman is bit of a prick with manny.
Josh Samman ✔@joshsamman The really expensive circus is over folks! Please turn back in your "boxing expert" cards at the door.
Cathal Pendred ✔@pendred The winner of the fight..... MMA.
Rashad Evans ✔@sugarashadevans Congrats to @floydmayweather! Manny got caught watching too much. He watched so much he might as well bought a ticket to the fight.
Tyson & Malignaggi thoroughly underwhelmed by Mayweather vs. Pacquiao: 'We waited 5 years for that'
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Post by mattperiolat on May 3, 2015 14:40:14 GMT -5
HHH tweets Floyd support, Beadle says she gives up on WWE, lol. If HHH spent as much time blowing his wife as he did Money this week, he might actually have a son by now.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2015 14:43:46 GMT -5
A caller on the Mike Lupica show had an excellent comment by saying he saw tougher fights at the Waffle House. I followed the results on the radio & thought the whole thing was a complete joke. Money well spent!
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Post by chazraps on May 3, 2015 15:37:13 GMT -5
Boxing f***ing sucks. I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound hateful about it but really, it's boring as hell. I can't believe there's still that much money involved in boxing. Mayweather made 100 million last night. That's nuts. I hope you guys feel good about spending that much on a boring fight. That wasn't an example of boxing last night. That was a 36 YEAR OLDvs. a 38-YEAR-OLDPac, while still very good, hasn't been in his prime for about four years. Mayweather's always been strictly defense. Calling that an example of what boxing in 2015 is like would be like calling that last Hogan-Sting match from 2011 an example of wrestling. It's so far removed from what sport has to offer and just captured the mainstream attention because Mayweather knows how to market and make people think being "undefeated" means absolutely anything when you don't have a real war on your legacy. If you want to rate boxing, watch that last NBC special from a few weeks ago.
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Post by angryfan on May 3, 2015 16:05:20 GMT -5
I get it, Floyd is undefeated, and is so worried about running into his Buster Douglas that he doesn't quite grasp the massive difference. He's Ali's rope-a-dope without the devastating offense, he's Mike Tyson's "he never loses" without the killer instinct Mike had in his prime.
He knows how to market himself, as the villain that everyone wants to see lose, but who will play classic wrestling heel and do the Larry Zybysko stall for fie rounds while the judges award him each one for his "scientific defense".
Pac is older, in boxing years he's ancient, and Floyd's whole life professionally is protecting the "undefeated" streak since that's literally all he has. He has no Ali-Frazier, no Ali-Foreman, no Leonard-Duran, just that zero in the loss column and half of his wins coming courtesy the judges at ringside.
Just to compare, here are some all time greats (subjective, I know) and their KO percentage.
Ali - 60.6. Foreman - 83.95 (I had no clue how high his record of laying people out was) Joe Louis - 75.36 Tommy Hearns - 71.64 Julio Cesar Chavez - 107-4 and a KO percentage of 74.78. Dude had twice as many knockouts as Mayweather has had fights. Even De la Hoya, who was accused of avoiding a punch quite a bit, knocked out 66.67 percent of his opponents.
Point blank, I look at these guys, some of whom I grew up watching, and they were boxers, not just punchers. Yet somehow the new narrative out of Money's camp is that since he has that zero in the L column, it's somehow more than the wars The Champ had or Foreman coming back as an old father of five and still bringing some thunder with him, or Chavez pretty much staying eternal. Those are boxers, and I miss that.
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Post by JTH on May 3, 2015 16:26:33 GMT -5
I get it, Floyd is undefeated, and is so worried about running into his Buster Douglas that he doesn't quite grasp the massive difference. He's Ali's rope-a-dope without the devastating offense, he's Mike Tyson's "he never loses" without the killer instinct Mike had in his prime. He knows how to market himself, as the villain that everyone wants to see lose, but who will play classic wrestling heel and do the Larry Zybysko stall for fie rounds while the judges award him each one for his "scientific defense". Pac is older, in boxing years he's ancient, and Floyd's whole life professionally is protecting the "undefeated" streak since that's literally all he has. He has no Ali-Frazier, no Ali-Foreman, no Leonard-Duran, just that zero in the loss column and half of his wins coming courtesy the judges at ringside. Just to compare, here are some all time greats (subjective, I know) and their KO percentage. Ali - 60.6. Foreman - 83.95 (I had no clue how high his record of laying people out was) Joe Louis - 75.36 Tommy Hearns - 71.64 Julio Cesar Chavez - 107-4 and a KO percentage of 74.78. Dude had twice as many knockouts as Mayweather has had fights. Even De la Hoya, who was accused of avoiding a punch quite a bit, knocked out 66.67 percent of his opponents. Point blank, I look at these guys, some of whom I grew up watching, and they were boxers, not just punchers. Yet somehow the new narrative out of Money's camp is that since he has that zero in the L column, it's somehow more than the wars The Champ had or Foreman coming back as an old father of five and still bringing some thunder with him, or Chavez pretty much staying eternal. Those are boxers, and I miss that. KO's are not what should show who's the best boxer, if anything, decision victories show that more than KOs. Because they show for an entire match, you were the superior to your opponent. And deep down, that is exactly what Floyd strives for. Embarrassing a fighter for 12 rounds because he knows they can't touch him. That shows the cockiness and greatness.
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Post by Mid-Carder on May 3, 2015 16:29:01 GMT -5
Floyd v Brock next, please. WWE's biggest buyrate ever.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2015 17:01:27 GMT -5
HHH tweets Floyd support, Beadle says she gives up on WWE, lol. Am I the only one who thinks this is pathetic on Beadle's part? Most people know Mayweather is not a good person. The ones that didn't know probably know now due to all the media coverage. The ones who boycotted the fight to prevent putting money in his pocket did what they felt was right. That's perfectly logical. The HHH's of the world (and many, many others) who just watched the fight for the event, have a difference of opinion. That doesn't mean HHH supports domestic violence, and it's ridiculous for Beadle to even insinuate that anyone who publicly supports Mayweather should be criticized for it. Maybe someone should tell Beadle that Austin had domestic abuse problems and that she should have boycotted the WWE a long time ago since he's had appearances off and on. I'm not a Stephen A. Smith fan, but she practically got the man suspended from his job because she interpreted his words in a different way than he intended. Her whole shtick at this point is tiring, even though she's hiding behind the cause. In reality, the cause she is fighting for is great, it's her that is the problem.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 3, 2015 17:03:25 GMT -5
I get it, Floyd is undefeated, and is so worried about running into his Buster Douglas that he doesn't quite grasp the massive difference. He's Ali's rope-a-dope without the devastating offense, he's Mike Tyson's "he never loses" without the killer instinct Mike had in his prime. He knows how to market himself, as the villain that everyone wants to see lose, but who will play classic wrestling heel and do the Larry Zybysko stall for fie rounds while the judges award him each one for his "scientific defense". Pac is older, in boxing years he's ancient, and Floyd's whole life professionally is protecting the "undefeated" streak since that's literally all he has. He has no Ali-Frazier, no Ali-Foreman, no Leonard-Duran, just that zero in the loss column and half of his wins coming courtesy the judges at ringside. Just to compare, here are some all time greats (subjective, I know) and their KO percentage. Ali - 60.6. Foreman - 83.95 (I had no clue how high his record of laying people out was) Joe Louis - 75.36 Tommy Hearns - 71.64 Julio Cesar Chavez - 107-4 and a KO percentage of 74.78. Dude had twice as many knockouts as Mayweather has had fights. Even De la Hoya, who was accused of avoiding a punch quite a bit, knocked out 66.67 percent of his opponents. Point blank, I look at these guys, some of whom I grew up watching, and they were boxers, not just punchers. Yet somehow the new narrative out of Money's camp is that since he has that zero in the L column, it's somehow more than the wars The Champ had or Foreman coming back as an old father of five and still bringing some thunder with him, or Chavez pretty much staying eternal. Those are boxers, and I miss that. KO's are not what should show who's the best boxer, if anything, decision victories show that more than KOs. Because they show for an entire match, you were the superior to your opponent. And deep down, that is exactly what Floyd strives for. Embarrassing a fighter for 12 rounds because he knows they can't touch him. That shows the cockiness and greatness. I disagree; SOMETIMES it shows you're the better boxer. Sometimes it shows you couldn't finish a guy off. Look at the fight immediately preceding the main event. The skill level was so different between the two guys (blanking on their names sorry), the fight should've NEVER went the distance.
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Post by StuntGranny® on May 3, 2015 17:16:42 GMT -5
Exactly. Deadspin said it best this morning: Mayweather is a coward. I can't call any man a coward who steps into a combat sport. If people don't like they way he conducts his business than somebody needs to finally beat him to take away his leveraging power. Maybe he should fight someone who is in their prime. And make it fight where Mayweather doesn't control everything. Also, he hits women. The man is not only a coward, but a piece of shit as well.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 3, 2015 18:09:39 GMT -5
I can't call any man a coward who steps into a combat sport. If people don't like they way he conducts his business than somebody needs to finally beat him to take away his leveraging power. Maybe he should fight someone who is in their prime. And make it fight where Mayweather doesn't control everything. Also, he hits women. The man is not only a coward, but a piece of shit as well. What was his fight against Canelo then? Wasn't Canelo in his prime or he's now entering his prime. Floyd will always control whether people like it or not because he is the money headline. People pay to watch him fight and be undefeated or fight and get his head kicked in. I agree never put your hands on a woman, he is a coward for that. However, I do appreciate his boxing skills separating the man and the boxer.
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Post by rapidfire187 on May 3, 2015 18:14:54 GMT -5
Boxing f***ing sucks. I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound hateful about it but really, it's boring as hell. I can't believe there's still that much money involved in boxing. Mayweather made 100 million last night. That's nuts. I hope you guys feel good about spending that much on a boring fight. That wasn't an example of boxing last night. That was a 36 YEAR OLDvs. a 38-YEAR-OLDPac, while still very good, hasn't been in his prime for about four years. Mayweather's always been strictly defense. Calling that an example of what boxing in 2015 is like would be like calling that last Hogan-Sting match from 2011 an example of wrestling. It's so far removed from what sport has to offer and just captured the mainstream attention because Mayweather knows how to market and make people think being "undefeated" means absolutely anything when you don't have a real war on your legacy. If you want to rate boxing, watch that last NBC special from a few weeks ago. Fair point, I really shouldn't have categorized boxing like that. I've just personally never seen a fight that didn't bore me but I felt the same about MMA at one point too.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 3, 2015 18:16:10 GMT -5
HHH tweets Floyd support, Beadle says she gives up on WWE, lol. Am I the only one who thinks this is pathetic on Beadle's part? Most people know Mayweather is not a good person. The ones that didn't know probably know now due to all the media coverage. The ones who boycotted the fight to prevent putting money in his pocket did what they felt was right. That's perfectly logical. The HHH's of the world (and many, many others) who just watched the fight for the event, have a difference of opinion. That doesn't mean HHH supports domestic violence, and it's ridiculous for Beadle to even insinuate that anyone who publicly supports Mayweather should be criticized for it. Maybe someone should tell Beadle that Austin had domestic abuse problems and that she should have boycotted the WWE a long time ago since he's had appearances off and on. I'm not a Stephen A. Smith fan, but she practically got the man suspended from his job because she interpreted his words in a different way than he intended. Her whole shtick at this point is tiring, even though she's hiding behind the cause. In reality, the cause she is fighting for is great, it's her that is the problem. I agree I think people too many times confuse the issue at hand with something entirely diff. Everybody that was at the fight went to see a fight, you can't brush everyone with the same spoon because thats way you feel. She should continue fighting her cause but refrain from saying other people are horrible or whatever because they don't agree with her. There is much better ways for her to get the point across
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 3, 2015 20:18:33 GMT -5
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Post by Lupin the Third on May 3, 2015 20:52:22 GMT -5
Floyd v Brock next, please. WWE's biggest buyrate ever. "Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Paul Heyman. And my client, the Conqueror of Streaks, the Annihilator of Chosen Ones, will be the ONE in 48-1. My client will decimate the so called "Greatest Boxer of All Time." Who apparently, prefers to hug his opponents instead of punching them. My client will hug you, Mayweather. But then he will THROW YOU INTO SUPLEX CITY!!! My client will DESTROY YOUR LEGACY!!! My client....." "IS BRRRRRRRRRRRROCK LLLLLLLLLLLLESSNARRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!"
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on May 3, 2015 21:22:43 GMT -5
I don't mind Floyd's style all that much. Too many former boxers are in shit health because the term "defense" never entered their vocabulary.
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Post by Andy Martin on May 3, 2015 22:29:50 GMT -5
I know this is going to come off like sour grapes, but I simply can't help that. Floyd should have fought Manny five years ago. Instead, just like the Mosley fight, there's an underlying current of catching potentially dangerous opponents on the downhill slant of their careers. I'd have picked Mayweather back then too. On another note, Lomachenko looked really, really good last night.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2015 22:49:02 GMT -5
I don't mind Floyd's style all that much. Too many former boxers are in shit health because the term "defense" never entered their vocabulary. Hell, show me the former boxer that can even spell the word defense correctly. I hate "Money," but you can't not respect just how good of an awful, little turtle he is. It's not a gimmick either. They were showing his old fights earlier that day. Him debuting as a pro at 19 some 19 years ago fought with that exact same sensibility, only now he's sick with it. It's just.....a style. You can pointfight. You can duck and dip and dodge and clinch and jab and make them burn up all their go juice throwing useless punches. You can take it to a D. That's still boxing. It might not excite you, but it is a pretty brilliant thing to watch be played out. Pacquiao is a little Tazmanian devil. If he could've hurt him, he would've.
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Post by Clawley Race on May 3, 2015 22:54:27 GMT -5
I know this is going to come off like sour grapes, but I simply can't help that. Floyd should have fought Manny five years ago. Instead, just like the Mosley fight, there's an underlying current of catching potentially dangerous opponents on the downhill slant of their careers. I'd have picked Mayweather back then too. On another note, Lomachenko looked really, really good last night. Lomachenko looked great again! I also think it's a bit funny that people suggest that Floyd fighting Manny '5-7 years too late' or 'waiting until Manny was passed his prime' would have changed the outcome at all. Does Floyd, the older man, not get a day older every 24 hours like Pac-man and the rest of us?
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Post by fw91 on May 3, 2015 22:59:17 GMT -5
so was it really that boring?
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