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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 21:45:51 GMT -5
 Bye to you and your crappy finisher. I do wish the Bellas would leave too, I thought they weren't renewing their contracts, or was that BS? |
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Apr 3, 2015 21:46:18 GMT -5
I will take comfort in the fact she retired undefeated at Wrestlemania. Its Unfortunate she never had a proper singles match at Mania. Kind of surprising really. |
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Post by madness50 on Apr 3, 2015 21:47:20 GMT -5
One of the few divas I actually cared about. Will miss her and hope she will happy in whatever comes next in her life. Unfortunately, the Divas division is going to be Bella overload now.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 3, 2015 21:51:22 GMT -5
Nikki and Brie Kardashian can hold the title all they want. There will always be one true champion, and it's the Geek Goddess.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Apr 3, 2015 21:53:00 GMT -5
And thus ends a six year career, with almost three years on top. Without a single person put over the entire time.  Except Paige at Summerslam, and every single one of her title rivals during her heel reign beat her clean multiple times in tags and non-title matches only for her to sneak a victory via cheating or opportunism at the pay-per-view. She had a losing record on TV in 2013 and after Kaitlyn never won a single title match fairly as a heel. Not saying she couldn't have been used better to put more people over, but people act like she was reign of terror Triple H or something. She was just like any other midcard heel champion: completely incapable of winning a fair fight. And when you consider she was never actually pushed as difficult to beat, how much rub would someone really get from beating her? People tend to forget Triple H took plenty of Ls during the "Reign of Terror". It's not that you lose that matters, it's what comes from the loss. Triple H lost to Shelton Benjamin twice, and Shelton never rose above midcard for it. Not a single Diva that beat AJ gained anything from it for more than the time it took to celebrate in the ring. The only person that conceivably got over while AJ was on top was Paige, and her stock rose while AJ was on vacay, and the first thing she did when she got back was beat Paige and make that debut win look flukey as hell. So, yeah, she took some Ls, but she managed to do it in such a fashion that every single one of them might as well have been a fluke victory. But hey, I ain't mad. Hell, I'm ecstatic. All my future RAWs and Smackdowns will be free of skipping, head tilts, and commentary trying to make average look awesome. |
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Post by Vampiro138 on Apr 3, 2015 21:54:32 GMT -5
....and now i sit and wait and see how quickly she gets added to the c2e2 comic con here in chicago at the end of this month since Punk is doing a signing there that whole weekend...i imagine aj will soon be announced.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 21:54:35 GMT -5
Bye to you and your crappy finisher. I do wish the Bellas would leave too, I thought they weren't renewing their contracts, or was that BS? Say what you want about AJ, but I really liked her Black Widow octopus hold. But then again I also think Nikki Bella is slowly coming into her own as a half-ass decent wrestler... so what do I know? |
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Post by wisdomwizard on Apr 3, 2015 21:54:38 GMT -5
Except Paige at Summerslam, and every single one of her title rivals during her heel reign beat her clean multiple times in tags and non-title matches only for her to sneak a victory via cheating or opportunism at the pay-per-view. She had a losing record on TV in 2013 and after Kaitlyn never won a single title match fairly as a heel. Not saying she couldn't have been used better to put more people over, but people act like she was reign of terror Triple H or something. She was just like any other midcard heel champion: completely incapable of winning a fair fight. And when you consider she was never actually pushed as difficult to beat, how much rub would someone really get from beating her? People tend to forget Triple H took plenty of Ls during the "Reign of Terror". It's not that you lose that matters, it's what comes from the loss. Triple H lost to Shelton Benjamin twice, and Shelton never rose above midcard for it. Not a single Diva that beat AJ gained anything from it for more than the time it took to celebrate in the ring. The only person that conceivably got over while AJ was on top was Paige, and her stock rose while AJ was on vacay, and the first thing she did when she got back was beat Paige and make that debut win look flukey as hell. So, yeah, she took some Ls, but she managed to do it in such a fashion that every single one of them might as well have been a fluke victory. Not a single person's position was elevated during AJ Lee's run.
And that's her fault, how exactly?
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 3, 2015 21:57:57 GMT -5
People tend to forget Triple H took plenty of Ls during the "Reign of Terror". It's not that you lose that matters, it's what comes from the loss. Triple H lost to Shelton Benjamin twice, and Shelton never rose above midcard for it. Not a single Diva that beat AJ gained anything from it for more than the time it took to celebrate in the ring. The only person that conceivably got over while AJ was on top was Paige, and her stock rose while AJ was on vacay, and the first thing she did when she got back was beat Paige and make that debut win look flukey as hell. So, yeah, she took some Ls, but she managed to do it in such a fashion that every single one of them might as well have been a fluke victory. Not a single person's position was elevated during AJ Lee's run.
And that's her fault, how exactly?
Didn't you know? AJ booked WWE programming. She was so selfish, booking herself in two minute matches every week until the other Divas called out Stephanie publically and criticised her for marginalising women wrestlers while championing women's equality, which has already resulted in longer matches and greater exposure for them. Yeah, that's it. |
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Apr 3, 2015 22:01:58 GMT -5
The thought of AJ being the female Hogan made me audibly laugh.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 22:03:06 GMT -5
People tend to forget Triple H took plenty of Ls during the "Reign of Terror". It's not that you lose that matters, it's what comes from the loss. Triple H lost to Shelton Benjamin twice, and Shelton never rose above midcard for it. Not a single Diva that beat AJ gained anything from it for more than the time it took to celebrate in the ring. The only person that conceivably got over while AJ was on top was Paige, and her stock rose while AJ was on vacay, and the first thing she did when she got back was beat Paige and make that debut win look flukey as hell. So, yeah, she took some Ls, but she managed to do it in such a fashion that every single one of them might as well have been a fluke victory. Not a single person's position was elevated during AJ Lee's run.
And that's her fault, how exactly?
Did you not know AJ has just as much influence over her booking as the boss's son-in-law has over his. |
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Post by Indiana Miz on Apr 3, 2015 22:03:43 GMT -5
I wish she'd chosen to retire after the feud with Kaitlyn. I can't remember anything she's done since that entertained me, which is a shame since she used to be one of my favorite Divas.
Always good to see wrestlers retire by choice though.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Apr 3, 2015 22:06:12 GMT -5
People tend to forget Triple H took plenty of Ls during the "Reign of Terror". It's not that you lose that matters, it's what comes from the loss. Triple H lost to Shelton Benjamin twice, and Shelton never rose above midcard for it. Not a single Diva that beat AJ gained anything from it for more than the time it took to celebrate in the ring. The only person that conceivably got over while AJ was on top was Paige, and her stock rose while AJ was on vacay, and the first thing she did when she got back was beat Paige and make that debut win look flukey as hell. So, yeah, she took some Ls, but she managed to do it in such a fashion that every single one of them might as well have been a fluke victory. Not a single person's position was elevated during AJ Lee's run.
And that's her fault, how exactly?
She had enough push that she could basically go on vacation whenever she wasn't in the title hunt, and return and be put straight back into the title hunt. She buried the entire Total Divas cast live on RAW, and then proceeded to run through them all on PPV. When she was done with them, she beat her former muscle. When she was done with Tamina, she went on to WrestleMania and proceeded to beat the entire Divas Division in one match. She's clearly Vince's baby, and if she has that much sway that she can be put on a pedestal like that, was it such an impossible task for her to take someone by the ear and say "hey, maybe we can sorta kinda make just ONE of my losses actually mean something"? All I'm saying is, if we're gonna give Triple H shit for his booking, and give John Cena shit for his booking, and give Roman Reigns and the Bella Twins and God knows whoever else shit for their booking, maybe we shouldn't give AJ Lee such a free pass. |
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Post by gr1990 on Apr 3, 2015 22:06:50 GMT -5
Except Paige at Summerslam, and every single one of her title rivals during her heel reign beat her clean multiple times in tags and non-title matches only for her to sneak a victory via cheating or opportunism at the pay-per-view. She had a losing record on TV in 2013 and after Kaitlyn never won a single title match fairly as a heel. Not saying she couldn't have been used better to put more people over, but people act like she was reign of terror Triple H or something. She was just like any other midcard heel champion: completely incapable of winning a fair fight. And when you consider she was never actually pushed as difficult to beat, how much rub would someone really get from beating her? People tend to forget Triple H took plenty of Ls during the "Reign of Terror". It's not that you lose that matters, it's what comes from the loss. Triple H lost to Shelton Benjamin twice, and Shelton never rose above midcard for it. Not a single Diva that beat AJ gained anything from it for more than the time it took to celebrate in the ring. The only person that conceivably got over while AJ was on top was Paige, and her stock rose while AJ was on vacay, and the first thing she did when she got back was beat Paige and make that debut win look flukey as hell. So, yeah, she took some Ls, but she managed to do it in such a fashion that every single one of them might as well have been a fluke victory. But hey, I ain't mad. Hell, I'm ecstatic. All my future RAWs and Smackdowns will be free of skipping, head tilts, and commentary trying to make average look awesome. Like I say, she wasn't pushed as difficult to beat. If Naomi pinned AJ and won the title, people would've said 'huh, that was moderately unexpected. Ah, who cares, it's the Divas division, not like it matters' and move on. She was the face of the division cos she was in some main event storylines that didn't really at all involve her wrestling, her wrestling skill was never really put over all that much and most of her wrestling run was as an easy-to-beat heel. There was no ticket to superstardom to be gained from beating someone who loses quite a lot anyway. It just seems like you're looking for another stick to beat her with. |
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Apr 3, 2015 22:07:40 GMT -5
I'll miss AJ, but I'm not going to miss AJ threads, assuming we get fewer of them.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 3, 2015 22:12:21 GMT -5
That's because WWE did a shit job of building new female stars. That's their fault. Not hers.
She got cheered for the pipebomb, which indicates she may have had a point.
Oh no! Had she not done that, Tamina would have....done nothing. She was never going to be anything more than muscle.
Divas matches meaning something is what she tried to make happen recently. She spoke out. No one else did. That daft cow Nikki Bella immediately responded by supporting WWE's shitty booking of women.
And if she's Vince's baby, why did he obviously instruct that idiot JBL into mocking her openly on TV for actually having the nerve to care about wrestling, when she won the title and had a tattoo marking the occasion?
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Post by gr1990 on Apr 3, 2015 22:14:16 GMT -5
And that's her fault, how exactly?
She had enough push that she could basically go on vacation whenever she wasn't in the title hunt, and return and be put straight back into the title hunt. She buried the entire Total Divas cast live on RAW, and then proceeded to run through them all on PPV. When she was done with them, she beat her former muscle. When she was done with Tamina, she went on to WrestleMania and proceeded to beat the entire Divas Division in one match. She's clearly Vince's baby, and if she has that much sway that she can be put on a pedestal like that, was it such an impossible task for her to take someone by the ear and say "hey, maybe we can sorta kinda make just ONE of my losses actually mean something"? All I'm saying is, if we're gonna give Triple H shit for his booking, and give John Cena shit for his booking, and give Roman Reigns and the Bella Twins and God knows whoever else shit for their booking, maybe we shouldn't give AJ Lee such a free pass. This is the same woman that used her Slammy's speech and most of her out-of-character interviews to put over the girls in NXT, wrestled her last match in one of said girls' merch, and her 'burial' of the Total Divas included the time and network the show aired on and all the main storylines from it. The only reason that looked like any kind burial is WWE didn't give the TD girls chance to retort, which it has even been alleged is because they were offended and didn't want the story taken further. It was a commercial for the show. She was a heel saying she was better than everyone, like every heel ever. If you thought it was mean and egotistical, good, it was meant to be. Plus she spent the next few months sitting on commentary while JBL, the heel announcer, said 'haha, whatever, bitch, you're just jealous you're not on the show and you've got a tattoo of the date you won the belt like a loser mark.' The only Total Diva she ever routinely beat clean was Cameron. Cameron, I say. Reign of terror indeed. |
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Post by Savage Gambino on Apr 3, 2015 22:16:20 GMT -5
I'm done here. BIRDMAN TAKE THE WHEEL!!
*rubs hands together like Birdman to maintain serenity*
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 22:19:51 GMT -5
Well, that was out of nowhere.
So why did she get the win for her team at Mania?
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Post by Shy Guy on Apr 3, 2015 22:20:27 GMT -5
I will take comfort in the fact she retired undefeated at Wrestlemania. #newstreak |
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