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Post by Cela on May 4, 2015 12:11:44 GMT -5
Maybe the book plotlines lead to nothing. And yeah, the Sand Snakes have no case whatsoever, murdered someone who brought them information, and want to murder an innocent. They need to get hit with a comet soon. Killing Myrcella wouldn't make any sense simply because she is second in line to Tommen. If they got rid of Tommen it would basically put a Martell on the throne as king. Maybe that's where they are going. Nothing the Dorne plot does makes sense.
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Post by Cela on May 4, 2015 12:21:47 GMT -5
Also, anyone else getting an Agammemnon/Iphigenia vibe from Stannis and Shireen? Mel will need to sacrifice her to stop a blizzard or something.
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Post by The Last Hero on May 4, 2015 12:58:34 GMT -5
Killing Myrcella wouldn't make any sense simply because she is second in line to Tommen. If they got rid of Tommen it would basically put a Martell on the throne as king. Maybe that's where they are going. Nothing the Dorne plot does makes sense. The only thing that doesn't make sense is Jaime going to rescue Myrcella. It's too much of a risk.
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Post by Crimson on May 4, 2015 12:59:57 GMT -5
Nothing the Dorne plot does makes sense. it's been like two scenes... In one of those scenes, they killed a messenger who delivered them information that benefited them.
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Post by The Last Hero on May 4, 2015 13:01:09 GMT -5
it's been like two scenes... In one of those scenes, they killed a messenger who delivered them information that benefited them. I doubt out of the kindness of his heart.
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Post by Cela on May 4, 2015 14:53:19 GMT -5
In one of those scenes, they killed a messenger who delivered them information that benefited them. I doubt out of the kindness of his heart. In the other scene, a character basically wants to blow up Coney Island because her husband choked during a hot dog eating contest. "We must have revenge!" "But, he signed the waiver." "REVENGE!"
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Post by The Last Hero on May 4, 2015 15:04:45 GMT -5
I doubt out of the kindness of his heart. In the other scene, a character basically wants to blow up Coney Island because her husband choked during a hot dog eating contest. "We must have revenge!" "But, he signed the waiver." "REVENGE!" These people have wanted revenge for many years, their father tries and is killed...are they supposed to just give up now?
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Post by Cela on May 4, 2015 15:09:09 GMT -5
In the other scene, a character basically wants to blow up Coney Island because her husband choked during a hot dog eating contest. "We must have revenge!" "But, he signed the waiver." "REVENGE!" These people have wanted revenge for many years, their father tries and is killed...are they supposed to just give up now? Yes, he lost a duel, where he tried to kill another guy. They can keep the blood feud going over Elia, but they have no moral right to do anything in regards to Oberyn, which is their entire motivation. And that's stupid.
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Post by The Last Hero on May 4, 2015 15:15:14 GMT -5
Yes, he lost a duel, where he tried to kill another guy. They can keep the blood feud going over Elia, but they have no moral right to do anything in regards to Oberyn, which is their entire motivation. And that's stupid. It's not their entire motivation, they already had the motivation. Now they have even more motivation, no matter what he did that lead to his death. As it turns out, people don't always react nicely when their family members are killed. It's not stupid.
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Post by Cela on May 4, 2015 15:22:09 GMT -5
Yes, he lost a duel, where he tried to kill another guy. They can keep the blood feud going over Elia, but they have no moral right to do anything in regards to Oberyn, which is their entire motivation. And that's stupid. It's not their entire motivation, they already had the motivation. Now they have even more motivation, no matter what he did that lead to his death. As it turns out, people don't always react nicely when their family members are killed. It's not stupid. Elaria's entire argument to Quentyn(?, chair dude) was that he was doing nothing to avenge his brother's death, and there was a Lannister girl breathing their air, but mostly that his brother was going unavenged. The kids want revenge for Oberyn. And while they can be upset, they have no right to seek revenge when their dad entered willingly, nay, enthusiastically into a fight to the death. Oh well, prep the agree to disagree button. How bout that Mellisandre catchphrase!
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Post by The Last Hero on May 4, 2015 15:30:31 GMT -5
It's not their entire motivation, they already had the motivation. Now they have even more motivation, no matter what he did that lead to his death. As it turns out, people don't always react nicely when their family members are killed. It's not stupid. Elaria's entire argument to Quentyn(?, chair dude) was that he was doing nothing to avenge his brother's death, and there was a Lannister girl breathing their air, but mostly that his brother was going unavenged. The kids want revenge for Oberyn. And while they can be upset, they have no right to seek revenge when their dad entered willingly, nay, enthusiastically into a fight to the death. Oh well, prep the agree to disagree button. How bout that Mellisandre catchphrase! Hotheaded people acting irrationally. I respect your opinion though. Nevertheless, Doran is a WAAAAAAAAAAAY better character than Elaria and the Sandsnakes. They should focus more on him than anyone else in Dorne. As for Melisandre; poor lady just wants to give people shadow babies...whats wrong with that?!
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on May 4, 2015 16:55:20 GMT -5
At this point, they're needing to be really careful about what they're adding to the show, Dorne's the one big new thing they're adding, so they'll have to give it time to be explained and showcased, so we're stuck with the Sand Snakes.
It's such a shame George killed Oberyn, he's tried a couple of times to make new characters like him, but he can't be replaced.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on May 4, 2015 17:18:40 GMT -5
the whole kings landing / dorne things is brewing up very nicely i believe, the dornians don't take crap like one of their own getting their head caved in you know and the sand snakes have EVERY RIGHT to wroght revenge of the lannisters (arya anyone), after daddy oberyn getting melon'd! as for king tommen, already his power is dissolving thanks to dear old mommy and the high sparrow, gurning margaery ain't gonna like THAT, and her naughty brother might end up sharing a cell at the end of this since cersei is thinning out the small council! and why did you all think mellisandra asked jon whether or not he was a virgin? aww, she want's another wee babby ..... but FOR WHO??? and maybe dear danaerys's time as mereen pyramid-topper may be coming to an end, those fighting pits WILL be reopened!
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on May 4, 2015 18:41:02 GMT -5
I loved Keisha Castle-Hughes in Whale Rider, but damn, she's been going to the Megan Fox acting school.
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Post by Fundertaker on May 4, 2015 18:51:25 GMT -5
I'm also in favor of the motion to turn Tommen into King Butters
And is Jon Snow gonna be pursued all his life by hot redheads who want to bang him saying the same thing to him over and over?
Will Stannis of House Baratheon be able to have another "awwwwwwwwww" moment in this season?
Don't miss the next episode, same Jorah time, same Jorah channel!
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on May 4, 2015 20:01:14 GMT -5
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Post by walterharrow on May 5, 2015 11:41:04 GMT -5
Im still not sure how I feel about what happened to Barristan Selmy. I would probably be a lot less upset if Barristan had had several moments in the TV Series where he shows off his skills and looks like a badass, but this was the first time he used a sword in the show and gets killed. I understand how he was surrounded and still killed 15 or so Sons of the Harpy, but the fact that he gets killed during his first actual fight scene in the show is a bit annoying
Also, Arya Stark has not been in this season enough
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Post by wisdomwizard on May 5, 2015 13:16:30 GMT -5
Was Grey Worm killed too? I can take Barristan dying because he went out in a blaze of glory, but I liked Grey Worm a lot and can't help thinking he has a lot more he could do.
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Post by Crimson on May 5, 2015 14:30:22 GMT -5
Updated Game of Thrones Death Watch:Podrick Bronn Ellaria Sand I think Grey Worm's near death here has given him a reprieve unless they pull a "survived my fatal womb only to die of it later. And with Barristan kicking the bucket, I don't really see anyone else in Dany's Inner-Circle dying yet. I've already said it before, but Sansa is most definitely the safest character this season. She may be subjected to horrors, but the Boltons need her if they want control of the North. I'm pretty sure Brienne is going to try to launch some rescue mission, but if the writers really want to twist the knife of her being a failure, then I can see Podrick getting killed off. Was Grey Worm killed too? I can take Barristan dying because he went out in a blaze of glory, but I liked Grey Worm a lot and can't help thinking he has a lot more he could do. Grey Worm passed out at the end of the episode, and one of the season trailer showed Missandei kissing an unconscious Grey Worm. Considering he was only stabbed once (compared to Barristan, who was given the Caeser Treatment), I'd say he could pull through.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on May 5, 2015 14:57:21 GMT -5
Im still not sure how I feel about what happened to Barristan Selmy. I would probably be a lot less upset if Barristan had had several moments in the TV Series where he shows off his skills and looks like a badass, but this was the first time he used a sword in the show and gets killed. I understand how he was surrounded and still killed 15 or so Sons of the Harpy, but the fact that he gets killed during his first actual fight scene in the show is a bit annoying Also, Arya Stark has not been in this season enough The Unsullied went down way too easily as well. I don't know what Selmy was doing walking around in a hostile city without armor on, or why he decided to do anything other than run to Dany's side when trouble started brewing. It makes no sense. The choreography of that entire scene was very poor, like something out of Xena or Hercules.
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