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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 2:19:01 GMT -5
I'mma have to start calling Stannis "The Wall", cause that dude is as cold as ice. I think Shireen's death was the first time I've felt uncomfortable with this show. Another confirmation of my deep love for Davos though. Long live the onion.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Jun 8, 2015 3:08:36 GMT -5
Meryn Trant is enough of an asshole. There was really no need for Weiss and Benioff to make him a pedophile on top of it. I think it's how Arya is going to get to him. "I want the fish girl." and all.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Jun 8, 2015 4:19:23 GMT -5
I think the show makers want to get all the kids at pre puberty age off the show. Cause 'Growth Spurts Are Coming' and a sudden growth spurt would look out of place on a show as continues as Game Of Thrones. It was the reason Walt was written out of Lost. Tell ya Jon Snow's little friend better be nervous Oh and f*** STANNIS!
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jun 8, 2015 4:36:30 GMT -5
I think the show makers want to get all the kids at pre puberty age off the show. Cause 'Growth Spurts Are Coming' and a sudden growth spurt would look out of place on a show as continues as Game Of Thrones. It was the reason Walt was written out of Lost. Tell ya Jon Snow's little friend better be nervous Oh and f*** STANNIS! I don't know about that. They seem to have had no issue letting Bran's actor take a year off to finish his growth spurt. Wouldn't shock me if he grew a Jericho beard circa 03 in the meantime.
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Post by CM Parish on Jun 8, 2015 7:57:36 GMT -5
Is Bran even going to be in this season?
Also, yeah Stannis is a prick for killing his daughter... But it seemed to have worked. Mel wasn't lying.
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Post by chronocross on Jun 8, 2015 8:01:45 GMT -5
Is Bran even going to be in this season? Also, yeah Stannis is a prick for killing his daughter... But it seemed to have worked. Mel wasn't lying. It was said before Season 5, that Bran would not be in this season. The snow appears to have stopped by the looks of the preview.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jun 8, 2015 8:06:24 GMT -5
Hey, you know how I said earlier that I started to see why people liked Stannis so much?... Poof! It's gone. It's pretty bad writing too as he suddenly does a 180 with no justification. And can Melisandre get killed already? She's been a shit character from the start and now she's just ruining other characters. Now, I think people's shock over the sacrifice of Shareen made everyone forget about the fight at the arena and the many, many problems with it and I'd like to talk about it for a moment. Did anyone else think that Jorah's roll at the end looked both unnecessary and hilariously goofy? Seriously, he could have achieved the same result by kneeling down and thrusting his sword forward, with the added bonus of not leaving himself exposed for no reason. And by the way, is it just me or did that fight have a lot of awkward editing? The Son of the Harpy thing just... doesn't work for me. First off, I always find the whole "shoot at someone just behind the good guy making it look like a betrayal only for the next shot to reveal the truth" thing to be rather silly as it's blatantly somthing that's done just to make a character look "cool" despite it making no sense whatsoever. But here, it's especially bad. Usually, it's done with guns and you might argue that they didn't want to risk giving the villain time to kill the victim (although I'm not sure saying "duck!" would take that much time but here, it's with a spear! If Jorah had enough time to spot the guy, take the spear, throw it and have it reach its target, he had enough time to say "BEHIND YOU!" and have Daario kill him, or at least told them to move out of the way. And it's a good thing Jorah aimed with surgical accuracy or else that could have ended tragically, huh? It's also a good thing he threw it with just the right amount of force to actually hit him. Just imagine if Jorah's spear pitifully crashed against the wall. Now they all think Jorah tried to kill Daenerys AND it creates a nice distraction for the Son of the Harpy to kill her. And speaking of the Son of the Harpy himself, how did he get there without anyone noticing? Seriously, none of the guards or anyone in the crowd noticed the big guy in a big golden mask making his way towards the queen's balcony? And they seriously didn't notice the dozens of other ones sitting in the crowd either?! And why do the Sons of the Harpy decide to stop attacking and go one or two at a time when they actually have a perfect chance to finish the job?! And why is Daenerys slowly walking towards the dragon when blades and spears are flying everywhere?! Why is none of her entourage protecting her as she does?! Why aren't the Sons of the Harpy taking a shot at her when the only way she could be more exposed would be if Emilia Clarke still had a nudity clause in her contract?! Man, I actually found episode decent overall (again, not impressed with Stannis killing his daughter but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and believe it has the potential of going somewhere) but that ending was a mess. At least we got to see Tyrion be badass again. Also, surprisingly, it wasn't that big of a twist/reveal for an episode 9 of that show. Granted, it would have been hard to top last week's episode, but it's weird that this is how they ended it (not to mention Stannis sacrificing his daughter was actually far more shocking and would have made for a better final scene) Stannis kind of needed to burn his daughter for the sake of the story. If he didn't, who was the big evil supposed to be? The... the ice zombie king who killed hundreds of people last week and then made them rise again to add them to his army of hundreds of thousands of ice zombies? Isn't that big enough for you? Meryn Trant is enough of an asshole. There was really no need for Weiss and Benioff to make him a pedophile on top of it. Game of Thrones isn't very good at subtlety.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jun 8, 2015 8:06:27 GMT -5
I don't know I'm quite buying the Selyse face turn here. She was as much a zealot as Stannis (even roasting her brother alive gleefully), and showed zero affection for Shireen.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Jun 8, 2015 8:19:17 GMT -5
Kane and Big Show have a new friend:
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Post by Sparvid on Jun 8, 2015 8:24:47 GMT -5
Davos: Where is princess Shireen? Stannis: We sent her to visit my mom & dad. Davos: Your mom and dad are dead. Stannis: We thought she should see their final resting place. Stannis: We took her to a farm upstate. Davos: "We are in the North." Stannis: "Beyond the Wall." "It's a small place. You've never heard of it."
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jun 8, 2015 8:33:44 GMT -5
Davos: "Your Grace, who is this Princess Barbecue everyone keeps mentioning?"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 8:36:12 GMT -5
Stannis kind of needed to burn his daughter for the sake of the story. If he didn't, who was the big evil supposed to be? The... the ice zombie king who killed hundreds of people last week and then made them rise again to add them to his army of hundreds of thousands of ice zombies? Isn't that big enough for you? Not really. Revenants and similar creatures as main villains just don't cut it for me. There's not enough personality. Sure, they're evil, but the evil they inflict is like a giant disease. Deadly but lacking in personality or motive. Stannis is someone who we thought was a good guy who, through a combination of religious belief and pure avarice, had his daughter ritually sacrificed for a small sliver of a chance at being King of Westeros. That's a different kind of evil altogether, and one that makes for a much more interesting villain.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 8, 2015 9:08:21 GMT -5
The Night King is clearly the hero of this story. Great with children, raises the dead.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jun 8, 2015 9:14:28 GMT -5
The... the ice zombie king who killed hundreds of people last week and then made them rise again to add them to his army of hundreds of thousands of ice zombies? Isn't that big enough for you? Not really. Revenants and similar creatures as main villains just don't cut it for me. There's not enough personality. Sure, they're evil, but the evil they inflict is like a giant disease. Deadly but lacking in personality or motive. Stannis is someone who we thought was a good guy who, through a combination of religious belief and pure avarice, had his daughter ritually sacrificed for a small sliver of a chance at being King of Westeros. That's a different kind of evil altogether, and one that makes for a much more interesting villain. Brienne's probably going to kill Show Stannis either next episode or very early next season. They can't have these two characters basically both at Winterfell and not pull the trigger. So his reign as top heel won't last that long.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 8, 2015 9:19:32 GMT -5
Tyrion: So...uh....what do we do now guys?
I hope Dany kept the receipt for those Unsullied she bought. They are like Imperial Stormtroopers, but for good guys.
I also hope that Dr. Bashir is given a bit more to do next season. Jamie and Bronn's Adventure in Dorne has seemed extraordinarily pointless so far.
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Post by Hakumental on Jun 8, 2015 9:53:13 GMT -5
To whoever supplies Ramsay's plot armor: I'd like to place an order.
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Post by The Last Hero on Jun 8, 2015 9:57:26 GMT -5
I'm wondering if we're going to see Littlefinger in the last episode.
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Post by darbus alan on Jun 8, 2015 10:09:07 GMT -5
To whoever supplies Ramsay's plot armor: I'd like to place an order. Sylvanas Windrunner: "And I thought my plot armor was amazing."
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 8, 2015 10:12:53 GMT -5
To whoever supplies Ramsay's plot armor: I'd like to place an order. It is surprisingly effective considering he only wears the pants.
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Post by kieran on Jun 8, 2015 10:51:53 GMT -5
While Stannis's actions were deplorable no doubt, they completly fit in with where he is as a person. After Ramsays attack on his camp he had NO OTHER OPTION, it was either retreat and accept defeat, or turn to a tactic (magic) that has been shown to work before.
Stannis's speech to his daughter perfectly explained why he did what he did, his motivations and the struggle he was going through was quite clear.
Of course daughter killing aint cool but theres NO ONE on this show who hasnt got a black mark against his or hers name, no one is innocent, even Jon Snow and Ned Stark executed people for questionable reasons. The reasons given were desertion but I dont think its as clear cut as that, Ned's victim ran from a White Walker, maybe Ned shouldve believed him and gathered info on the Whites rather than "Off with his head!" and Jon's victim, while not the most honorable man was an old man looking for shelter, do they really deserve death?
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