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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Sept 1, 2015 21:05:52 GMT -5
I'm also glad that anything she does in the public eye will also feature the tag, "Schreiber was fired by the WWE for posting images of swastikas."
That'll look good on the resume.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 21:18:48 GMT -5
It does amaze me that so many young people (and, I'm sure, older people in some cases) seem to disregard the fact that they are told over and over and over that everything you put out there online and social media stays forever -- and can come back to haunt you. Yet many of them do it anyway -- whether it's dumb stuff or racist stuff or nude/seminude pix, whatever. How smart do you have to be to just not do that? I remember looking at a job applicant's Facebook page, he was just out of college and literally EVERY photo was of him drunk and doing stupid stuff. Not one or two, but dozens upon dozens. This never got near the point of "background check" ... it was a pretty fair guess that if we hired him he would probably be drunk a good bit of the time so he didn't get so much as a callback. That's easy to say when you're growing up with the internet I Mean I'm 36 years old, so it's np. Think about it if you're like 19. |
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Post by trollrogue on Sept 1, 2015 21:28:49 GMT -5
Wasn't there a Seinfeld episode where he had this hot girl he was dating that was really racist and he was trying to weigh the pros and cons of hotness vs racism. I just remember him being out with her and she completes a thought with "Not like those worthless blacks and jews" and he starts to make a face and the show ends =P From page 11 of this very thread: More stuff is leaking. Here's Seth and Zahra having small talk at a wedding. Covered and covered!  |
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Post by saintpat on Sept 1, 2015 21:46:18 GMT -5
It does amaze me that so many young people (and, I'm sure, older people in some cases) seem to disregard the fact that they are told over and over and over that everything you put out there online and social media stays forever -- and can come back to haunt you. Yet many of them do it anyway -- whether it's dumb stuff or racist stuff or nude/seminude pix, whatever. How smart do you have to be to just not do that? I remember looking at a job applicant's Facebook page, he was just out of college and literally EVERY photo was of him drunk and doing stupid stuff. Not one or two, but dozens upon dozens. This never got near the point of "background check" ... it was a pretty fair guess that if we hired him he would probably be drunk a good bit of the time so he didn't get so much as a callback. That's easy to say when you're growing up with the internet I Mean I'm 36 years old, so it's np. Think about it if you're like 19. To me, they are the ones who should have the basic understanding that everything stays out there forever ... they see what's still out there, they know which celebrities have nude pix that are still around, they have to be aware of hundreds of high-profile, TMZ reports about this kind of thing haunting someone. It's not a big leap, even for a 19-year-old, to say, "Hmmm, maybe I should be careful." And, as I noted, it's not like they aren't told hundreds of times during their youth to be careful what they post. |
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Post by percymania on Sept 1, 2015 22:19:45 GMT -5
All the good puns were already long gone. Don't judge me  You know the old saying, "if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the oven" Would Jew stop? |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 1, 2015 22:48:14 GMT -5
It does amaze me that so many young people (and, I'm sure, older people in some cases) seem to disregard the fact that they are told over and over and over that everything you put out there online and social media stays forever -- and can come back to haunt you. Yet many of them do it anyway -- whether it's dumb stuff or racist stuff or nude/seminude pix, whatever. How smart do you have to be to just not do that? I remember looking at a job applicant's Facebook page, he was just out of college and literally EVERY photo was of him drunk and doing stupid stuff. Not one or two, but dozens upon dozens. This never got near the point of "background check" ... it was a pretty fair guess that if we hired him he would probably be drunk a good bit of the time so he didn't get so much as a callback. And everybody I know IRL tells me that I'm full of shit when I say that when you go for a job, companies will demand to get to look over your social media. That is one of (but not the only) the reasons Facebook has its "real name policy" (Even though they only enforce it if somebody reports you as not using your real name). That's easy to say when you're growing up with the internet I Mean I'm 36 years old, so it's np. Think about it if you're like 19. Of course, you want to be right, but it doesn't work that way now. People are demanding ever more sensitivity and deference, and the range of the things you can say will always shrink further and further. And yes, things you said in 1998 WILL be held to 2015, 2016, 2017, 2030 standards, like it or not. It's not even a question of whether it's "fair" to someone who said something insensitive in a public forum or not. Because it's just how it's going to be. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 2, 2015 1:12:47 GMT -5
It does amaze me that so many young people (and, I'm sure, older people in some cases) seem to disregard the fact that they are told over and over and over that everything you put out there online and social media stays forever -- and can come back to haunt you. Yet many of them do it anyway -- whether it's dumb stuff or racist stuff or nude/seminude pix, whatever. How smart do you have to be to just not do that? I remember looking at a job applicant's Facebook page, he was just out of college and literally EVERY photo was of him drunk and doing stupid stuff. Not one or two, but dozens upon dozens. This never got near the point of "background check" ... it was a pretty fair guess that if we hired him he would probably be drunk a good bit of the time so he didn't get so much as a callback. See that case, I'm less happy about. Unless someone has things about them being drunk at work, or in class, or some time when they shouldn't be, a DUI they didn't get caught for, then there's no indication he does anything but get drunk in their spare time. THAT is a level of scrutiny so many will fall down on, because you go to a party, there will be photos you'll post because it was an awesome party you want to show to friends. I have probably thousands of stupid drunk photos, but I'm first one in, work hard and I'm pretty damn good at my job. I just go crazy on the weekends. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 1:31:15 GMT -5
One of these days companies will be banned from checking out social media accounts. Viewing someone's Facebook page tells you their age, race and in some cases sexual orientation, religion and political views. I'm surprised there hasn't been some anti discrimination lawsuit yet by someone whose application was rejected due to social media use.
Of course any ban like that would be impossible to enforce.
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Post by saintpat on Sept 2, 2015 1:36:37 GMT -5
It does amaze me that so many young people (and, I'm sure, older people in some cases) seem to disregard the fact that they are told over and over and over that everything you put out there online and social media stays forever -- and can come back to haunt you. Yet many of them do it anyway -- whether it's dumb stuff or racist stuff or nude/seminude pix, whatever. How smart do you have to be to just not do that? I remember looking at a job applicant's Facebook page, he was just out of college and literally EVERY photo was of him drunk and doing stupid stuff. Not one or two, but dozens upon dozens. This never got near the point of "background check" ... it was a pretty fair guess that if we hired him he would probably be drunk a good bit of the time so he didn't get so much as a callback. See that case, I'm less happy about. Unless someone has things about them being drunk at work, or in class, or some time when they shouldn't be, a DUI they didn't get caught for, then there's no indication he does anything but get drunk in their spare time. THAT is a level of scrutiny so many will fall down on, because you go to a party, there will be photos you'll post because it was an awesome party you want to show to friends. I have probably thousands of stupid drunk photos, but I'm first one in, work hard and I'm pretty damn good at my job. I just go crazy on the weekends. Good for you. The applicant's Facebook page told me (and others at our company) that he doesn't have very good judgment if he publicizes such things. I should note that the job he was applying for would put him in the public eye and subject to scrutiny as he would be very recognizable in the community -- also that he would be working around high school students (who have parents who might expect a bit of responsibility from someone in this job). If he can't make decent judgments on things like what to put in public on his social media, our company cannot trust him to make good judgments in his professional life. |
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Sept 2, 2015 2:42:40 GMT -5
One of these days companies will be banned from checking out social media accounts. Viewing someone's Facebook page tells you their age, race and in some cases sexual orientation, religion and political views. I'm surprised there hasn't been some anti discrimination lawsuit yet by someone whose application was rejected due to social media use. Of course any ban like that would be impossible to enforce. Ahah, no they won't. "You didn't hire me! You discriminated against me because I'm XYZ!" "No, we didn't hire you because there's 200 pictures of you drinking, clearly blitzed out of your skull. We can't have someone representing our company in such a manner." "Oh." |
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Post by Session Moth is over on Sept 2, 2015 2:47:24 GMT -5
One of these days companies will be banned from checking out social media accounts. Viewing someone's Facebook page tells you their age, race and in some cases sexual orientation, religion and political views. I'm surprised there hasn't been some anti discrimination lawsuit yet by someone whose application was rejected due to social media use. Of course any ban like that would be impossible to enforce. Why should there be? If the pages are public the company has every right to look at the page. If we offer a job we look at facebook pages. If I'm looking at your page and I see a load of pics of you out drinking it wont put me off hiring you. However if every single one of your pics are of nothing but you falling all over the place and causing trouble then I might have second thoughts. I'm also weary of people putting up long posts abusing other people and any long posts that are of people looking for attention or are overly dramatic. I'm 30, I understand the whole going out drinking and having pictures put up on your facebook account. There is nothing wrong with that. But I will and have looked at Facebook profiles and if I see anything like what I mentoned above, or anything racist, abusive or you just don't come accross very bright then we wont hire you. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 2:50:56 GMT -5
Easy, just don't have a Facebook like me.
Well, I had one, but it was mostly just Simpsons pictures and emo stuff. And it doesn't matter how inebriated I am, I'm not stupid enough to take photos of myself in that state.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 2, 2015 3:00:30 GMT -5
Easy, just don't have a Facebook like me. Well, I had one, but it was mostly just Simpsons pictures and emo stuff. And it doesn't matter how inebriated I am, I'm not stupid enough to take photos of myself in that state. Or set the entire thing to private. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 3:11:45 GMT -5
Easy, just don't have a Facebook like me. Well, I had one, but it was mostly just Simpsons pictures and emo stuff. And it doesn't matter how inebriated I am, I'm not stupid enough to take photos of myself in that state. Or set the entire thing to private. True. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 2, 2015 4:07:57 GMT -5
One of these days companies will be banned from checking out social media accounts. Viewing someone's Facebook page tells you their age, race and in some cases sexual orientation, religion and political views. I'm surprised there hasn't been some anti discrimination lawsuit yet by someone whose application was rejected due to social media use. Of course any ban like that would be impossible to enforce. Ahah, no they won't. "You didn't hire me! You discriminated against me because I'm XYZ!" "No, we didn't hire you because there's 200 pictures of you drinking, clearly blitzed out of your skull. We can't have someone representing our company in such a manner." "Oh." Why not? I wasn't engaged in any illegal activity, no one was hurt or discriminated against. Unless there are specific "morality" or behaviour modifying clauses, what does my non company time with my friends have to do with my ability to perform a job? |
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Post by Session Moth is over on Sept 2, 2015 4:52:39 GMT -5
Ahah, no they won't. "You didn't hire me! You discriminated against me because I'm XYZ!" "No, we didn't hire you because there's 200 pictures of you drinking, clearly blitzed out of your skull. We can't have someone representing our company in such a manner." "Oh." Why not? I wasn't engaged in any illegal activity, no one was hurt or discriminated against. Unless there are specific "morality" or behaviour modifying clauses, what does my non company time with my friends have to do with my ability to perform a job? Where do you draw the line? Again I have no problem with people putting pictures up of nights out. But if I check someones Facebook page and they come accross as overly dramatic and/or post stuff from when they were in their old job like "agh off to work, hate going in can't stand working there" and "man so hungover again for work, same every Monday morning, going to do as little as I can lol" shouldn't I have the right to think to myself that I don't want to employ this person? If people put this sort of stuff on a public website or social network they need to be carfull. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 2, 2015 5:12:03 GMT -5
Why not? I wasn't engaged in any illegal activity, no one was hurt or discriminated against. Unless there are specific "morality" or behaviour modifying clauses, what does my non company time with my friends have to do with my ability to perform a job? Where do you draw the line? Again I have no problem with people putting pictures up of nights out. But if I check someones Facebook page and they come accross as overly dramatic and/or post stuff from when they were in their old job like "agh off to work, hate going in can't stand working there" and "man so hungover again for work, same every Monday morning, going to do as little as I can lol" shouldn't I have the right to think to myself that I don't want to employ this person? If people put this sort of stuff on a public website or social network they need to be carfull. You draw it there, where clearly things are affecting their work. Personally, I wouldn't even mind if they bitched about their old job, as long as it wasn't constant. Everyone has the odd one off day they complain about work, penalising someone for something everyone does seems incredibly harsh to me. But I can see people drawing their line there, I'd just disagree. As long as what you're doing isn't illegal, harmful, or hurting your ability to work. Those are my lines. Facebook's public, I guess, but I have my settings as private so only my friends can see it, because it's not a business page, it's a page for me and my friends to talk crap. |
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Post by Session Moth is over on Sept 2, 2015 5:23:24 GMT -5
Sadly I find people either don't bitch about their job at all or do it on a regular basis on Facebook. Again I wouldn't and haven't held people drinking against members of staff. A few of our younger staff are pretty wild but as long as they come in on time and can work and are not smelling of drink then fine. I have often came into work on no more than a couple of hours sleep after a night out myself. I basically draw the line at if I feel someone will be a liabilty or not in the workplace. If their Facebook page has anything on it that makes me think they will be hard to work with then I avoid them. It's very hard to get someone out of a job once they start so it's important to try and pick who is best.
But pictures of nights out drinking in and of themselves are fine.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 2, 2015 6:54:49 GMT -5
Sadly I find people either don't bitch about their job at all or do it on a regular basis on Facebook. Again I wouldn't and haven't held people drinking against members of staff. A few of our younger staff are pretty wild but as long as they come in on time and can work and are not smelling of drink then fine. I have often came into work on no more than a couple of hours sleep after a night out myself. I basically draw the line at if I feel someone will be a liabilty or not in the workplace. If their Facebook page has anything on it that makes me think they will be hard to work with then I avoid them. It's very hard to get someone out of a job once they start so it's important to try and pick who is best. But pictures of nights out drinking in and of themselves are fine. Then yeah, sounds good, if someone's being an ass all the time about stuff and doesn't want to be there, then they shouldn't be. I just see a lot of arguments as "oh you went out and there are photos of drinking, we can't have that" which seems draconian, and in many cases hypocritical. You sound like a cool boss  |
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Post by Session Moth is over on Sept 2, 2015 7:04:47 GMT -5
Sadly I find people either don't bitch about their job at all or do it on a regular basis on Facebook. Again I wouldn't and haven't held people drinking against members of staff. A few of our younger staff are pretty wild but as long as they come in on time and can work and are not smelling of drink then fine. I have often came into work on no more than a couple of hours sleep after a night out myself. I basically draw the line at if I feel someone will be a liabilty or not in the workplace. If their Facebook page has anything on it that makes me think they will be hard to work with then I avoid them. It's very hard to get someone out of a job once they start so it's important to try and pick who is best. But pictures of nights out drinking in and of themselves are fine. Then yeah, sounds good, if someone's being an ass all the time about stuff and doesn't want to be there, then they shouldn't be. I just see a lot of arguments as "oh you went out and there are photos of drinking, we can't have that" which seems draconian, and in many cases hypocritical. You sound like a cool boss Thanks it's a family business so luckily I have lots of help. :-) |
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