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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Sept 18, 2015 0:37:46 GMT -5
Cena Summerslam 2005 Orton - 1st WHC reign Sheamus - face turn Ryback - Punk's shoot Reigns - Superstar of the Year Batista - never-ending SD rematches Big Show - ECW champion Del Rio - Summer of Punk Miz - immediately/ Diva's Search HHH - reign of terror Jericho - running mouth on his Podcasts Paige - Tough Enough? Ryder - after looking like a joke Kane - after Snitsky I agree with every single one of these. this would be my list too.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Sept 18, 2015 1:27:27 GMT -5
With Jericho it seemed to be when he became rather nauseating and sanctimonious in his podcasts. His 3rd book struck a lot of the same chords as Foley's third book. That turned a lot of "smarks" off.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Sept 18, 2015 1:40:49 GMT -5
Anybody that dislikes ECW Big Show isn't invited to my birthday party. And my parties are dope.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 3:22:38 GMT -5
I'm so glad that people feel the same as Jericho as I do, same with him turning away from him. His podcast was alright in the beginning but sometime, I'm not sure when, things changed. I don't even listen to his podcasts anymore because of this. Hell, Austin and sometimes JR are the only ones I listen to.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Sept 18, 2015 4:28:04 GMT -5
Yeah. Isn't it generally accepted that his ECW run was his best work? Well after this at least: WELLLLL WELL IT'S THE BIG SMOKE! Cena: JBL is poopy Orton - When he came out to This Fire Burns and tarnished the power and the glory of CM Punk Sheamus - When he officially had one too many limes Ryback - When he passed his harsh training and officially mastered the feed me more. Reigns - When he had peas before! Batista - Smarks wanted to cheer for him, but he walks alone. Big Show - Heel turn #433 Del Rio - Disapproving of the power and the glory of CM Punk Miz - "YOU'RE MOM OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" HHH - There was a time Smarks liked HHH? Jericho - Never, after all he invented wrestling. Paige - When she beat the angel goddess AJ Lee Ryder - Embrace The Hate feud with Cena and Kane Kane - Embrace The Hate feud with Cena and Ryder All kidding of course.
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Post by rippo on Sept 18, 2015 5:19:47 GMT -5
Cena - When he officially dropped the rapper gimmick and beat Angle/Jericho/Christian clean and started calling Jericho "Y2Cheap" and "Cheap sauce"
Orton - Around 2009 after the HHH feud. He started becoming monotone in his promos and slow in the ring. There's just nothing to him anymore.
Sheamus - I don't think they ever liked him. But the height of his hatred was during the 18 seconds thing and the "Snackdown Cena" push
Ryback - At the beginning everyone hated him, then when they failed his push, everyone realised how good he was.
Reigns - When they started acting like he was the coolest thing since sliced bread. So post Shield-WM31 I'd say. Oh, and don't forget that Beanstalk promo.
Batista - When he got drafted to Smackdown. Then he turned heel and everyone loved it.
Big Show - 2009ish. When it became obvious he was just "there". That was 6 years ago and he's still flapping between heel and face and getting the odd title feud. Ugh.
Del Rio - After he lost to Edge at WM27. He became one dimensional, "talk about destiny, beat a jobber, keep the arm bar locked in, repeat"
Miz - When he main evented WM.... Seriously, how did that happen?
HHH - Reign of Terror, 2008 Smackdown and 2009 Raw.
Jericho - When he started coming back too much, to the point where it's now like a running joke. Also he started talking like an ass on Twitter.
Paige - When she turned back face and started becoming super obnoxious saying THIS IS MY HAWSE. Seriously.
Ryder - When his push failed and he started becoming bitter about it.
Kane - Around 2007-2009 when he failed to change up his look or do anything new. Now mostly everyone is just tired of him.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 18, 2015 5:28:04 GMT -5
The exact moment they debuted.
The wrestling fanbase is not a hive mind, even when a wrestler is getting plaudits nearly across the board there will always be a vocal section of the fanbase that claims they're not that good, that they're overhyped by smarks, have no drawing power and will be found out soon.
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Post by Hurbster on Sept 18, 2015 5:48:23 GMT -5
I don't really mind what smarks think.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Sept 18, 2015 6:11:18 GMT -5
Every wrestler becomes the current whipping boy somepoint on these forums.
At the moment it seems to be the whipping girl with Niki Bella.
I remember when Drew McIntyre was the most hated person on here, almost half the threads were anti McIntyre, it got to the point that the mods stuck it all in 1 thread..
With that said not everybody here thinks alike, no matter how awesome a certain wrestler is in the ring or how much of an awesome promo they can cut, there will always be someone out there who finds them "Ov-ver-rate-ted".
And vice versa, a hated wrestler will still have their fans who will defend them no matter what.
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Sept 18, 2015 6:15:48 GMT -5
The correct answer is: "The month after they began to treat them as wrestling semi-gods"
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Sept 18, 2015 6:29:55 GMT -5
I've been around the block a few times, so I could probably get something for all of them... Cena: 2005 feud with Christian Orton: 2011 feud with Christian Sheamus: See Orton Ryback: While nowhere near as sustained as the previous people, I'd guess the 2012 feud with Punk Reigns: TLC 2014 comeback promo Batista: Two separate answers for his two different runs... Some time in 2007-2008 where he was constantly getting title shots and winning the 2014 Rumble Big Show: Probably his feud with The Straight-Edge Society Del Rio: The third or fourth "DESTINY" promo Miz: Late 2011 serious "iceman" push HHH: WrestleMania XIX, nuff said Jericho: Not sure... Probably when he was sticking up for Reigns on Twitter or when he started getting all those tattoos Paige: Something on Tough Enough, probably Ryder: Bitching on Twitter after his push died, peaking with the "PUSH ME" trunks Kane: The week after the debut of Corporate Kane And for bonus points... Ziggler: The promo where he announced him and Lana as being an item, while Rusev couldn't do anything because of his foot injury What do I win? I'd say Jericho was more when he defended DeMott being a piece of shit. Oh, and for me, Big Show only went down hill when he became the fail safe for everything. Big Johnny feuding with Cena? BIG SHOW! D-Bry vs Authority? BIG SHOW! IC title scene looking a bit stale? BIG SHOW! Seriously, we need someone to photoshop that picture of someone looking at two buttons Saying "be a dick" & "Don't be a dick", then showing them sweating making the person Vince & the buttons say "Big Show" & "No Big Show"
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Post by Citizen Snips on Sept 18, 2015 6:44:19 GMT -5
I'd say Triple H's turn to smark-hate happened in mid 2000. His rise to the title in 1999 was generally looked upon well, and he was just on fire in the first half of 2000, having great feuds with Cactus Jack and The Rock, a good mini-fued with Jericho and even a cult classic match with TAKA.
I think the first sour grapes started when the logical end to the Kurt Angle feud (Steph turns on Triple H to bang Kurt, Triple H turns face) didn't happen. That was the first real sign of "They're just doing what Triple H wants, not what makes sense" amongst Interweb fans.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 18, 2015 6:53:30 GMT -5
I think the first sour grapes started when the logical end to the Kurt Angle feud (Steph turns on Triple H to bang Kurt, Triple H turns face) didn't happen. That was the first real sign of "They're just doing what Triple H wants, not what makes sense" amongst Interweb fans. That was around the time where Stephanie actually took over the lead Creative position from Chris Kreski (the guy who had taken over the position after Russo left a year earlier), I believe... So that might have been a factor.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Sept 18, 2015 10:10:08 GMT -5
I think people are mixing up "everybody hates that guy" with "two or three people hate that guy and won't shut up about it."
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Post by Welfare Willis on Sept 18, 2015 10:15:29 GMT -5
Was Gargmel ever a wrestler? Because I'm trying to remember when the Smurfs turned on him.
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Post by fw91 on Sept 18, 2015 11:49:46 GMT -5
Reigns: When they went forward with his push and won the royal rumble in favor of Daniel Bryan
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Post by Dean-o on Sept 18, 2015 17:20:38 GMT -5
Cena Summerslam 2005 Orton - 1st WHC reign Sheamus - face turn Ryback - Punk's shoot Reigns - Superstar of the Year Batista - never-ending SD rematches Big Show - ECW champion Del Rio - Summer of Punk Miz - immediately/ Diva's Search HHH - reign of terror Jericho - running mouth on his Podcasts Paige - Tough Enough? Ryder - after looking like a joke Kane - after Snitsky ECW Big Show was legit. I attended an awesome ECW house show in White Plains, NY that had Big Show vs Sabu for the title in a Tables match. The heat he got was NUCLEAR. Multiple time I had to duck from the things being thrown at him.
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Post by Neo: "The One" who CLAPS on Sept 18, 2015 19:53:26 GMT -5
Bray Wyatt, although now mostly it's split 50-50 on him. But people began turning on him during the Jericho feud, and really turned on him when he beat Ambrose and challenged Taker.
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Post by Reflecto on Sept 18, 2015 20:21:44 GMT -5
What were the exact moments that smarks turned on the following wrestlers?
Cena- The Jericho-Angle feud showing he was kind of limited as a technical wrestler Orton- Day One- he was never particularly popular with smarks Sheamus- When people found out he was HHH's workout partner, closely correllated to him winning the WWE Title so soon Ryback- Day One due to the Goldberg chants, then accepting him around his World Title feud with CM Punk, then turning on him again after CARELESSNESS, then turning back to his side with his re-face turn. Reigns- Winning the Royal Rumble over Daniel Bryan Batista- Infinite Title Shot Cheat Code. Big Show- Returning to WWE in 2008. Del Rio- When he cashed in MITB and derailed Cena vs. Punk. Miz- Day Negative One- the moment he debuted on The Real World. HHH- The moment that the news he was dating Stephanie McMahon started. Jericho- The last return last year when he officially stayed a little too long. Paige- Joining the cast of "Total Divas" and officially proving she's not the different one who's more attainable and real and would totally date you, you guys~! Ryder- Comparing himself to Jack Swagger. Kane- Local Man.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Sept 18, 2015 20:22:33 GMT -5
I think that jericho lost some good will when he wrestled against punk or fandango at wrestlemania. is podcast and defending bill demott was the final nail in the coffin.
Also Orton had 2 eras of being hated. Post WM 25 and Post christian match.
Also ryback was hated from day one, and got some of his love back by the time that he started pairing with curtis axel
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