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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 0:13:47 GMT -5
This should be a bigger deal, shouldn't it?
I wish we hadn't all heard he was leaving, would've been a real shocker.
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Post by MAD TITAN on Oct 26, 2015 0:14:54 GMT -5
He should start jobbing more. It's what he should be doing this point of his career putting more people over, clean.
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Post by TheFadedSpade on Oct 26, 2015 0:14:50 GMT -5
Too bad it was to a boring ass hypocrite.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Oct 26, 2015 0:17:57 GMT -5
I'm not a Cena fan but what an absolute waste.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Oct 26, 2015 0:20:05 GMT -5
It was weird. Those challenge matches are usually spotty finisher fears.
Del Rio hit his secondary finish once and won. I figured for sure Cena was kicking out
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Oct 26, 2015 0:21:29 GMT -5
Who said it wasn't?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 26, 2015 0:22:48 GMT -5
He should start jobbing more. It's what he should be doing this point of his career putting more people over, clean. Gotta be careful, though... The more he does it, the more likely you get diminishing returns from it. It means more because he NEVER does it.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Oct 26, 2015 0:25:00 GMT -5
Cena should almost never lose clean.
They have a lot invested in Del Rio and this is his return match. You had to start him off with a bang. Also, Cena will be gone basically until the end of the year. Tonight was a time to make an exception and have Cena lose clean.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 0:25:37 GMT -5
It was weird. Those challenge matches are usually spotty finisher fears. Del Rio hit his secondary finish once and won. I figured for sure Cena was kicking out The announce team heavily sold that Cena was caught off guard by it being Del Rio, and the nature of the open challenge caught up to him. In that way, I think the abrupt finish sort of worked, at least better than the usual 15 minute spotfest Cena has been doing recently would have. I do wonder whether Cena wanted to do a quick match and move on to his time off/project, or if they're kind of pissed at Cena for ditching on them during football season and had him lose unceremoniously (a la Hogan/Yokozuna at King of the Ring '93), or if it was a concession to Del Rio for his being let go under dubious circumstances, etc. It's an interesting situation I wouldn't mind hearing some newz about, even if it's not accurate I'd like some food for thought.
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Post by MAD TITAN on Oct 26, 2015 0:25:58 GMT -5
He should start jobbing more. It's what he should be doing this point of his career putting more people over, clean. Gotta be careful, though... The more he does it, the more likely you get diminishing returns from it. It means more because he NEVER does it. he can job the next 10 matches and it wouldn't effect his position... at all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 0:27:06 GMT -5
He should start jobbing more. It's what he should be doing this point of his career putting more people over, clean. Gotta be careful, though... The more he does it, the more likely you get diminishing returns from it. It means more because he NEVER does it. Yeah. Look at Chris Jericho. He's all about losing, and it's turned around on him so people never care when he does, and when he does win people are like "he lost to Jericho? Buried." Losing clean a few times a year is pretty good at this point. He lost clean to Owens earlier this year, though negating it by winning 2 rematches was a mistake, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 0:28:34 GMT -5
Just doesn't seem like it, since everyone knew he was leaving and figured he'd be losing tonight. He lost in relatively anti-climatic fashion and it didn't seem like a big deal on here.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 26, 2015 0:31:10 GMT -5
Gotta be careful, though... The more he does it, the more likely you get diminishing returns from it. It means more because he NEVER does it. he can job the next 10 matches and it wouldn't effect his position... at all. It wouldn't affect him much, yeah, but it would do less for the guys that beat him... "Oh, so you beat Cena clean? That's great, so did nine guys before you." As usual, it's about the follow-up, which is where things usually go wrong unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 0:39:53 GMT -5
The main thing I took from it is I think he should've tapped. Would've been a more memorable, less what-the-hell ending, and it'd be a good way to both write him out and provide him with a good story when he comes back, him stepping away due to now doubting himself then coming back refocused.
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Post by warriorthug4edge on Oct 26, 2015 0:45:28 GMT -5
The main thing I took from it is I think he should've tapped. Would've been a more memorable, less what-the-hell ending, and it'd be a good way to both write him out and provide him with a good story when he comes back, him stepping away due to now doubting himself then coming back refocused. Thought they may go with a "Cena refused to tap in the armbar, so Del Rio broke it" to write him off...
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Post by "Mr Wonderdick" Dick Dastardly on Oct 26, 2015 0:55:30 GMT -5
The main thing I took from it is I think he should've tapped. Would've been a more memorable, less what-the-hell ending, and it'd be a good way to both write him out and provide him with a good story when he comes back, him stepping away due to now doubting himself then coming back refocused. Thought they may go with a "Cena refused to tap in the armbar, so Del Rio broke it" to write him off... The thing is, I don't think they want Del Rio to be a heel. If he was meant to be a heel, they probably would've went with that route.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Oct 26, 2015 1:04:35 GMT -5
Yeah, Cena's loses should be rare but meaningful. If he loses all the time then there's no effects to winning against him.
Del Rio was not the guy to beat Cena clean. He's already a multi-time champion and one of the most pushed-down-our-throats wrestlers in the past decade. This is the opposite of what the loss to Owens was.
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Post by Lancers on Oct 26, 2015 1:18:07 GMT -5
"You're leaving me to do some reality show that isn't 'Total Divas'? That's it! You lose clean in under ten minutes to Mexican Sheamus."
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Oct 26, 2015 1:22:17 GMT -5
Gotta be careful, though... The more he does it, the more likely you get diminishing returns from it. It means more because he NEVER does it. he can job the next 10 matches and it wouldn't effect his position... at all. Not his position - think he meant that the WowWhatThef***ness of Cena jobbing disappears if it happens too often. It's like a four-leaved clover, it stops being neat if you find a field full of them. EDIT: Ooops, Excellence of Execution clarified what he meant already, that's what I get for not refreshing the page before posting haha
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Post by Professor Chaos on Oct 26, 2015 1:25:55 GMT -5
Can't wait for that impending Sheamus-Del Rio world title program
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